Cleaning P10 nasal mask, resmed

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Cleaning P10 nasal mask, resmed

Post by Visitor » Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:47 pm

Not sure if this trick to declog the holes of the P10 mask is posted in the right place (!). Well here goes:

I had trouble cleaning my P10 nasal mask. The noise-free mask works thanks to a super fine mesh. The problem is that it clogs and so I don't get enough oxygen in the end and breath part of what I breath out. I clean it with mildly warm soapy water regularly but found that the fine mesh holes still clogged. I adopted the radical solution of puncturing about a eight to a dozen holes in each side of an older mask with a needle, as suggested by another user, which worked fine for a while, but still I did not feel that in the end matters stayed improved and it sorts of defeats the purpose of the fine design. Recently I tried another trick. Guided by a soap deblocking solution for drains, after giving the mask yet another good clean with a toothbrush kept for that purpose and warm soapy water, I tried the following:

Mix baking soda and distilled white vinegar. Pour one cup of baking soda into a small plastic bowl and add about one-fourth cup of distilled white vinegar. When applying this (foaming) substance with a brush, after dipping the brush, add some salt to the brush surface to increase abrasion. The above makes far too much of the mixture (you only need enough to apply it to a small brush) so you only need to apply the 1/4 ratio using whatever measure suits. I found that I needed to add a bit more of the vinegar to increase liquidity. I applied this two two of my P10 masks and they work like a charm again. Very pleased with the outcome.

I am sharing this in case some of you are considering some tricks as well to lengthen the usefulness of this type of mask.

I've read about users who never clean the mask bar a rinse with plain water and who claim they have no issue, so that may be another way. I prefer to clean it with some type of soap/dishwashing liquid etc. so this little extra trick helped.

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Re: Cleaning P10 nasal mask, resmed

Post by Stom » Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:16 pm

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Mix baking soda and distilled white vinegar.
I'm really not sure why people do this. The acid and the base neutralize each other, creating water, CO2 and sodium acetate.
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Post by palerider » Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:28 pm

Visitor wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:47 pm
Mix baking soda and distilled white vinegar.
https://www.thekitchn.com/what-happens- ... gar-253035

That's really a waste of vinegar and baking soda.

The best way to clean the P10 is with *dishwashing* (not hand/bath/body) soap, hot water, and a tooth brush. Though I've heard from a reliable source that they like to use their waterpic, and blast the mesh clean.

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Post by chunkyfrog » Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:29 pm

I find that a toothbrush is next to useless to clean the mesh.
I either use a denture cleaning tablet (followed by lots of rinsing)
or BLAST it with a water pik!
The latter is more fun. --and quicker/more effective.
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Re: Cleaning P10 nasal mask, resmed

Post by Visitor » Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:42 pm

palerider wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:28 pm
Visitor wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:47 pm
Mix baking soda and distilled white vinegar.
https://www.thekitchn.com/what-happens- ... gar-253035

That's really a waste of vinegar and baking soda.

The best way to clean the P10 is with *dishwashing* (not hand/bath/body) soap, hot water, and a tooth brush. Though I've heard from a reliable source that they like to use their waterpic, and blast the mesh clean.
Did you actually read that article? It clearly states that it depends on the ratio you use it in and they mention some experiments that seem to bear that out.

My post addresses the issue of the use of soap clogging up the mask in the end. If your mask never clogs, hey your dishwashing liquid may be better than mine. It clogs it in the end and what I tried seemed to work better.
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Re: Cleaning P10 nasal mask, resmed

Post by Visitor » Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:48 pm

Stom wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:16 pm
Visitor wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:47 pm
Mix baking soda and distilled white vinegar.
I'm really not sure why people do this. The acid and the base neutralize each other, creating water, CO2 and sodium acetate.
In any proportion? I did not just write to mix it, but gave the proportions too. Happy to be corrected if you happen to know what you're talking about. Live and learn. ;)

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Post by palerider » Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:55 pm

Visitor wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:42 pm
palerider wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:28 pm
Visitor wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:47 pm
Mix baking soda and distilled white vinegar.
https://www.thekitchn.com/what-happens- ... gar-253035

That's really a waste of vinegar and baking soda.

The best way to clean the P10 is with *dishwashing* (not hand/bath/body) soap, hot water, and a tooth brush. Though I've heard from a reliable source that they like to use their waterpic, and blast the mesh clean.
Did you actually read that article? It clearly states that it depends on the ratio you use it in and they mention some experiments that seem to bear that out.

My post addresses the issue of the use of soap clogging up the mask in the end. If your mask never clogs, hey your dishwashing liquid may be better than mine. It clogs it in the end and what I tried seemed to work better.
Yes, I read the article.

All you're doing by mixing baking soda and vinegar is making less effective baking soda, or vinegar, depending on your ratio.

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Re: Cleaning P10 nasal mask, resmed

Post by Visitor » Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:56 pm

chunkyfrog wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:29 pm
I find that a toothbrush is next to useless to clean the mesh.
I either use a denture cleaning tablet (followed by lots of rinsing)
or BLAST it with a water pik!
The latter is more fun. --and quicker/more effective.
(PR, did you mean ME?)
what's a water pik? I googled it and found shower heads as well as flossers (for the brand)

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Re: Cleaning P10 nasal mask, resmed

Post by Stom » Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:59 pm

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In any proportion? I did not just write to mix it, but gave the proportions too. Happy to be corrected if you happen to know what you're talking about. Live and learn. ;)
In a sense the proportions are irrelevant. There essentially are only three outcomes after the reaction: Some baking soda left over, some acetic acid left over, or no baking soda or acetic acid left over. In every case, either one or both of the ingredients are irrelevant. If you want to wash with vinegar, just use vinegar. If you want to wash with baking soda, just use baking soda. If you want them both to cancel each other out, then just use water in the first place.

If you read the article, it doesn't really recommend mixing vinegar and baking soda: "When I asked Bolkan if the fizzing did anything, the short answer was no. "There isn't really any added cleaning power, as the difference is only noticeable on a microscopic level."
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Re: Cleaning P10 nasal mask, resmed

Post by Stom » Sun Aug 26, 2018 4:01 pm

Visitor wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:56 pm
what's a water pik? I googled it and found shower heads as well as flossers (for the brand)
Waterpik used to only be "flossers", back in the day. "Waterpik", like a tooth pic made of water.

So the discussion here is to the waterpik flossers, which can blast through gunk with their focused, pulsating stream of water made to do just that.
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Re: Cleaning P10 nasal mask, resmed

Post by Visitor » Sun Aug 26, 2018 4:02 pm

palerider wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:55 pm
Visitor wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:42 pm
palerider wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:28 pm
Visitor wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:47 pm
Mix baking soda and distilled white vinegar.
https://www.thekitchn.com/what-happens- ... gar-253035

That's really a waste of vinegar and baking soda.

The best way to clean the P10 is with *dishwashing* (not hand/bath/body) soap, hot water, and a tooth brush. Though I've heard from a reliable source that they like to use their waterpic, and blast the mesh clean.
Did you actually read that article? It clearly states that it depends on the ratio you use it in and they mention some experiments that seem to bear that out.

My post addresses the issue of the use of soap clogging up the mask in the end. If your mask never clogs, hey your dishwashing liquid may be better than mine. It clogs it in the end and what I tried seemed to work better.
Yes, I read the article.

All you're doing by mixing baking soda and vinegar is making less effective baking soda, or vinegar, depending on your ratio.
So, how does that relate to removing soap? The mixture might still be good at that. I don't see the point. For instance, the article states: "But the foam might keep your mildly acidic solution in place longer for applications like the drain or grout on your wall" I tried vinegar before with some success and this seemed to do a better job.

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Re: Cleaning P10 nasal mask, resmed

Post by Visitor » Sun Aug 26, 2018 4:04 pm

Stom wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:59 pm
Visitor wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:48 pm
In any proportion? I did not just write to mix it, but gave the proportions too. Happy to be corrected if you happen to know what you're talking about. Live and learn. ;)
In a sense the proportions are irrelevant. There essentially are only three outcomes after the reaction: Some baking soda left over, some acetic acid left over, or no baking soda or acetic acid left over. In every case, either one or both of the ingredients are irrelevant. If you want to wash with vinegar, just use vinegar. If you want to wash with baking soda, just use baking soda. If you want them both to cancel each other out, then just use water in the first place.

If you read the article, it doesn't really recommend mixing vinegar and baking soda: "When I asked Bolkan if the fizzing did anything, the short answer was no. "There isn't really any added cleaning power, as the difference is only noticeable on a microscopic level."
Bolkan gives one opinion. A second is given right after "But the foam might keep your mildly acidic solution in place longer for applications like the drain or grout on your wall"

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Re: Cleaning P10 nasal mask, resmed

Post by Stom » Sun Aug 26, 2018 4:06 pm

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Sun Aug 26, 2018 4:04 pm
Bolkan gives one opinion. A second is given right after "But the foam might keep your mildly acidic solution in place longer for applications like the drain or grout on your wall"
The second isn't even an opinion. It is speculation. And it's irrelevant to your application since you can just leave the mask vent soaking in a bowl vinegar. It's not like a wall where you need the mixture to cling longer.
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Re: Cleaning P10 nasal mask, resmed

Post by chunkyfrog » Sun Aug 26, 2018 4:16 pm

No vinegar or minty smell--my miniature pressure washer (water pic) is very effective.
I bought it expressly for cleaning the p10 mesh.

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Re: Cleaning P10 nasal mask, resmed

Post by Stom » Sun Aug 26, 2018 4:32 pm

chunkyfrog wrote:
Sun Aug 26, 2018 4:16 pm
No vinegar or minty smell--my miniature pressure washer (water pic) is very effective.
I bought it expressly for cleaning the p10 mesh.
I wonder if you can use a plastic box with a clear and holes on the side for access lid like a bead blasting chamber, so you can use the pik without getting splashback all over the place?
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