New no headgear nasal mask....Bleep/DreamPort...not a pillow and not a cushion

[palerider]

Pugsy - Hey I just noticed that in the post title you have called the DreamPort a “nasal pillow” mask. Bother Lefty Lanky and the owner have been pretty adamant it’s not a pillow mask at all. Wasn’t sure if that was throwing some people off with the title. Anyway, thought I’d share that...

Hear back from Jason yet on a demo mask? Eagerly awaiting your feedback.

How to you better describe it? The mask uses a pillow-like interface to the nose.

We need something to compare it with.

But the fact is NOTHING GOES IN THE NOSE, therefore it can’t be a Pillow Mask. Hybrid would be better, as it means something different at least.

NEITHER DOES ANYTHING ON A PILLOW MASK.

If you want "in the nose" you have to go to a nasal PRONG mask:

[Mark55]

It just seems to me like having adhesive on your nose every night would result in clogged pores(pimples), and/or sores after a period of time. I'm assuming it's 'sticky' enough to not pull off easily.

It will be interesting to hear what folks think of it after it gets into full production, and hits the supply channels.

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Nope,....never used one before, since I don't really have any issues with my nose pores, or very oily skin. I have gotten a small pimple or two on occasion though when using nasal strips for too long of a run without a break.That's what made me wonder about having adhesive on your nose for that long every night.

Either way, it's not the end of the world.

[Pugsy]

Had a brief chat with Jason.
The hose is flexible...very flexible and there are some accessories in the plans for hose management aids....like maybe securing it so it runs upward more than outwards kind of thing.
The venting...goes downwards and you can't change it and it isn't diffused.
With straight vent vs diffused vent there's always the chance of blow back or bounce make when the vent stream hits something like an arm or the bed covers. Remains to be seen how much of an issue this might be for someone. Might depend somewhat on the pressure used...I dunno yet.

One step closer to getting my grubby little paws on it. Not concrete on my way yet but one step closer in the process. Won't say more...don't want to jinx things.

[palerider]

One step closer to getting my grubby little paws on it.

Every time you say that, I get this image

[Mark55]

[Pugsy]

Every time you say that, I get this image

You been on my porch again?

Last night...big old possum forced Rocky the cat...out of the heated cat house on my front porch. He was so big he had to back through the little door into the cat house. I saw it with my own eyes. I told Rocky he needed to kick that possum's ass. Rocky told me ...hey, did you see the size of that guy...he would whoop my ass.

Coons...they don't even bother to grab the food and run. Even if I go out and watch them...

I was a foot from this little girl when I took this picture...could have touched her. Later she brought her triplets to dine on cat food on my front porch. If no cat food was on the porch she would stand up an look in the storm door with paws on the glass.

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[Dreaming1]

Pugsy - Hey I just noticed that in the post title you have called the DreamPort a “nasal pillow” mask. Bother Lefty Lanky and the owner have been pretty adamant it’s not a pillow mask at all.

The only way I can think it really matters is in what setting to use on a Resmed machine, and "pillow" masks tend to have small openings and interface directly with the nostrils, whereas "nasal" masks tend to have a larger opening to the hose, and cover the entire nose, and FFMs have an even larger opening, and of course, cover the nose and mouth.

This affects the airflow resistance, which affects the pressure, and the machine compensates for that to get more accurate pressure delivery *at the mask*.

They can call the Dreamport an ocean liner, if they want to, but it sure *looks* like a pillow mask.

Pugsy - I think this is a pertinent question for Lefty Lanky 27 to see what he set his machine up for. I don’t think he shared that on the review, will have to go back and check.

[palerider]

Every time you say that, I get this image

You been on my porch again?

I'm not saying

He was so big he had to back through the little door into the cat house.

Was there a "beep beep beep"?

[Pugsy]

Pugsy - I think this is a pertinent question for Lefty Lanky 27 to see what he set his machine up for. I don’t think he shared that on the review, will have to go back and check.

If I remember right Jason uses a Respironics machine in his experiments and there is no mask selection option on Respironics machines.
The only machine that I know of where you choose the mask type is ResMed.

[Dreaming1]

My mask leaked like a sieve last night...and my nose feels like sh*t

[Tarheel#77]

Hi Pugsy, I'm new to PAP and was looking for a review for this Bleep mask. Have you done one? Looks very interesting, Thanks!

[realshelby]

Hi Pugsy, I'm new to PAP and was looking for a review for this Bleep mask. Have you done one? Looks very interesting, Thanks!

Maybe I can save Pugsy some typing. The Bleep/Dreamport mask is still a prototype and not for sale. There are probably only a very few of them in existence and those are used for testing and given to "interested" parties that might be able to provide positive reviews for when it becomes available. I don't think Pugsy has one yet, but we sure hope she gets one to try!

[Pugsy]

Hi Pugsy, I'm new to PAP and was looking for a review for this Bleep mask. Have you done one? Looks very interesting, Thanks!

No review yet because I haven't been able to get one to use it yet. Excited to try it though.

The Bleep/Dreamport mask is still a prototype and not for sale. There are probably only a very few of them in existence and those are used for testing and given to "interested" parties that might be able to provide positive reviews for when it becomes available. I don't think Pugsy has one yet, but we sure hope she gets one to try!

It's further along than just prototypes but not yet available for distribution for sale.
They are hoping for a general release date the last week of Jan 2019. That's the plan and hope so far...but as with any new product from a small start up company the least little problem could put a wrinkle in things.

I will be excited to give it a try. I woke up with a big bag under my right eye this morning from laying on my right cheek and the headgear straps restricting fluid dispursement in the side that was down. Bummer...left eye no bag...right eye had an ugly bag. I must have been in that position for quite some time to get that much puffiness from the fluid build up. I don't normally have that happen. Took about 4 hours for the annoying bag to fade away and yes...I was using padded strap covers. If I don't I get dents clear down my cheek. I get strap and mask marks easily...just my face and circulation I guess. I even get a "scar" from a wrinkle in the pillow case.

I did get a chance to have a chat with Jason about it and to ask him directly some questions about some concerns that I had because I knew they would be the same concerns that others would have.
Vent noise and vent hitting someone or something were probably my major concerns. I have got kinda spoiled to the P10 silence and no jet stream of cold air bouncing off hubby or something back into my face. He didn't really talk much about that part of it in his video. I think he said it might be sort of like the Swift FX in terms of venting but less. Not quite as loud and not quite as forceful though. So it sounds even more interesting to me.

Those of you brand new to cpap right now....and want the lightest mask at this point with minimal stuff on your face....get the ResMed AirFit P10 nasal pillow....very easy to adapt to for most people. Link to it in my equipment profile.
You have to get something now and the Bleep/DreamPort isn't available yet. Don't wait to start your therapy.

Hey...the good news is that it's going to be released here in the US first....I had to wait 6 months to get the Swift FX in 2010 because it went to Europe first. Annoyed me big time. I hated knowing it was out there and out of my reach.

Oh....in terms of what is it for those ResMed users who have to choose a mask type....once I get one and use it I will play with nasal vs pillow selection just to see if it makes any difference and my review will include what I find...if anything.
From my own past experience with mask selection and when I have changed mask types and forgot to change the settings....didn't amount to anything earth shatteringly different on anything that I could feel or see in terms of numbers or therapy or air delivery.
I suspect that it won't make much/if any difference whatever you choose but I will experiment with both just to make sure.
I think that will end up being a non issue.

[realshelby]

Nothing is fact until they are out there for users to try. Non-paid or affiliated reviews...can sometimes be different than introductory reviews.

But I have hope that this will be a bit success. If nothing else because I am a small business operator and know what it takes to present something like this. I hope they succeed in making a profit for their work.

Venting anywhere like a Swift FX scares me. That may be the most troublesome mask as far as venting that I have tried. I tried my Nuance Pro again last night and it woke me a few times where the vent was noisy against a cover or hitting my arm. Love the zero leaks of that mask, but after using the P10 and Bravida masks I cannot tolerate air blowing against stuff nor the noise of it.

[Pugsy]

Venting anywhere like a Swift FX scares me. That may be the most troublesome mask as far as venting that I have tried. I tried my Nuance Pro again last night and it woke me a few times where the vent was noisy against a cover or hitting my arm. Love the zero leaks of that mask, but after using the P10 and Bravida masks I cannot tolerate air blowing against stuff nor the noise of it.

When I get a chance to try the Bleep/DreamPort I will for sure try to compare its venting to not only the Swift FX non diffused venting (I think I still have one handy to try) along with the P10 and Brevida which I do have.
So I will make specific mention of those results in my review because I do know how import that aspect of cpap therapy is.
Jason didn't talk about it much and when I asked him about it he said it was because it was a non issue... and he just didn't think about it much. He also might be the type of person where venting simply isn't an issue for him one way or the other. There are people like that.