Resmed S10 vs S9

[yankees789]

As far as the for her algorithm according to Resmed:the maximum pressure due to a closed airway apnea is 12 cm H2O. The therapy pressure still increases above 12 cm H2O if it is driven by either continued snoring or flow limitation.
As far as the standard or soft response :ResMed’s AutoSet algorithm now allows for additional customisation of therapy with the new AutoSet Response mode, which offers all the benefits of the enhanced AutoSet algorithm with gentler pressure increases for additional comfort.

For patients who are sensitive to faster changes in pressure during therapy, AutoSet Response can be set to either Standard or Soft. If set to soft, patients will receive gentler pressure rises during therapy.according to Resmed.
Hope this helps.

[yankees789]

As far as the for her algorithm according to Resmed:the maximum pressure due to a closed airway apnea is 12 cm H2O. The therapy pressure still increases above 12 cm H2O if it is driven by either continued snoring or flow limitation.
As far as the standard or soft response :ResMed’s AutoSet algorithm now allows for additional customisation of therapy with the new AutoSet Response mode, which offers all the benefits of the enhanced AutoSet algorithm with gentler pressure increases for additional comfort.

For patients who are sensitive to faster changes in pressure during therapy, AutoSet Response can be set to either Standard or Soft. If set to soft, patients will receive gentler pressure rises during therapy.according to Resmed.
Hope this helps.

[yankees789]

As far as the for her algorithm according to Resmed:the maximum pressure due to a closed airway apnea is 12 cm H2O. The therapy pressure still increases above 12 cm H2O if it is driven by either continued snoring or flow limitation.
As far as the standard or soft response :ResMed’s AutoSet algorithm now allows for additional customisation of therapy with the new AutoSet Response mode, which offers all the benefits of the enhanced AutoSet algorithm with gentler pressure increases for additional comfort.

For patients who are sensitive to faster changes in pressure during therapy, AutoSet Response can be set to either Standard or Soft. If set to soft, patients will receive gentler pressure rises during therapy.according to Resmed.
Hope this helps.

[Goofproof]

As far as the for her algorithm according to Resmed:the maximum pressure due to a closed airway apnea is 12 cm H2O. The therapy pressure still increases above 12 cm H2O if it is driven by either continued snoring or flow limitation.
As far as the standard or soft response :ResMed’s AutoSet algorithm now allows for additional customisation of therapy with the new AutoSet Response mode, which offers all the benefits of the enhanced AutoSet algorithm with gentler pressure increases for additional comfort.

For patients who are sensitive to faster changes in pressure during therapy, AutoSet Response can be set to either Standard or Soft. If set to soft, patients will receive gentler pressure rises during therapy.according to Resmed.
Hope this helps.

Three identical posts in 16 minutes, Which one is better? Jim

[yankees789]

Sorry about the duplications.

[feeling_better]

Hello All, thank you for all the info you have already provided to me in just one day! Wow!! What a helpful community!!!

[Pugsy]

What, specifically, are the differences between the two? When in the "for her" mode, is the upper limit of pressure modified in any way? Does the upper limit change if the "soft" response is selected when using the normal autoset? If so, how do those changes manifest themselves in either case?

The for Her algorithm mode is a totally different algorithm in terms of response to sleep apnea events than the regular apap mode algorithm.
Read about it in the manual.
https://sleep.tnet.com/home/files/resme ... -guide.pdf

The "soft" thing...I haven't played with at all. Don't know what it does but it's separate from the 2 algorithms.

Upper limits aren't changed. I am using the for Her apap mode right now after trying the regular mode for a few days when I got the machine last Sept.
It will go above 12 cm if it needs to because of snores and FLs. So it will respond and react to OAs that happen above 12 cm if snores and FLs are also present. Not a big deal really. I know of only one person where this algorithm didn't work well for OA prevention and that was easily remedied by changing over to the regular algorithm.

One thing the for Her algorithm does is reset the minimum pressure if 2 OAs occur within a short period of time so the rest of the night (until the machine is turned off the machine won't drop down to the original minimum pressure. I see it happen fairly often.
You can see it here. 2 little OAs at 5:20 caused the machine to change the minimum and it didn't go down to 7 and instead looks like it might be around 9.
This is also explained in the manual.

[feeling_better]

I think Den covered all except number 4 so I will try that one.

I have used both the S9 and now have an AirSense 10....no real difference except that if you use the humidifier the humidity settings are a bit different and I have found that it seems to use more water than the S9 did at very similar settings.
https://www.resmed.com/us/dam/documents ... sa_eng.pdf

There are some minor additions to the settings menu that you didn't have with the S9 like the auto ramp thing but the basic guts of how the machine goes about doing its job didn't change.

I actually have the for Her AutoSet model and I am currently using the special apap mode for Her (also tried the regular apap mode) and I kinda like it.
I am also using a heated hose which I also really like especially this time of year with my cold bedroom.

Pugsy, regarding the water usage. For me S10 at humidity setting 1 seem to use the same amount of water as S9 at 2-3. Lasts about 3 nights. Just my usage data...

[JimW159]

BTW, my unit is the usual black color. The dummy the doc showed me was a nice white/cream color. Do they come in different colors? Not important.

If the dummy shown to you had little styleized flowers on it, it was the For Her version; if no flowers and is very shiny, it may be an AirCurve model (BiPAP).
See for example: https://red-dot-21.com/p/design-product ... rcurve-10/
AFAIK, there are no other variants in terms of outward appearance - there are, however, several models within each style that have functional and performance differences.

[SewTired]

Compared to the standard algorithm, the For Her algorithm starts an upward trend earlier, but at a slower rate. Then it remains at the higher pressure a little longer, and drops at a slower rate. First, this reduces the chances of you waking up from pressure changes. Second, the belief is that by starting pressure earlier, you tend to need less pressure overall to eliminate events. Several people have reported that the For Her algorithm is similar to the Resmed S8 standard algorithm.

[JimW159]

Some time ago I read a white paper from ResMed outlining the research and conclusions that led to the For Her xPAPs. At the time I didn't pay a lot of attention to it and only after many users began to posit the benefit potential for all users that I went back and re-read it. While some may disagree with the underlying premise presented, I suspect most will recognize the validity of the conclusions. Within the paper is a section headed: AutoSet For Her Algorithm. It outlines the construction and behavior of the event responses within the algorithm.
https://www.resmed.com/us/dam/documents ... orithm.pdf

[JeffL]

Your probably know this by now, but if I recall, the hose released from the S9 by turning it. To remove the hose from the S10, you squeeze the top and bottom of the connector, and pull it straight back.

[JimW159]

AirSense 10 AutoSet with Humidifier [I see that you can use this without the humidifier too, by sealing that opening off with a plastic cap --- which is not covered by medicare and costs about $25 or so . That is an ideal candidate for somebody to 3d print it in small quantities and sell for $5...

An even cheaper option is to keep the tub inserted and just turn the humidifier off - it's free, and you always have the humidifier with you if the need arrises.