The algorithms are proprietary (and evolving) but if you find any good information regarding insights or comparisons, please post links.
Here is a comparative study that clearly shows the superiority of ResMed AirSense over Respironics System One in dealing with a similated patient with a high pressure need while using open settings. I think this reinforces the importance of setting a strong minimum pressure, especially when using Respironics.
http://openres.ersjournals.com/content/1/1/00031-2015
Differences in APAP algorithms
Differences in APAP algorithms
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Re: Differences in APAP algorithms
I've seen this before and a medical Writer was 'Funded' by Resmed I wonder how much more input Resmed had to this reportTedVPAP wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 11:25 amThe algorithms are proprietary (and evolving) but if you find any good information regarding insights or comparisons, please post links.
Here is a comparative study that clearly shows the superiority of ResMed AirSense over Respironics System One in dealing with a similated patient with a high pressure need while using open settings. I think this reinforces the importance of setting a strong minimum pressure, especially when using Respironics.
http://openres.ersjournals.com/content/1/1/00031-2015
"Acknowledgements
The authors wish to thank Miguel Angel Rodriguez (University of Barcelona, Barcelona, Spain) for his technical support in execution of the tests and Nicola Ryan, an independent medical writer funded by ResMed, for her assistance in preparing the manuscript."
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Re: Differences in APAP algorithms
"forgive him, he's from barcelona."Jas_williams wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 12:15 pmI've seen this before and a medical Writer was 'Funded' by Resmed I wonder how much more input Resmed had to this reportTedVPAP wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 11:25 amThe algorithms are proprietary (and evolving) but if you find any good information regarding insights or comparisons, please post links.
Here is a comparative study that clearly shows the superiority of ResMed AirSense over Respironics System One in dealing with a similated patient with a high pressure need while using open settings. I think this reinforces the importance of setting a strong minimum pressure, especially when using Respironics.
http://openres.ersjournals.com/content/1/1/00031-2015
"Acknowledgements
The authors wish to thank Miguel Angel Rodriguez (University of Barcelona, Barcelona, Spain) for his technical support in execution of the tests and Nicola Ryan, an independent medical writer funded by ResMed, for her assistance in preparing the manuscript."
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Re: Differences in APAP algorithms
Zero.Jas_williams wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 12:15 pmI've seen this before and a medical Writer was 'Funded' by Resmed I wonder how much more input Resmed had to this report
The study and the results are fairly straightforward. No need to suspect anything else. Besides, it is well know by users of ResMed and Respironics machines that the ResMed algorithm is more aggressive.ResMed provided financial support to carry out the study but did not intervene in the design or performance of the tests, or in the data analysis. ResMed also funded the assistance of a medical writer in preparing the manuscript.
Re: Differences in APAP algorithms
If I ever own a sleep-disordered breathing robot who wants to run its APAP wide open, I'll have it read that.
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Re: Differences in APAP algorithms
My thoughts also.ChicagoGranny wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 12:23 pmThe study and the results are fairly straightforward. No need to suspect anything else. Besides, it is well know by users of ResMed and Respironics machines that the ResMed algorithm is more aggressive.
I have personally used both a ResMed apap and a Respironics apap...so first hand experience.
With Respironics I had to use minimum of 10 cm to do the same job that the ResMed does with a minimum of 7 and I am using EPR at 3 to boot.
I had no problem with the Respironics though. Slept quite well with it and only reason I changed was because I just want to try ResMed to see what all the hooplah was about.
It's funny though...I still get the same higher pressure needs in REM sleep (where my OSA always has needed more pressure) and where it goes to is about the same with both brands. So while I can get by with a lower minimum...it still needs to sometimes go to 15 to 18 but it just gets there faster and stays there for the same length of time.
The only real problem I can see with having to use a higher minimum is the potential for aerophagia related issues.
I think ResMed's way of doing things is going to maybe offer more relief for those people.
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Re: Differences in APAP algorithms
Where are the comments from the other medical Writers of the tested APAP's NOT 'Funded' by Resmed? I don't see it. Tests, can be made to appear to show any results you want them too, about anything... Jim
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Re: Differences in APAP algorithms
---and yet it remains that the first satisfactory machine
one uses--often becomes their preferred machine.
Auto makers benefit by family continuity, and Apple has taken
advantage of this phenomenon for decades,
by supplying free or discounted computers to schools.
one uses--often becomes their preferred machine.
Auto makers benefit by family continuity, and Apple has taken
advantage of this phenomenon for decades,
by supplying free or discounted computers to schools.
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