What is the difference between S9 and Airsense?

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What is the difference between S9 and Airsense?

Post by Arizona-Willie » Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:15 am

I see Resmed has a new unit the Airsense.

What is the difference between an Airsense Auto and an S9 Auto?

They are the same price on cpap.com.

I would think the old S9 would be cheaper since there is a new model out.

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Re: What is the difference between S9 and Airsense?

Post by lilly747 » Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:21 am

Arizona-Willie wrote:I see Resmed has a new unit the Airsense.

What is the difference between an Airsense Auto and an S9 Auto?

They are the same price on cpap.com.

I would think the old S9 would be cheaper since there is a new model out.



I was told the main diff is how it looks and how the humidifier is attached....myself I like the S9

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Re: What is the difference between S9 and Airsense?

Post by Magicdave » Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:12 am

The Airsense is a much smaller device with an integral humidifier container. It also has built in wireless data communication. I've had mine about a year and love it. Especially convenient when travelling.


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Re: What is the difference between S9 and Airsense?

Post by Arizona-Willie » Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:21 pm

Thanks for the responses.

I think I will stick with the S9 autopap since I'm familiar with it and have the heated hose with oxygen attachment for it.

I'm looking on Ebay for used units ... although I'm leery of that. If a smoker used them they are unusable for a non-smoker.
The smell in the smoker's house gets into the unit and there is no way to get it out.

But ... at less than half the price of new units the appeal is hard to resist.

I'm disappointed it isn't lasting longer than six years.

Although it is still blowing air ... I don't know what pressures it is blowing at for sure.
Of course it can't go higher than 20 psi anyway at the max.

I suppose I can keep using it unless it completely quits but just not be able to monitor the pressures etc. with Sleepyhead.

I did use Sleepyhead for my oxygen readings last night and they import fine whether or not I have imported S9 readings.

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Re: What is the difference between S9 and Airsense?

Post by Gasper62 » Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:33 pm

Buy a pink one. At one point, they were being sold for less than $500, the prices are a little higher now. Still a bargain IMO. For $35, a custom skin is available to cover up the Pepto Bismol color, if desired. ~ https://www.cpap.com/productpage/resmed ... ifier.html

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Post by palerider » Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:51 pm

Arizona-Willie wrote:Thanks for the responses.

I think I will stick with the S9 autopap since I'm familiar with it and have the heated hose with oxygen attachment for it.

I'm looking on Ebay for used units ... although I'm leery of that. If a smoker used them they are unusable for a non-smoker.
The smell in the smoker's house gets into the unit and there is no way to get it out.
actually, it's not difficult, it's just a bit time consuming.

you open up the machine, you wipe out the hard plastic parts with hot soapy water and alcohol and they're good, they don't absorb any smell.

wash the foam in hot soapy water.

clean the fan with qtips and alcohol.

that leaves the silicone parts, which *WILL* absorb smoker stink. finally got it out of a unit I'd bought where the silicone was yellow, not clear, by a combination of soaking in oxyclean, vinegar, (didn't know about boiling in baking soda at the time, but I think that would probably help a lot) and running them through the dishwasher repeatedly... eventually, they came clear, and non-stinky.

of course, the easiest thing would be to swap in the silicone parts from your old machine into the new one.... and you'd be good to go, time spent, maybe an hour.

or... you could buy a machine from grayghost4, who destinks any stinky ones before he sells 'em.
Arizona-Willie wrote:Although it is still blowing air ... I don't know what pressures it is blowing at for sure.
Of course it can't go higher than 20 psi anyway at the max.
oh, sure it can, if it's malfunctioning. the same insides are used in the iVAPS machine, which goes to 30. however, typically computer controlled things like that either work right, or fail completely with error messages, they don't just 'drift off'.
Arizona-Willie wrote:I suppose I can keep using it unless it completely quits but just not be able to monitor the pressures etc. with Sleepyhead.
have you tried looking in the sd card slot with a flashlight? maybe it's full of dust and cruft and needs blowing out with some canned air.

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Post by grayghost4 » Fri Apr 15, 2016 2:14 pm

I have a nice clean used one for sale S9 autoset 276 HRS. $400 shipped to you

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Re: What is the difference between S9 and Airsense?

Post by Arizona-Willie » Sat Apr 16, 2016 2:46 pm

Well my machine worked ok last night and shut off properly this morning.

I used the original SD card that formatted itself when I put it in yesterday.

I'm hoping it is ok but I'm considering getting greyghost's unit as a backup.

I've been a hosehead since 2006 and Medicare bought my first machine ... an S8 cpap which I still have.
I've kept it for a backup and could use in an emergency but I prefer the APAP machines and my Comfort hose.

Hate to spend any more money now though. I just upgraded this computer with a new motherboard and cpu and new RAM and bought a Vive that I hope shows up while I'm still alive

Seems there are several out there although it's chancy buying from Ebay or Craigslist.

I'm wondering if since it's been 10 years since Medicare bought a unit for me, if I'm not elibible for another one and need a new prescription to get them to get me an APAP.

I bought this one out of pocket and now my pocket is getting smaller and smaller.

I see this one is listed on craigslist so I will link to it in case I decide to get it fairly soon. But don't hold it on my account I might or might not be needing it. If this current machine behaves itself it will be harder to justify since I do have the old S8 as a backup.

I think next week I will contact Resmed and see if this one can be repaired ( if it goes out ) and I could use the S8 for a couple of weeks while they fix it.

But, on the other hand the S9 would be a better backup. If I hadn't been spending so much money lately I would jump on it --- and I still may.

Notice how decisive I am

BTW Greyghost ... do you take Paypal payments?

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Re: What is the difference between S9 and Airsense?

Post by Jay Aitchsee » Sat Apr 16, 2016 3:24 pm

Arizona-Willie wrote:I'm wondering if since it's been 10 years since Medicare bought a unit for me, if I'm not elibible for another one and need a new prescription to get them to get me an APAP.
I think it very likely Medicare will fund a new machine. Generally speaking, I think they allow a new one approximately every five years. Your DME undoubtedly has the necessary form(s) for the doctor to fill out and I believe you will need a new (or updated) prescription. You will want a prescription that specifies the equipment you want. At a minimum, one that states an APAP is required.

That said, you may still be responsible for a co-pay depending on your secondary insurance and you will have to figure out if your co-pay would be more than buying outright. If Medicare requires another rental period, it might be close, but if so, I think I would opt for the new machine, even if it cost a little more, it would be a new machine with a warranty.

Just my opinion-you need to check with your providers and insurer(s).

I don't think I'd bother trying to get the old one fixed.

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Re: What is the difference between S9 and Airsense?

Post by hobbs » Sat Apr 16, 2016 4:15 pm

FYI you cannot use the S10 without the humidifier like you could with the S9; you need to purchase a special end plate for $19.95. My S10 also uses much more water than my S9 did. AHI numbers in ResScan are the same for both machines.

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Re: What is the difference between S9 and Airsense?

Post by Arizona-Willie » Sat Apr 16, 2016 5:11 pm

Jay Aitchsee wrote:
Arizona-Willie wrote:I'm wondering if since it's been 10 years since Medicare bought a unit for me, if I'm not elibible for another one and need a new prescription to get them to get me an APAP.
I think it very likely Medicare will fund a new machine. Generally speaking, I think they allow a new one approximately every five years. Your DME undoubtedly has the necessary form(s) for the doctor to fill out and I believe you will need a new (or updated) prescription. You will want a prescription that specifies the equipment you want. At a minimum, one that states an APAP is required.

That said, you may still be responsible for a co-pay depending on your secondary insurance and you will have to figure out if your co-pay would be more than buying outright. If Medicare requires another rental period, it might be close, but if so, I think I would opt for the new machine, even if it cost a little more, it would be a new machine with a warranty.

Just my opinion-you need to check with your providers and insurer(s).

I don't think I'd bother trying to get the old one fixed.
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When I bought my APAP from CPAP.COM all I needed was the prescription for CPAP therapy, which I had a copy of, and I was able to purchase an APAP without having a prescription specifically for an APAP although that may have changed in six years hope not.

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Re: What is the difference between S9 and Airsense?

Post by Jay Aitchsee » Sat Apr 16, 2016 5:30 pm

Arizona-Willie wrote:When I bought my APAP from CPAP.COM all I needed was the prescription for CPAP therapy, which I had a copy of, and I was able to purchase an APAP without having a prescription specifically for an APAP although that may have changed in six years hope not.
No, I'm sure you could buy what you want from CPAP.com with your current prescription, or from a private seller without one. My comments were more related the question you asked about Medicare reimbursement - assuming a purchase from brick and mortar DME. As far as I know, Medicare will not cover purchases from an online vendor.
Arizona-Willie wrote:I'm wondering if since it's been 10 years since Medicare bought a unit for me, if I'm not eligible for another one and need a new prescription to get them to get me an APAP

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Post by chunkyfrog » Sat Apr 16, 2016 5:35 pm

The standard Rx form used by cpap.com is good for 99 months (8 years, 3 months IRW)
Medicare will need the f2f note from your doc, stating you use cpap regularly and it benefits you.
Medicare is subsidized by payroll taxes out of your earnings, so it's paid for--by you.

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