Airtouch F20

1999jacko · Post by **1999jacko** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:41 pm

Hannibal 2 wrote:It was comfortable, although I did use the medical silicone tape, so at the moment I can't tell much difference between this and the standard mask. Ironically my AHI was 2.2, exactly the same as it was the night before with the silicone cushion.
I will try tonight without the silicone tape and see how it feels and works.

That's good. Mainly interested in how it was comfort wise. Hoping it feels a little lighter on the face maybe. Keep us posted thanks.

Hannibal 2 · Post by **Hannibal 2** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:30 am

1999jacko wrote:
Hannibal 2 wrote:It was comfortable, although I did use the medical silicone tape, so at the moment I can't tell much difference between this and the standard mask. Ironically my AHI was 2.2, exactly the same as it was the night before with the silicone cushion.
I will try tonight without the silicone tape and see how it feels and works.
That's good. Mainly interested in how it was comfort wise. Hoping it feels a little lighter on the face maybe. Keep us posted thanks.

Yes it is definitely more comfortable and kinder on my face, I tried it last night without any silicone tape to protect my skin and there is no evidence of sores at present. My only concern is how long the cushion will last without additional protection, but apart from the comments and quotes on here I cannot see any reason visually why it shouldn't last as long as a standard cushion.

ChicagoGranny · Post by **ChicagoGranny** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:38 am

Hannibal 2 wrote:My only concern is how long the cushion will last without additional protection, but apart from the comments and quotes on here I cannot see any reason visually why it shouldn't last as long as a standard cushion.

Is it prone to absorb body oils and other substances that cannot be easily cleaned from the cushion?

Hannibal 2 · Post by **Hannibal 2** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:12 pm

ChicagoGranny wrote:
Hannibal 2 wrote:My only concern is how long the cushion will last without additional protection, but apart from the comments and quotes on here I cannot see any reason visually why it shouldn't last as long as a standard cushion.
Is it prone to absorb body oils and other substances that cannot be easily cleaned from the cushion?

A little early to comment, it looks as though it would be easy to clean but it's obviously more porous than silicone, time will tell of course.

JimW159 · Post by **JimW159** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:18 pm

Hannibal 2 wrote:Not as promising a start as I'd hoped for.
I had an email from ResMed yesterday inviting me to put my name down for the trials - not coming to UK until later this year.

http://myosa.resmed.com/airtouch-trial/

This link very clearly shows the differences in marketing philosophy between ResMed UK and ResMed USA:
1) The free trial offer obviously shows the UK target as the consumer, not a DME or medical professional as in the USA.
2) The offer of a stimulus (the free S+) probably is of interest only to an end-user - I doubt any DME or doc would want to have a bunch of them hanging around
3) ResMed's support of sleep clinics (ResMed Centre for Healthy Sleep) that provide educational and assessment services to end-users as well a clinicians.

Hang Fire · Post by **Hang Fire** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:38 pm

JimW159 wrote:This link very clearly shows the differences in marketing philosophy between ResMed UK and ResMed USA:

No, it shows the difference in regulations. A DME license is not needed in the UK to sell equipment to a patient.

Hannibal 2 · Post by **Hannibal 2** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:47 pm

Hang Fire wrote:
JimW159 wrote:This link very clearly shows the differences in marketing philosophy between ResMed UK and ResMed USA:
No, it shows the difference in regulations. A DME license is not needed in the UK to sell equipment to a patient.

The UK also operates differently to the USA in respect of medical care, as we have a national health service (NHS) and it is not mandatory to have private medical insurance in order to get Hospital appointments and treatment.
However, the service can vary from poor to excellent depending on the Hospital and in many cases the CPAP equipment supplied is bottom end. We have the freedom to buy equipment direct from the supplier if we have a letter from the hospital, and we can still be a Hospital outpatient.

NadiaK · Post by **NadiaK** » Mon Jul 03, 2017 5:05 pm

For those that have tried the mask, did you find that it put pressure on the bridge of your nose? I had that issue with the Airfit F20. The pressure on the bridge of my nose ended up giving me headaches when I woke up. Wondering if it would be better with the Airtouch?

Okie bipap · Post by **Okie bipap** » Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:22 pm

I found it to be much more comfortable than the regular F20 cushion, but I had trouble getting a good seal at my pressure.

Hannibal 2 · Post by **Hannibal 2** » Tue Jul 04, 2017 1:08 am

NadiaK wrote:For those that have tried the mask, did you find that it put pressure on the bridge of your nose? I had that issue with the Airfit F20. The pressure on the bridge of my nose ended up giving me headaches when I woke up. Wondering if it would be better with the Airtouch?

I was getting pressure/leak sores on my nose and face with the original F20, I wasn't getting this initially with the Touch cushion but because I found it more leaky I tightened the straps to compensate, now the sores have returned, especially to my nose. I started using silicon tape on the bridge of my nose again to protect it, that does the trick. Overall I couldn't recommend the Touch over the standard cushion.

Hannibal 2 · Post by **Hannibal 2** » Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:20 am

Okie bipap wrote:I found it to be much more comfortable than the regular F20 cushion, but I had trouble getting a good seal at my pressure.

I found it a little more comfortable at first than the regular F20, but now I've tightened the straps to compensate for the leaks there's not much difference.

MssDarla · Post by **MssDarla** » Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:30 am

its what I use, I have been looking at prices for extra cushions because I really like it, easy on and off, nothing on my forehead which I love, I can still watch tv and fall asleep in comfort, but the cushions cost $54 and I wont be using ins, uggg

Im am new to this but is it common for cushions to turn yellow? Im sorry confused this with Air fit

Julie · Post by **Julie** » Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:15 am

Over time, everything wears out.

Hannibal 2 · Post by **Hannibal 2** » Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:54 am

MssDarla wrote:its what I use, I have been looking at prices for extra cushions because I really like it, easy on and off, nothing on my forehead which I love, I can still watch tv and fall asleep in comfort, but the cushions cost $54 and I wont be using ins, uggg

Im am new to this but is it common for cushions to turn yellow? Im sorry confused this with Air fit

Are you talking about silicon cushions or the new memory foam cushion (AirTouch)? We're comparing the two types in this thread.

jduluoz92 · Post by **jduluoz92** » Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:54 am

I started with APAP about 3 weeks ago. Started with the AirTouch. Loved it at first. The machine was set at 4-20, so I spent the first 10 days tinkering with pressure. As I got that dialed in, I began to notice an increase in leaks. After four straight days with serious leak issues, went to the silicone cushion. Leaks disappeared.

I love the feel of the AirTouch memory foam, but it leaks entirely too much at higher pressure.

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