Should Trump Jump Up?

[ChicagoGranny]

What if they had a Presidential debate and only invited the two most unpopular candidates?

[Lucyhere]

What if they had a Presidential debate and only invited the two most unpopular candidates?

Obviously that is exactly what is going to happen... if Trump shows up that is. And, if he actually does, it's going to be the most fun ever!

[jnk...]

Re: Should Trump Drop Out

Nah. I say everyone should do his or her best to get a diploma or GED equivalent, whenever possible.

[DreamStalker]

What if they had a Presidential debate and only invited the two most unpopular candidates?

Obviously that is exactly what is going to happen... if Trump shows up that is. And, if he actually does, it's going to be the most fun ever!

Actually Hillary might be the one who fails to show should someone in the Justice Department have the balls to throw her in jail ... Benghazi emails involving Clinton recovered by FBI ... and this: On August 19, U.S. District Court Judge Emmet G. Sullivan granted Judicial Watch further discovery on the Clinton email matter and ordered Clinton to answer the questions “by no later than thirty days thereafter….”

But yeah .... if you're idea of fun is sitting in front of the boob tube watching a criminal liar debate with an idiot clown over non-relevant issues.

[Lucyhere]

What if they had a Presidential debate and only invited the two most unpopular candidates?

Obviously that is exactly what is going to happen... if Trump shows up that is. And, if he actually does, it's going to be the most fun ever!

Actually Hillary might be the one who fails to show should someone in the Justice Department have the balls to throw her in jail ... Benghazi emails involving Clinton recovered by FBI ... and this: On August 19, U.S. District Court Judge Emmet G. Sullivan granted Judicial Watch further discovery on the Clinton email matter and ordered Clinton to answer the questions “by no later than thirty days thereafter….”

But yeah .... if you're idea of fun is sitting in front of the boob tube watching a criminal liar debate with an idiot clown over non-relevant issues.

I had not read either article until you posted. Keep in mind that JudicialWatch has conservative leanings. IF it turns out that HC isn't telling the whole truth, one has a choice. One is a clown and perhaps one isn't telling the whole truth. So, what to do? I don't think voting for either of the other two running is the answer. I don't think not voting is the answer. I also don't think HC is dangerous. I definitely think DT is. btw... you really don't think DT lies? For one, ask the people who went to his so called university about that; as well as the underpaid workers who worked on his projects. Ummm... his tax returns??? Who would you rather have a heartbeat away from the "button"? For me, it's an easy decision.

And yes, I do think watching the tube will be funny and enlightening. One will come across as dumbo the clown; the other an educated, extremely smart woman who has been in politics her whole adult life.

[flightco]

What if they had a Presidential debate and only invited the two most unpopular candidates?

Obviously that is exactly what is going to happen... if Trump shows up that is. And, if he actually does, it's going to be the most fun ever!

Actually Hillary might be the one who fails to show should someone in the Justice Department have the balls to throw her in jail ... Benghazi emails involving Clinton recovered by FBI ... and this: On August 19, U.S. District Court Judge Emmet G. Sullivan granted Judicial Watch further discovery on the Clinton email matter and ordered Clinton to answer the questions “by no later than thirty days thereafter….”

But yeah .... if you're idea of fun is sitting in front of the boob tube watching a criminal liar debate with an idiot clown over non-relevant issues.

I had not read either article until you posted. Keep in mind that JudicialWatch has conservative leanings. IF it turns out that HC isn't telling the whole truth, one has a choice. One is a clown and perhaps one isn't telling the whole truth. So, what to do? I don't think voting for either of the other two running is the answer. I don't think not voting is the answer. I also don't think HC is dangerous. I definitely think DT is. btw... you really don't think DT lies? For one, ask the people who went to his so called university about that; as well as the underpaid workers who worked on his projects. Ummm... his tax returns??? Who would you rather have a heartbeat away from the "button"? For me, it's an easy decision.

And yes, I do think watching the tube will be funny and enlightening. One will come across as dumbo the clown; the other an educated, extremely smart woman who has been in politics her whole adult life.

I know 16 professional GOP politicians who thought the same thing (but I am worried you might be right)

[DreamStalker]

I had not read either article until you posted. Keep in mind that JudicialWatch has conservative leanings. IF it turns out that HC isn't telling the whole truth, one has a choice. One is a clown and perhaps one isn't telling the whole truth. So, what to do? I don't think voting for either of the other two running is the answer. I don't think not voting is the answer. I also don't think HC is dangerous. I definitely think DT is. btw... you really don't think DT lies? For one, ask the people who went to his so called university about that; as well as the underpaid workers who worked on his projects. Ummm... his tax returns??? Who would you rather have a heartbeat away from the "button"? For me, it's an easy decision.

And yes, I do think watching the tube will be funny and enlightening. One will come across as dumbo the clown; the other an educated, extremely smart woman who has been in politics her whole adult life.

What politician does not lie and who cares about distractive issues like tax returns as a POTUS qualification? The "button" requires more than one heartbeat to activate, but yes, having either one anywhere near it is scary.

I disagree with your assessment of who is more dangerous. If Trump is elected (which he won't be), he would be less dangerous because he has no political support from either party .... he would have no power and simply be a lame-duck from start to finish. The Clinton power machine on the other hand, has powerful influence not just over Congress, but also over Justice Department, State Department, and many if not all of the alphabet soup federal agencies which are supposed to be party independent -- thus side-stepping all checks and balances. Clinton is by far more likely to cause the most damage .... just ask the people of Egypt, Libya, and Syria how her foreign policy worked out for them.

DANGER! DANGER!

[cpap addict]

What does this have to do with CPAP?

[flightco]

What does this have to do with CPAP?

Become a member, log in, learn a little about the community here and you just might get a decent answer. Aside from that, nobody really cares what you think because you are anonymous with nothing vested here.

I will say this, like most families, we seem to like arguing at the dinner table.

[DreamStalker]

What does this have to do with CPAP?

Well everything. If you're unable to figure out which thread topics to click on because of your short-circuiting brain or whatever, chances are that your CPAP therapy is inadequate.



Now Hillary's short-circuiting brain is entirely a different matter as you might note here .... Obama's former doctor: Clinton should have neurological exam

and here ....

I've spent the last several years downloading as much health, farming, and self-sufficent information as I can find and storing it on my own database.

Hey Eddie Fatsolino!

Come on over here to this thread and team up with Susie, be a chump and help her out.

your post is arrant nonsense, oncologically speaking. Or utter balderdash, if you prefer.

All of his posts follow that pattern. I suspect pretty severe mental illness.

Maybe he went too many years before seeking CPAP treatment?

This tells you something else:

DreamStalker wrote:
I've spent the last several years downloading as much health, farming, and self-sufficent information as I can find and storing it on my own database.

He has met the apocalypse, and it is he.

You're on the wrong fricken thread over there speaking nonsense about oncology.

[Hang Fire]

What does this have to do with CPAP?

What does your post have to do with CPAP?

[chunkyfrog]

And the Romans held circuses to distract the masses from the misery all around them.
Keeping them entertained delayed reform/revolution by generations.

[Goofproof]

"Chunkyfrog"; And the Romans held circuses to distract the masses from the misery all around them.
Keeping them entertained delayed reform/revolution by generations.[/quote

Now days we have T.V. News and other media., to distract the Sheeples from the fact its them on the Slaughter House Floor. Jim

[bryansong]

I liked last night's speech.

[DreamStalker]

And the Romans held circuses to distract the masses from the misery all around them.
Keeping them entertained delayed reform/revolution by generations.

Here's a short piece by Charles Hugh Smith -

The "Secret Sauce" of the Byzantine Empire: Stable Currency, Social Mobility

How did Byzantium endure for 1,000 years after the fall of Rome?
One of my reading projects over the past year is to learn more about empires:how they are established, why they endure and why they crumble.

To this end, I've recently read seven books on a wide variety of empires. The literature on empires is vast, so this is only a tiny slice of the available books. Nonetheless I think these 7 titles offer a fairly comprehensive spectrum:

How Rome Fell: Death of a Superpower (Adrian Goldsworthy)

War and Peace and War: The Rise and Fall of Empires (Peter Turchin)

The Rise of Rome: The Making of the World's Greatest Empire (Anthony Everitt)

428 AD: An Ordinary Year at the End of the Roman Empire (Giusto Traina)

Genghis Khan and the Making of the Modern World (Jack Weatherford)

Venice: A New History (Thomas F. Madden)

Byzantium: The Surprising Life of a Medieval Empire (Judith Herrin)

I was not exposed to much history of the Byzantine Empire in high school or college, so I found the last book of particular interest, despite its dry academic style.

The Byzantine Empire, based in Constantinople (now Istanbul), began as the Eastern Roman Empire when the Roman Empire was split into East and West to facilitate defense.

In the original conception, the two halves would be jointly ruled by two emperors. But as the Western Roman Empire frayed and devolved, power shifted to the still-vibrant Eastern Roman Empire, which spoke Greek rather than Latin and was Orthodox Christian rather than Catholic.

The Byzantine (Eastern Roman) Empire endured from the western empire's fall in 476 A.D. to 1453 A.D., when Constantinople fell to invading Turkish forces.

Thus the Byzantine Empire endured for roughly 1,000 years after the Fall of Rome (977 years, to be exact). It was an Empire that spanned the Medieval ages, that reached its zenith around 1025 A.D., and lasted right up to the dawn of the Renaissance.



How did Byzantium endure for 1,000 years after the fall of Rome? There are many factors, of course, but I think these four elements are the "secret sauce" of the Eastern Roman Imperial longevity:

1. A stable currency. When the Empire devalued its currency for the first time in the 13th century, it triggered a long-lasting loss of faith in the currency. This devaluation was the beginning of the end, as the Empire never recovered its financial footing.

Lesson: you cannot devalue your way to stability, influence, power or prosperity.

2. Multiple pathways of social mobility via the church, military and civil bureaucracy. Men from poor provincial villages and towns could make their mark and rise to positions of wealth and power via joining the church or military hierarchies, or by serving ably in the Imperial bureaucracy. Women could rise to positions of wealth and influence via marrying well.

3. Pervasive tax collection to fund defense. Empires and states were under essentially constant attack for much of this 1,000 year period of history, and the empire collected land and other taxes via a vast bureaucracy of tax records and collections. Interestingly, it is estimated that the Imperial taxes absorbed about 20% of all income--roughly the same percentage the U.S. government absorbs.

When the tax system fell into disrepair, revenues sagged and defenses almost failed. Competent leadership restored the tax system and defenses, giving the Empire another few hundred years of life.

4. Safe trading routes and markets. The Empire provided protected sea and land routes for traders from everywhere, and Constantinople offered a vast depot for trading and manufacture. Much of the Empire's wealth and tax revenues flowed from trade, and the Empire maintained a long history of offering lucrative trade deals with allies such as Venice.

I see these dynamics as being just as critical in the present age. If a nation's currency loses value, the ladders of social mobility are broken, the tax system is corrupt and/or unfair and trade is restricted or suppressed, the nation/empire is doomed to erosion and collapse.

http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/20 ... mpire.html

Hmmm ... the USD has lost 95% of its value in the past 100 years.