Has anybody else noticed the following problem in Encore Pro:
If you look at the indices (AHI, snore etc) on the long term trend page (I think it is page 3) of the detailed report, the numeric values do not agree with the nightly detail report (page 4, etc). As far as I can tell the numbers are rounded to an integer value. For example if I do a one night download, the nightly details might report an AHI 0f 0.1, but the long term trend report will report a value of 1.0. The plot also shows a level of one.
In a multi-night download it seems as though the the long term page is averaging the integer values. I have tried, without success, to reconcile the numbers on the long term plots with those reported on the daily reports. But then, I'm not very good at math
derek
Bug in Encore Pro???
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Bug in Encore Pro???
I've noticed the same thing. It appears to round (nearest int) if I look at it daily. I'll pay more attention and see if I can figure out whats going on over multiple days.
BTW, AHI = 0.1? Are you serious? I was joyus at finally getting it down to 4.8 last night...
jjb
BTW, AHI = 0.1? Are you serious? I was joyus at finally getting it down to 4.8 last night...
jjb
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RG,
At least you don't have to worry about derek using the other phrase you like to use "I'm not a doctor". If he does then we will really know we have an imposter on our hands.
Sorry, to be picking on you derek. If you haven't noticed there is a lot of that going on around here.
(so as to not cause derek any more grief, I'll clarify that derek is not a medical doctor, he has a PHD, that's why he's "not very good at math" )... OK that enough picking on derek for one post!
At least you don't have to worry about derek using the other phrase you like to use "I'm not a doctor". If he does then we will really know we have an imposter on our hands.
Sorry, to be picking on you derek. If you haven't noticed there is a lot of that going on around here.
(so as to not cause derek any more grief, I'll clarify that derek is not a medical doctor, he has a PHD, that's why he's "not very good at math" )... OK that enough picking on derek for one post!
Sincerely,
wading thru the muck of the sleep study/DME/Insurance money pit!
wading thru the muck of the sleep study/DME/Insurance money pit!
Plagiarism
Plagiarism is a very serious thing in the sleep apnea community-- especially in sleep event math.
You'll never see me borrowing other people's words!
You'll never see me borrowing other people's words!
jjb,
With APAP my AI = 0, my HI = 0.3 - 1.1 but the HI is significantly higher without. There is absolutely no doubt that the xPAP treatment has had a tremendous effect on the way I feel, and my energy level throughout the day. The hypops were definitely affecting my sleep. That's why I intend to stick with APAP.
... and as for the rest of you rascals, I'll choose to ignore those comments
. I feel like Rodney Dangerfield.
Gotta run because my new Activa and premium chin strap from cpap.com is in a box at my back door - wish me luck with it!
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derek
With APAP my AI = 0, my HI = 0.3 - 1.1 but the HI is significantly higher without. There is absolutely no doubt that the xPAP treatment has had a tremendous effect on the way I feel, and my energy level throughout the day. The hypops were definitely affecting my sleep. That's why I intend to stick with APAP.
... and as for the rest of you rascals, I'll choose to ignore those comments
. I feel like Rodney Dangerfield.Gotta run because my new Activa and premium chin strap from cpap.com is in a box at my back door - wish me luck with it!
. derek
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I guess I'll keep tweeking and go for it then. I was thinking that ( 4.8 ) was as good as I was gonna get. Maybe not. How would it be? AHI < 1 wow!derek wrote:jjb,
With APAP my AI = 0, my HI = 0.3 - 1.1 but the HI is significantly higher without. There is absolutely no doubt that the xPAP treatment has had a tremendous effect on the way I feel, and my energy level throughout the day. The hypops were definitely affecting my sleep. That's why I intend to stick with APAP.
derek
thx derek,
jjb
jjb,
I aint typical. The reason for my signature is that I don't have any apneas - just hypopneas. I think you should be real pleased that you have your AHI < 5. My untreated HI is only in that range, so I start from a different position from most on this forum.
BUT, as I said earlier, this was enough to severely disrupt my sleep to the point that I fell asleep at the wheel while driving home from work (no damage - just gave me a huge scare). Believe me, that sent me scurrying to a sleep study.
derek
I aint typical. The reason for my signature is that I don't have any apneas - just hypopneas. I think you should be real pleased that you have your AHI < 5. My untreated HI is only in that range, so I start from a different position from most on this forum.
BUT, as I said earlier, this was enough to severely disrupt my sleep to the point that I fell asleep at the wheel while driving home from work (no damage - just gave me a huge scare). Believe me, that sent me scurrying to a sleep study.
derek
And yet one more...
My long term trend report (page 3) gives a flow limitation index average of 1.2, yet the graph is flat-lined at zero. My daily FLI is around 1. Is anybody else showing a zero FLI on the graph?
Incidentally, now that I have more data it's easy to see that the average of the indices reported on page 3 is simply the average of the integer values on the graphs. Over the past 5 days the average AHI is reported on page 3 as 1.2, whereas the average computed from the five daily reports is 0.94.
derek
Incidentally, now that I have more data it's easy to see that the average of the indices reported on page 3 is simply the average of the integer values on the graphs. Over the past 5 days the average AHI is reported on page 3 as 1.2, whereas the average computed from the five daily reports is 0.94.
derek
Re: Plagiarism
I never steal other people's words, I merely "sample" them, and play them back underneath my own rap. That's not stealing, that's just "sampling".-SWS wrote:You'll never see me borrowing other people's words!
Liam, who never quite understood how the rap community thinks that works.
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Derek,
I took another look at my reports. My FL is usually flat lined at 0 also, but the reports will show a small FL - like 1.0 or 1.1. Maybe the graph just doesn't register something that small.
Another interensting thing I noticed on the summary, is that it averages the apneas and the hypopneas separately, then adds them for the AHI. Unlike you, I get both apneas and hypopneas. The numbers are small per day, and it seems as though when one is higher, the other is lower ie if more of them turn into apneas, then there are less hypopneas. I'll have an .06 OA and 2.0 H for an AHI of 2.6 one day, and an OA of 1.1 and .8H another for an AHI of 1.9. The highest I've ever gone on either has been 3.1 - all hypopneas, I had no apneas that day so my AHI was 3.1
Anyway, on the summary it showed an average OA of 1.0 and an average H of 2.1 for an AHI of 3.1, which actually was the HIGHEST AHI of the week. I worked it out myself, and my average AHI was 2.23
Debbie
I took another look at my reports. My FL is usually flat lined at 0 also, but the reports will show a small FL - like 1.0 or 1.1. Maybe the graph just doesn't register something that small.
Another interensting thing I noticed on the summary, is that it averages the apneas and the hypopneas separately, then adds them for the AHI. Unlike you, I get both apneas and hypopneas. The numbers are small per day, and it seems as though when one is higher, the other is lower ie if more of them turn into apneas, then there are less hypopneas. I'll have an .06 OA and 2.0 H for an AHI of 2.6 one day, and an OA of 1.1 and .8H another for an AHI of 1.9. The highest I've ever gone on either has been 3.1 - all hypopneas, I had no apneas that day so my AHI was 3.1
Anyway, on the summary it showed an average OA of 1.0 and an average H of 2.1 for an AHI of 3.1, which actually was the HIGHEST AHI of the week. I worked it out myself, and my average AHI was 2.23
Debbie
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