Mouth closure

[Tzvi Snitz]

Can't keep my mouth closed. I have tried the chin strap.....doesn't work with me. Any suggestions?

[Sir NoddinOff]

Welcome to CPAPtalk. Almost every day someone asks that... try using the search box just below the CPAPtalk logo.

Enter:
Mouth breathing

or

Taping mouth

I've written about that dozens of times. Try going to the 'members' tab up above, type in Sir Noddinoff and search my posts for 'taping mouth'.

[Hopeful50]

Haven't had that problem myself, but lots of folks have suggested wearing a soft cervical collar and/or taping the mouth shut.

[Gasper62]

Try to determine if nasal congestion is what's causing you to breathe through your mouth. If so, you'll need to correct that before you'll be able to breathe from your nose only. I failed and now have to use a full face mask. Good luck

[Sir NoddinOff]

Try to determine if nasal congestion is what's causing you to breathe through your mouth. If so, you'll need to correct that before you'll be able to breathe from your nose only. I failed and now have to use a full face mask. Good luck

For my part. I wouldn't put a frowny face after a mention of a full face mask. FFMs (often in conjunction with a mask liner) solve several problems that nasal masks can't handle, mouth breathing being at the top of the list. My experience is that they are comfortable once one finds the right mask. Anyway, good luck finding a mouth closure solution, Tzvi Snitz .

[Gasper62]

Try to determine if nasal congestion is what's causing you to breathe through your mouth. If so, you'll need to correct that before you'll be able to breathe from your nose only. I failed and now have to use a full face mask. Good luck

For my part. I wouldn't put a frowny face after a mention of a full face mask. FFMs (often in conjunction with a mask liner) solve several problems that nasal masks can't handle, mouth breathing being at the top of the list. My experience is that they are comfortable once one finds the right mask. Anyway, good luck finding a mouth closure solution, Tzvi Snitz .

I could not care less what you or "your part" feel about my disappointment in having to wear a FFM . Self-involved much ?

[Sir NoddinOff]

[quote="Gasper62"]I could not care less what you or "your part" feel about my disappointment in having to wear a FFM . Self-involved much ?

NOTICE... from here on out, nobody is allowed to have differing opinions from Gasper. If somebody does, they are too self-involved.

[Gasper62]

Congrats, you just secured yourself a spot on the Bozo list. Enjoy.

[otrpu]

I have been a mouth breather most my life. Usual solution is a regular FFM. I happened upon a Hybrid FFM. Have had pretty good luck with this mask. Has nasal pillows and a much smaller mouth area to seal. Also, has a chin flap, so no chin strap is required. Might want to take a look at it. Link in my equip list below. Hope you find what works for you.
Cheers,
otrpu

[LSAT]

Try to determine if nasal congestion is what's causing you to breathe through your mouth. If so, you'll need to correct that before you'll be able to breathe from your nose only. I failed and now have to use a full face mask. Good luck

So...You're a failure. I never tried to wear a nasal mask or pillows. I knew I was a mouth breather and started day 1 with a FF mask. I have been using the Quattro since I started CPAP. I always mostly breath through my nose but sometimes through my mouth. I refused to wear a chinstrap or tape my mouth.
By the way...the BOZOs can always use another member.

[Gasper62]

Try to determine if nasal congestion is what's causing you to breathe through your mouth. If so, you'll need to correct that before you'll be able to breathe from your nose only. I failed and now have to use a full face mask. Good luck

So...You're a failure. I never tried to wear a nasal mask or pillows. I knew I was a mouth breather and started day 1 with a FF mask. I have been using the Quattro since I started CPAP. I always mostly breath through my nose but sometimes through my mouth. I refused to wear a chinstrap or tape my mouth.
By the way...the BOZOs can always use another member.

Uh huh, is there a point being made in there somewhere ? Maybe you'd like to consult with Sir Bozo on how for his part..... his feelings might apply to your statement. LOL. FYI, I in no way consider myself, or, my PAP therapy a failure. I merely failed to continue successfully utilizing nasal interfaces. I seldom venture above an AHI of 0.3 while getting 7.5-8 hours of sound sleep. All without Sir Bozo's emotional input or approval, I might add. Surely do miss the nasal set-up, though.

[Larry1216]

Have you tried the papcap? I tried other chinstraps before I discovered this one and this one works very well. http://www.pur-sleep.com/papcap-chinstrap. As you can see, the chin strap is separate from the cap which allows you to adjust the tension.

[klv329]

i've been taping for years, many times with a chin strap and tape.

there was a time when i couldn't tape because i would wake up distressed for oxygen but then switched to ASV and taping was good again. i used to just tear off the tape without waking up and without really wondering why i was doing that. looking back on it, i probably needed an ASV years ago and i spent too much time trying to get an apap to work. the odd thing is my AHI numbers weren't bad at all and my doctor dismissed additional testing, so I went off on my own to experiment because i felt like shit. Now the good doctor agrees with me and says that this apnea stuff will get easier when the home sleep study tests are perfected someday.

if you tape and tear it off or if you tear off your mask often, one issue may be clear air way apneas and a need for different treatment.

i am going to try the new hypbrid mask when one comes along on the cheap. the cervical collar is great, and more so now that i have an incline bed frame.

But as the nurses say, taping can be dangerous if you toss your cookies and it gets in your lungs. haven't had that happen yet, but for one close call.

[chunkyfrog]

Gasper, at least you CAN wear a full face mask.
I have not been able to wear most full face masks, due to a face that is not flat enough for the mask designers.
Most masks miss my chin when I relax my jaw.
I was unable to use the Hybrid because of a torus on the outer surface of my right jaw.
The Comfortgel blue would work, except the headgear is so large it requires aggressive re-engineering.
I tried the small Respironics headgear, which was ridiculously too small. (Must be a pediatric headgear)
My leak rates are almost consistently above the happy 24, though the red frowny does not appear until leak passes 40.
Taping results in no change in leak rate.
We all do what works, and hope it's good enough.

[avi123]

Can't keep my mouth closed. I have tried the chin strap.....doesn't work with me. Any suggestions?

Tzvi, try the chinstrap that I am using.