does respifacile aid breathing?

[Alexandre]

We've argued science with you, not made it personal except to speculate about who you are and what your motives are, so for you to say that (above) is nasty.

Julie, you are the only one who indeed argued science and had nuanced comments, but just read the last comment of chunkyfrog which was: "Does he have a brightly painted wagon, pulled by a very old horse?"
You would agree it wasn't rational science.

Anyway, won't bother all you anymore, that was just my 1-2 last comments. Have a nice day

[Alexandre]

In one of 3 categories of sleep apnea, which is OSA, CPAP works in 100% of cases but is not indispensable for 100%.
7-8% could replace CPAP by Respifacile, and 92-93% must keep absolutely their CPAP.

Depends of specific profile of the patient and that's all I'm saying.

For goodness sake man, you just don't get that this is a CPAP forum.

You also conveniently fail to comment that anyone interested can perform the Cottle test (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfFxUBZBW1o) to see if your device will help with nasal breathing. For most people the test will be negative. Among the small amount of people who test positive, a large portion of them would do well to have corrective surgery.

Let's face it, for the small amount testing positive, the Respifacile only helps while they are wearing it. For at least twelve hours per day, they will not be wearing it. Nose breathing 24 hours per day is important. Have the corrective surgery and improve your health. Use Respifacile and only have improvement for what? 8 hours per day?

I have no problem with the product itself. But you need to understand this is a CPAP forum.

Is it possible to forget 1 min "my device" and read what I write without constantly see a "sell" intention!!?

Your youtube video on Cottle maneuver is wrong, as it is not a "test" to prove anything, but historically the easiest way to demonstrate the proportion of respiratory system resistance located just in the anterior nasal valve (50-60% of the whole system).

Yes of course that the corrective surgery is the ideal solution for nose problems. Who would like to look like a chimp wearing a nasal dilator? Nobody.
Myself tried the surgery too first.

Now is the nose corrective surgery always possible? No of course.
What is the success rate of corrective surgery honestly? <50% any honest ENT would admit it.

So when 16-18% of the population have chronic nasal blockage, 8-9% can't have a successful corrective surgery.

Around 15,000,000 people only in US. I was one of those addicted to nasal sprays (vasoconstrictors and corticosteroids) for years, before deciding to accept the surgery, which FAILED like >50% and then what? I started to develop OSA and being angry that any doctor could during 20 years solve what isn't an optional need, it's first human need, just f... breathing to sleep.
Because during day and vertical position, a little air passage existed which of course were closing as soon as I went horizontal to sleep...

So those 8h sleep are strategic and much more important than other 16 hours in vertical position.
Also nasal breathing stimulate nervous receptors up nasal cavities which starts alpha phase of sleep.

And thanks I saw it's a CPAP forum, that's why I wrote hundreds of words on OSA and not about Tango.

If you want this forum to be a "mask" forum and limit yourself just to tips on how live and set better your masks, sorry I'll leave.
Everything is related and for example mask leakages are among other factors related to nasal resistance.

I wil stop, everything I write is taken antagonizing way as if I was obsessed to sell 3-4 devices more or less... Believe it or not, I'm first doctor, second inventor, and only after if somebody asks about, I talk and promote the device because I sleep with it every night and believe in. Here the topic was "does respifacile aid breathing?" so I answered, and with my real name and location. Sorry again and good luck to all.

[Alexandre]

As one who emailed Alexandre not expecting much, I was the recipient of someone who took the time to write a thoughtful and helpful reply. So I am very saddened by all the negative replies he has gotten.

I definitely understand the skepticism as I feel the same way when people think that alternative health practitioners are the answer to "evil" psychiatry. But at the same time, I don't understand why every discussion that contradicts the belief that pap therapy is the only option that works for sleep apnea has to be met with extreme hostility. It isn't like he is telling everyone on this board to quit pap therapy and buy his device.

And just so folks know, he didn't try to sell me the respifacile breathing device.

49er

Many thanks 49er for kind words, really appreciated them

[poppi2]

Doc, I hate to see you leave. I have learned new things from your discussions. But yes, we are a very cynical group of sleepy people. Earl

[CowFish]

I have learned new things from your discussions.

The test is what will you do differently with this new knowledge to improve your situation. Anything? Nothing?

[The Welshman]

I have tried a number of nasal dilators and found them to be modestly effective.

I plunged for the respifacile about 6 weeks ago. Not fantastic customer service but the product arrived pretty much on time.

For me, it works. For my wife, she is delighted.

I tend to snore through the mouth and wanted to avoid the blanket prescription of CPAP machine.

The respifacile works for me and makes a big difference.

I tried to contact the owner to let him know. All I heard was crickets.

Mediorce customer service aside, this product has done wonders for me and my spouse.

[chunkyfrog]

I assume your problem was simple snoring, without apnea.
I am happy you are having relief from your snoring, and perhaps congestion.
Since my snoring is a definitive part of my apnea, I choose to suck hose, with my compatriots here.

[Wulfman...]

I have tried a number of nasal dilators and found them to be modestly effective.

I plunged for the respifacile about 6 weeks ago. Not fantastic customer service but the product arrived pretty much on time.

For me, it works. For my wife, she is delighted.

I tend to snore through the mouth and wanted to avoid the blanket prescription of CPAP machine.

The respifacile works for me and makes a big difference.

I tried to contact the owner to let him know. All I heard was crickets.

Mediorce customer service aside, this product has done wonders for me and my spouse.

Did you ever have an in-lab sleep study?
If not, you're more than likely kidding yourself if you think you're only "snoring".
Maybe you really need the CPAP therapy after all.
Maybe the "owner" died from ignorance or refusal to admit that he (?) needed CPAP therapy, too.
And, it would seem that ALL of the original posters in this thread were the same person trying to sell a product. In other words they were "shills". Maybe you are, too.


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[The Welshman]

Lads/Lasses

Good responses and I'm glad your CPAP protocol is working for you.

I did the over-night at the sleep clinic and was diagnosed with sleep apnea—hence the recommendation. And because I've little weight to lose, rarely dring and have never smoked, it seemed to be my only route.

However, as a frequently traveller and one who doesn't like the idea of stuff on his face, I thought I'd look around at alternatives.

Tried the stripes and they made a minor difference. But a little was encourgaging so I looked into furhter. Tried the nasal cones and they were an improvement over the strips. This gave me the confidence to splash out the respifacile—plus it wasn't disposable and had long life time.

For me it works. I have a deviated septum from rugby injuries but the greater airflow seems to prevent the need for me to open my mouth which was, for me, the initiator of the apnea.

Den, erm, I don't think I'm a shill. I have no link to the company. I am merely relating my personal experience.

[Julie]

You dont seem to get it - snoring is a symptom and nice that you fixed it, but it does NOT mean your apnea is gone. And you could experience the consequences of it being untreated at any time. Stop kidding yourself.

[Wulfman...]

Lads/Lasses

Good responses and I'm glad your CPAP protocol is working for you.

I did the over-night at the sleep clinic and was diagnosed with sleep apnea—hence the recommendation. And because I've little weight to lose, rarely dring and have never smoked, it seemed to be my only route.

However, as a frequently traveller and one who doesn't like the idea of stuff on his face, I thought I'd look around at alternatives.

Tried the stripes and they made a minor difference. But a little was encourgaging so I looked into furhter. Tried the nasal cones and they were an improvement over the strips. This gave me the confidence to splash out the respifacile—plus it wasn't disposable and had long life time.

For me it works. I have a deviated septum from rugby injuries but the greater airflow seems to prevent the need for me to open my mouth which was, for me, the initiator of the apnea.

Den, erm, I don't think I'm a shill. I have no link to the company. I am merely relating my personal experience.

Throw out the preconceived notions. "Skinny" and "normal-sized" people can have apnea, too.
Many of us had it in varying degrees for most our lives.
We also have/had enlarged turbinates and deviated septums, too.

Don't say you haven't been warned if some day it manifests itself into full-blown sleep apnea.
Don't forget, there is also Central and Mixed Apnea, too.


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[The Welshman]

You dont seem to get it - snoring is a symptom and nice that you fixed it, but it does NOT mean your apnea is gone. And you could experience the consequences of it being untreated at any time. Stop kidding yourself.

I do get it.

However, my wife would wake up whenever I would restart breathing. She tells me she no longer wakes up.

Yes, I realise that this is only anecdotal but it is an observation worth researching. I am due to have a follow-up with the sleep clinic next month and will ask to see if I could trial the respifacile with the CPAP. I'll share the results.

"Skinny" and "normal-sized" people can have apnea, too.

Yes, I know. I'm one of the normal-sized people. It was never a perception/bias I held. I was merely sharing what the Dr said to me.

"Look in most cases we advise people to change certain lifestyle factors; lose weight, stop smoking, drink less alcohol before going to bed. Those aren't really options with you."

My understanding is that OSA arises when an air passageway gets blocked. For me this occurred when I was sleeping on my back, mouth open. The sleeping clinic data showed blockage and less apnea when on my side.

I would always wake with a dry and slightly irritated throat.

Since using this nasal dilator (I don't want to use the word respifacile) I find that I don't sleep with my mouth open (not sore throat anymore) and I wake up far less.

Just sharing, and look forward to seeing if the sleep clinic will allow me to run the experiment.

[Julie]

You're saying you believe you have what's called positional apnea, which can be quite valid, but it's vital that you actually get it checked, because even if you don't mouth breathe, etc. on your side, doesn't mean you don't have apnea, just a less obvious amount. Many people improve by not back sleeping, but still have valid and serious apnea - so get tested!

[The Welshman]

Have been tested—a some icky place in Scarborough Ontario—and going back there to get optimal CPAP pressure setting.

Will be asking if I can do a parallel experiment with nasal dilator so I can compare effectiveness of both methods.

Will share the results if they're happy to do trial.

[Julie]

Scarborough huh?

Well I worked at Toronto Western (before it became 'the' Toronto Hosp, plus the Sick Kids and Mt. Sinai, but things have likely changed since then, but i wouldn't count on their wanting to do the dilator testing... maybe if you ask nicely.