Mask fit Air Fit P10 pillows.

JoS · Post by **JoS** » Sat Dec 31, 2016 12:10 pm

Have recently change over to Air sense 10 pillows after using tap tap for a couple of years. Since September, found them amazing and so comfy. Started to get the little "sad face" on my machine on mask fit so changed out for new pillows. Still have little sad face. They feel great, comfy and no air appears to be blowing out, and appear to have a good seal. Anyone have any ideas please? Thank you.

OkyDoky · Post by **OkyDoky** » Sat Dec 31, 2016 12:19 pm

Not sure what mask you are referring too since there is no mask called Air sense 10 pillows. Can you look on your mask and identify the manufacturer? If it is the ResMed P 10 it will have one divided strap. If not we need the correct mask to help.

LSAT · Post by **LSAT** » Sat Dec 31, 2016 12:33 pm

Mouth breathing?

JoS · Post by **JoS** » Sat Dec 31, 2016 2:53 pm

Stupid me sorry. Air fit 10.

bonjour · Post by **bonjour** » Sat Dec 31, 2016 3:14 pm

LSAT wrote:Mouth breathing?

I really, really like the P10 Pillows, I had absolutely NO MASK LEAK.

on the other hand a horrible mouth leak, ended up going to an Amara View FFM with great results.

OkyDoky · Post by **OkyDoky** » Sat Dec 31, 2016 3:39 pm

If you are mouth breathing, you may just need a little reminder to keep your mouth shut. Some have used a stretchy hair band stretched over their mouth. Some use a soft cervical collar. Some tape their mouth. During the day practice nose breathing with your tongue at the roof of your mouth with the tip behind your top teeth. Since you are used to the Tap Pap you might try a mouth guard to see if your mouth stays closed. If these fail a FF mask would be necessary.

JoS · Post by **JoS** » Sat Dec 31, 2016 4:17 pm

ok, thank you all. Has been great since September with "smiley faces" for mask fit every day, so dont know why I have started to mouth breathe again.
OkyDoky will try those tips thank you. Have a hair band so will try tonight. Just dont fancy a FF mask but obviously may not have the choice. My AHI is still low at between, 0.2 and 0.5 over last few days so would I still need to change, or is this a false reading as mask is not fitting right? My average has been about 0.1 for about the last year. Thanks guys.

OkyDoky · Post by **OkyDoky** » Sat Dec 31, 2016 4:50 pm

Whether the AHI is accurate or not depends on how large and how long the leaks were. If you look at your leaks in Sleepyhead you will know if the L/min is above ResMed's 24L/min that they say is where their machines start having difficulty interpreting events. It's marginal between 24 and 30. Over 30L/min things become skewed. If you don't have Sleepyhead this site will help you learn how to download it. https://sleep.tnet.com/resources/sleepyhead

JoS · Post by **JoS** » Sat Dec 31, 2016 5:08 pm

OkyDoky wrote:Whether the AHI is accurate or not depends on how large and how long the leaks were. If you look at your leaks in Sleepyhead you will know if the L/min is above ResMed's 24L/min that they say is where their machines start having difficulty interpreting events. It's marginal between 24 and 30. Over 30L/min things become skewed. If you don't have Sleepyhead this site will help you learn how to download it. https://sleep.tnet.com/resources/sleepyhead

Thank you. I do have sleepyhead so will take a look and see if I can work out the L/min as you said. Didnt know any of that, and usually just check my AHI, so thats great information thanks. Will post and let you know if I can manage to work it out

JoS · Post by **JoS** » Sat Dec 31, 2016 5:21 pm

OkyDoky wrote:Whether the AHI is accurate or not depends on how large and how long the leaks were. If you look at your leaks in Sleepyhead you will know if the L/min is above ResMed's 24L/min that they say is where their machines start having difficulty interpreting events. It's marginal between 24 and 30. Over 30L/min things become skewed. If you don't have Sleepyhead this site will help you learn how to download it. https://sleep.tnet.com/resources/sleepyhead

Sorry to be a pest. On the "leak" graph is that where I am looking to make sure I am between 24 and 30, and not over 30 as a lot of the time the graph does goes above 30.

OkyDoky · Post by **OkyDoky** » Sat Dec 31, 2016 5:46 pm

JoS wrote:
OkyDoky wrote:Whether the AHI is accurate or not depends on how large and how long the leaks were. If you look at your leaks in Sleepyhead you will know if the L/min is above ResMed's 24L/min that they say is where their machines start having difficulty interpreting events. It's marginal between 24 and 30. Over 30L/min things become skewed. If you don't have Sleepyhead this site will help you learn how to download it. https://sleep.tnet.com/resources/sleepyhead
Sorry to be a pest. On the "leak" graph is that where I am looking to make sure I am between 24 and 30, and not over 30 as a lot of the time the graph does goes above 30.

There are leak numbers on the left but the graph also shows you when and how long. You can go to the lower left corner of the graph (XY axis) and double click
there to resize the graph where it will make it easier to read.

JoS · Post by **JoS** » Sat Dec 31, 2016 6:00 pm

OkyDoky wrote:
JoS wrote:
OkyDoky wrote:Whether the AHI is accurate or not depends on how large and how long the leaks were. If you look at your leaks in Sleepyhead you will know if the L/min is above ResMed's 24L/min that they say is where their machines start having difficulty interpreting events. It's marginal between 24 and 30. Over 30L/min things become skewed. If you don't have Sleepyhead this site will help you learn how to download it. https://sleep.tnet.com/resources/sleepyhead
Sorry to be a pest. On the "leak" graph is that where I am looking to make sure I am between 24 and 30, and not over 30 as a lot of the time the graph does goes above 30.

There are leak numbers on the left but the graph also shows you when and how long. You can go to the lower left corner of the graph (XY axis) and double click
there to resize the graph where it will make it easier to read.

Thanks. Think I have it now. For instance last night 95% leaks was 38.40........so too high. Past few days the same some days 40.00. So need to shut my mouth!!!!!

OkyDoky · Post by **OkyDoky** » Sat Dec 31, 2016 6:07 pm

JoS wrote: Thanks. Think I have it now. For instance last night 95% leaks was 38.40........so too high. Past few days the same some days 40.00. So need to shut my mouth!!!!!

One thing you have to remember is the the 95% numbers mean that you were at OR BELOW that number for 95% of the time. So you might have been at the number for only a few minutes or for hours. So that is why you also need to check out the graph to see how much of a problem the leaks are.

JoS · Post by **JoS** » Sat Dec 31, 2016 6:15 pm

OkyDoky wrote:
JoS wrote: Thanks. Think I have it now. For instance last night 95% leaks was 38.40........so too high. Past few days the same some days 40.00. So need to shut my mouth!!!!!
One thing you have to remember is the the 95% numbers mean that you were at OR BELOW that number for 95% of the time. So you might have been at the number for only a few minutes or for hours. So that is why you also need to check out the graph to see how much of a problem the leaks are.

Looking along the graph pretty high as I go along for a lot of the time, about 38 ish. Will try a mouth guard that I have, and the hairband tonight and see if that helps. I will post back tomorrow and let you know. Thank you very much indeed for your help.

LSAT · Post by **LSAT** » Sat Dec 31, 2016 6:32 pm

In my opinion...If your AHI is that low, and the leaks don't disturb your sleep, forget about them. Most machines compensate for leaks.

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