Standalone Humidifiers

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Standalone Humidifiers

Post by hellnation » Fri May 06, 2016 7:54 pm

Hello,

I'm not a CPAP/BiPAP user. I use a full blown ventilator (LTV 1150) 24/7.

I am looking at adding some humidity to my ventilation when I go around with my power wheelchair. I know a few people who use Resmed Humidaire products to do just that with a 12v deep cycle battery.

Other than Resmed Humidaire, what other standalone humidifiers are out there for CPAP/BiPAP. Most of the humidifiers I see are built to work with a specific CPAP machine.

And of course I'm trying to get something that works on DC power and will have a decent power consumption so I can go around doing my thing without recharging the battery every hour.

Thanks!

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Re: Standalone Humidifiers

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Re: Standalone Humidifiers

Post by hellnation » Fri May 06, 2016 8:16 pm

Pugsy wrote:Have you seen this one?

https://www.cpap.com/productpage/fisher ... ifier.html
Hi, yes, I actually use a F&P HC500 for my humidity when I sleep, it is a great humidifier but very power hungry.

I know some of you use humidifiers when camping and can use it the whole night. ideally I'd like to have 8 hours of autonomy. I'm not sure F&P products could ever deliver that with a deep cycle 12v battery.

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Re: Standalone Humidifiers

Post by Pugsy » Fri May 06, 2016 8:40 pm

Probably the majority of campers using cpap go without the heated humidifier because pretty much all those humidifiers are power hungry monsters. We always tell people that if they want to use their humidifier on battery to be prepared for short life on the battery and frequent recharges. They either leave the humidifier at home or just use it with heat in the off position so they get "passover" humidity only. Not much but better than nothing and for some people it is sufficient. I couldn't do it. My nasal mucosa would get so mad at me if they got the least little bit dried out.

I tried my PR S1 machine on battery using the humidifier....best I ever got was 3 1/2 hours and that was a battery specially designed for cpap machines.

I wonder how much moisture you could get added with just "passover" humidity...no heat.
For some people it is enough. Somehow I doubt it would be for someone on a ventilator due to amount of air...was just thinking out loud. Would be better than nothing though.

I can't think of any other humidifier that could be used stand alone for your needs at the moment. Perhaps someone else has an idea and I will continue to try to think about it to see if maybe there is something else.

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Re: Standalone Humidifiers

Post by palerider » Fri May 06, 2016 9:09 pm

unfortunately, *all* heated humidifiers are power hungry... it's the nature of the beast.

it takes a lot of energy to raise the temp of water.

your best bet is to find some kind of passive humidifer, or even, make one... I'd imagine something with a water reservoir and perhaps wicks... much like some room humidifiers.... though yours wouldn't need a fan, since it'd be using the airflow from the ventilator.

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Re: Standalone Humidifiers

Post by JDS74 » Fri May 06, 2016 9:56 pm

A stand alone non-heated humidifier could work with no power drain.
Here is a link to the RemStar Passover humidifier.

https://www.cpap.com/productpage/respir ... -hose.html

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Re: Standalone Humidifiers

Post by hellnation » Sat May 07, 2016 1:12 pm

JDS74 wrote:A stand alone non-heated humidifier could work with no power drain.
Here is a link to the RemStar Passover humidifier.

https://www.cpap.com/productpage/respir ... -hose.html
That's a very interesting product, I wonder how much humidity saturation you can get with this in a best case scenario? I can't seem to find any literature on the subject.

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Re: Standalone Humidifiers

Post by hellnation » Sat May 07, 2016 1:15 pm

Thanks for all the replies so far.

I am also considering another way to get humidity in my ventilator's circuit, using a high capacity nebulizer bottle and a small portable compressor.

It's the same thing people use for nebulizer treatments on the go, which is very good at delivering humidity.

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Re: Standalone Humidifiers

Post by hellnation » Sat May 07, 2016 1:19 pm

I also read about a Respironics humidifier that supposedly works on DC on this forum, however I can't find any products that fit that description from Respironics. Anyone know what I'm referring to here?

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Re: Standalone Humidifiers

Post by hellnation » Sun May 08, 2016 2:54 pm

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