xxyzx and Morbius Spam Buttons Removed

[TASmart]

Welcome to a pretty impressive group pugsy. The only issue is the et al means others, but in this case, more likely means every poster who ever posts. Anyway, I am awed to be in the same company as you.

[Pugsy]

Welcome to a pretty impressive group pugsy. The only issue is the et al means others, but in this case, more likely means every poster who ever posts. Anyway, I am awed to be in the same company as you.

I have always been there with you more than most people ever know.
I hate seeing people getting picked on for no reason.

OH...in case anyone is wondering what started this war between me and the alphabet child/baby.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=156993&start=0&st=0 ... w#p1201476
He got mean and nasty to a newbie and it's one thing for the forum veterans to be duking it out with him but it's another thing to go picking on a newbie. I see red when people do that. He was being a bully and I called him out on it. He didn't like what I said but I don't really care. I knew what his response would be. I will take a lot of crap but I won't let newbies be mistreated. That is NOT what this forum is about.

Now I know a lot of you are frustrated with the poster in that thread...but she's a newbie and she is trying and that's all it takes for me to try to help someone even if there are extra challenges involved. Picking on a newbie will get my dander up quicker than attacking me directly.
If you can't say something positive or helpful...just don't say anything. Calling her a moron or stupid isn't the way we treat newbies around here.

[LSAT]

Unregistered guests should not be able to post...

You are brilliant. You have hit the nail right on the head. The problems in this forum come from Registered Guests who just do NOT know how to behave unless they are directly supervised, ie. moderated. Yet you want to point the finger elsewhere, that makes you part of the problem.

So the "regulars" cause this mess, scream for moderation hoping they can become a paid moderator. But I think Johnny is wise to this behavior. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the "regulars" were part of the recent Spam Attack and even this xxx mess, we see it was the "regulars" from years gone by doing the deleting of things they don't agree with and we know that most of the "regulars" do NOT have a Spam Button any longer.

Are we starting to see a pattern here?

lsat You are brilliant.

So one of your fine notso upstanding "Registered Members" deleted Pugsy's post from this thread today, even you must be able to understand that "I" the fine upstanding "Unregistered Guest" cannot and would not do that.

To me that just means that another from your fine community has created yet another ID for this evil Duty.

So knowing that even you should be able to connect the dots and understand who it is that causes ALL of the chaos on this forum.

So since removing this spam button is not working. I would say that they either need to be banned or the posting threshold needs to be moved up to 1000 or both.

You can under your real registered name.....(Come out of the closet).....Quit spending so much time in the garden..the plants are affecting you. Tenga un buen día

[Arlene1963]

Several posts have been removed from this thread "Why is an AHI below 5.0 considered normal?" including one of mine. Why?

[LSAT]

Correction, the post was removed from the Why is an AHI below 5.0 considered normal? thread, not this one.

Why worry? Yours is still there.....

[Morbius]

Correction, the post was removed from the Why is an AHI below 5.0 considered normal? thread, not this one.

Why worry? Yours is still there.....

I believe Arlene is talking about this one:

I searched for an hour on the internet and the forum and have not found any info on sleep studies of normal healthy persons. What is truly normal? My guess is that everyone, to varying degrees, stops breathing at some point in their sleep.

I'm interested in this information as well. This morning I went onto Google Scholar and found a study that was published in 2015 that deals with the prevalence of sleep disordered breathing in the normal population, not based on folks sent to a sleep lab and suspected of having OSA, in other words, just the general population.

"Between Sept 1, 2009, and June 30, 2013, we did a population-based study (HypnoLaus) in Lausanne, Switzerland. We invited a cohort of 3043 consecutive participants of the CoLaus/PsyCoLaus study to take part. Polysomnography data from 2121 people were included in the final analysis. 1024 (48%) participants were men, with a median age of 57 years (IQR 49–68, range 40–85) and mean body-mass index (BMI) of 25·6 kg/m2

The median apnoea-hypopnoea index was 6·9 events per h (IQR 2·7–14·1) in women and 14·9 per h (7·2–27·1) in men. The prevalence of moderate-to-severe sleep-disordered breathing (≥15 events per h) was 23·4% (95% CI 20·9–26·0) in women and 49·7% (46·6–52·8) in men."

Note, they scored data for this study using the 2012 AASM guidelines for diagnosis.

In their conclusion they state:

"Using the most recent definitions for respiratory events, and diagnostic techniques commonly used in all modern sleep laboratories, we noted that almost every individual had some degree of sleep-disordered breathing. Moreover, an increasing number of apnoea and hypopnoea events per h was associated with augmented comorbidity. This finding reinforces the idea that sleep-disordered breathing should be considered as a disease with a continuous spectrum, rather than as a definite yes or no diagnosis. Individuals at high risk of incident sleep-disordered breathing-related complications should be identified so treatment efforts can be focused on them."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4404207/

[DreamStalker]

I think Johnny pinned this thread to the top of the list for a reason.

When/If you all figure it out, he'll probably unpin it.

Until then, I think it's a brilliant expose of an idea ... buy!

[Morbius]

I think Johnny pinned this thread to the top of the list for a reason.

I Doubt It

[Unregistered Guest]

Correction, the post was removed from the Why is an AHI below 5.0 considered normal? thread, not this one.

Why worry? Yours is still there.....

NOT worried at all. It just illustrates the real source of the problem but YOU just don't get it and that becomes clearer each time you post.

[LSAT]

Correction, the post was removed from the Why is an AHI below 5.0 considered normal? thread, not this one.

Why worry? Yours is still there.....

NOT worried at all. It just illustrates the real source of the problem but YOU just don't get it and that becomes clearer each time you post.

This is really getting entertaining...I agree...Guests are the real source of the problem. How's your garden?

[RonS]

I run a forum, using phpbb. I'm a libertarian. I allow(ed) guest posts.
It wasn't a huge forum, I have 5,000 members and 500,000 posts.
When a couple of people started fighting I did nothing and the good people left and went to facebook, leaving the trolls behind. Then they left because there was nobody left to harass.
I now get about 4 or 5 posts per day.

You decide how you want your forum/community to die.

[zoocrewphoto]

I run a forum, using phpbb. I'm a libertarian. I allow(ed) guest posts.
It wasn't a huge forum, I have 5,000 members and 500,000 posts.
When a couple of people started fighting I did nothing and the good people left and went to facebook, leaving the trolls behind. Then they left because there was nobody left to harass.
I now get about 4 or 5 posts per day.

You decide how you want your forum/community to die.

Reminds me of some email lists we are on. New people are on moderated status at first. A few moderators approve the posts to make sure that spam doesn't go through, and that the people are following the rules. If somebody does something bad or can't seem to follow the rules, then they go back on moderated status. On rare occasions, some topic will escalate, and a moderator will post a warning, but very rarely does anything have to be done. The fact is, everybody knows that there *IS* somebody who will do something if it gets too bad. Also, those email lists mostly use real names. Somebody could use a fake name if they wanted, but you tend to have more credibility if people know who you are.

Can a forum do something like a moderated status? Where posts don't go through until improved? That could be a huge improvement where somebody needing a time out would have to wait for their posts to go through. And the real bad posts would simply be blocked. Good behavior would be rewarded as polite posts would make it through, and if the bad posts stopped, moderation would stop as well.

[palerider]

Can a forum do something like a moderated status? Where posts don't go through until improved?

Yes, it's called "pre-moderation", however, it requires that the board owner actually *care* about the forum.

[zoocrewphoto]

It was pinned for a few days. It stayed at the top despite newer posts coming in below it. Stopped being pinned yesterday. I guess they figured we had all seen it by then and gotten the message.

[Grace~~~]

I believe they found that pre-moderation still has clumps of moderation in it and can be just as potent as full on moderation?