can too high of pressure prevent treatment?

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can too high of pressure prevent treatment?

Post by zackds » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:20 pm

ive been on cpap for about 3 weeks and ive had about 3 nights/days where ive felt alive like i havent in a long time.
ive been messing around with pressures all throughout and right now im at 16 low 20 high
im trying to remember where i was when i felt good and i think it was probably somewhere around 10
my question is just as my title states, can too high of pressure not solve apnea events?
if so, what is the mechanism behind this?
tonight im going to try pressure at 10 again to see if it helps

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Re: can too high of pressure prevent treatment?

Post by Doug_Nightmare » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:34 pm

CPAP pressure stents the airway open against collapse of the upper airway anatomy. A listed complication is aerophagia ‘swallowing’ air into the stomach and caused by too high CPAP pressure.
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Re: can too high of pressure prevent treatment?

Post by ChicagoGranny » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:48 pm

zackds wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:20 pm
right now im at 16 low 20 high
Gosh, where did you come up with that? Are you just dial wingin'? You need to be making changes rationally, not just throwing up darts on the board.

You reported feeling pretty good and sleeping better when your minimum was at 7.5. How and why did you get to minimum 16?

My suggestion is to go back to min 7.5/max 14.0. Then, the next day, post in this thread a chart and tell us how you felt. You need to be making changes with guidance from some experienced members here. Here is the thread where you seemed to be doing reasonably well -
zackds wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:37 am
hey last night i had the pressure at 7.5-14
i didnt wake up as much as i have been
and my machine seems to have responded to events
because i was able to get longer periods of sleep i guess
any thoughts?

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Re: can too high of pressure prevent treatment?

Post by zackds » Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:28 pm

ChicagoGranny wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:48 pm
zackds wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:20 pm
right now im at 16 low 20 high
Gosh, where did you come up with that? Are you just dial wingin'? You need to be making changes rationally, not just throwing up darts on the board.

You reported feeling pretty good and sleeping better when your minimum was at 7.5. How and why did you get to minimum 16?

My suggestion is to go back to min 7.5/max 14.0. Then, the next day, post in this thread a chart and tell us how you felt. You need to be making changes with guidance from some experienced members here. Here is the thread where you seemed to be doing reasonably well -
zackds wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:37 am
hey last night i had the pressure at 7.5-14
i didnt wake up as much as i have been
and my machine seems to have responded to events
because i was able to get longer periods of sleep i guess
any thoughts?

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haha i think i just got excited when i started feeling better
i felt there was room for improvement and when i raised the pressure
i didnt see harm in it because more pressure would just hold the airway open better i thought
im not sure the reason why, but i remember hearing someone say more pressure could
make it so treatment doesnt work for people who need only a certain amount of pressure

i can lower the pressure for sure tonight to see how i feel
unfortunately i cant post my sleepyhead data because my new
sd adapter hasnt come yet but i can when it does

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Re: can too high of pressure prevent treatment?

Post by ChicagoGranny » Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:18 pm

zackds wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:28 pm
haha i think i just got excited
You're just like Gramps. He thinks if the recipe calls for two cloves of garlic, the whole bulb will be even better.
zackds wrote:
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Re: can too high of pressure prevent treatment?

Post by palerider » Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:54 pm

ChicagoGranny wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:18 pm
zackds wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:28 pm
haha i think i just got excited
You're just like Gramps. He thinks if the recipe calls for two cloves of garlic, the whole bulb will be even better.
And, he's RIGHT!

Gramps would probably love toum.

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Re: can too high of pressure prevent treatment?

Post by poppi2 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:42 pm

zackds wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:28 pm
….. but i remember hearing someone say more pressure could make it so treatment doesnt work for people who need only a certain amount of pressure
Don't forget that this is the Internet. Even on this forum, there are 3 or 2 people who don't know what the hell they are talking about. It takes a lot of reading to learn which characters know, and which don't. Good luck. Earl

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Re: can too high of pressure prevent treatment?

Post by palerider » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:42 pm

zackds wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:20 pm
my question is just as my title states, can too high of pressure not solve apnea events?
No, too high a pressure won't cause more *obstructive* events.

In a few people it can cause air swallowing/bloating, and in a few people it can cause central apneas.

But too much pressure isn't going to allow your airway to close up.

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Re: can too high of pressure prevent treatment?

Post by zonker » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:28 pm

poppi2 wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:42 pm
zackds wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:28 pm
….. but i remember hearing someone say more pressure could make it so treatment doesnt work for people who need only a certain amount of pressure
Don't forget that this is the Internet. Even on this forum, there are 3 or 2 people who don't know what the hell they are talking about. It takes a lot of reading to learn which characters know, and which don't. Good luck. Earl
ONLY 3 or 2?!?!?!?

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Re: can too high of pressure prevent treatment?

Post by palerider » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:34 pm

zonker wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:28 pm
poppi2 wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:42 pm
zackds wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:28 pm
….. but i remember hearing someone say more pressure could make it so treatment doesnt work for people who need only a certain amount of pressure
Don't forget that this is the Internet. Even on this forum, there are 3 or 2 people who don't know what the hell they are talking about. It takes a lot of reading to learn which characters know, and which don't. Good luck. Earl
ONLY 3 or 2?!?!?!?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Well, that have no idea how ignorant they are and insist on blabbing nonsense. :lol:

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Re: can too high of pressure prevent treatment?

Post by ChicagoGranny » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:45 am

ONLY 3 or 2?!?!?!?
They are reproducing. Better take another census.

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Re: can too high of pressure prevent treatment?

Post by zackds » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:27 am

palerider wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:42 pm
zackds wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:20 pm
my question is just as my title states, can too high of pressure not solve apnea events?
No, too high a pressure won't cause more *obstructive* events.

In a few people it can cause air swallowing/bloating, and in a few people it can cause central apneas.

But too much pressure isn't going to allow your airway to close up.
i was definitely getting air swallowing
but dang, i was hoping thats why i was waking up more
i wish i could look at my sleepyhead data
im not even sure if i have apnea anymore
unless they were centrals i was having

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Re: can too high of pressure prevent treatment?

Post by zackds » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:34 am

ChicagoGranny wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:18 pm
zackds wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:28 pm
haha i think i just got excited
You're just like Gramps. He thinks if the recipe calls for two cloves of garlic, the whole bulb will be even better.
zackds wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:28 pm
my new
sd adapter
Are you sure you need an adapter? Most laptops and desktops have a little slot for SD cards. If you don't see it, here is another way to check - https://itstillworks.com/check-pc-sd-slot-8404707.html
yea i dont have a slot
maybe if i put garlic in there...

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Re: can too high of pressure prevent treatment?

Post by palerider » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:45 am

zackds wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:27 am
i wish i could look at my sleepyhead data
And, why can't you?

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Re: can too high of pressure prevent treatment?

Post by zackds » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:50 am

palerider wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:45 am
zackds wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:27 am
i wish i could look at my sleepyhead data
And, why can't you?
the computer i was using that had an sd slot i no longer have here
im waiting on my sd adapter for this computer

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