Women with sleep apnea please reply

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Post by BlackSpinner » Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:29 am

Michelle-OH wrote:I think people also might be talking about different types of depression, i.e. if you have a chemical imbalance you may very well need meds for the rest of your life, as opposed to situational depression which is likely to improve as the situation improves, and allow you to come off meds.
Sleep apnea (Sleep deprivation) creates hormonal and chemical imbalances.

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Post by Lucyhere » Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:04 pm

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Michelle-OH wrote:I think people also might be talking about different types of depression, i.e. if you have a chemical imbalance you may very well need meds for the rest of your life, as opposed to situational depression which is likely to improve as the situation improves, and allow you to come off meds.

Sleep apnea (Sleep deprivation) creates hormonal and chemical imbalances.


Yes, in some people it may. However, that doesn't mean for a nano second that depression/anxiety will be completely eliminated by the faithful use of CPAP! Think about what you are saying... even doctors (the good ones) don't report that, and it's nowhere that I can find. It's unrealistic... if everyone who had depression(and SA) ran out and got a CPAP machine, do you think that all of these people will be cured? Of course not! SA is just one factor among many that causes depression.
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Post by BlackSpinner » Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:42 pm

Lucyhere wrote:
BlackSpinner wrote:
Michelle-OH wrote:I think people also might be talking about different types of depression, i.e. if you have a chemical imbalance you may very well need meds for the rest of your life, as opposed to situational depression which is likely to improve as the situation improves, and allow you to come off meds.

Sleep apnea (Sleep deprivation) creates hormonal and chemical imbalances.


Yes, in some people it may. However, that doesn't mean for a nano second that depression/anxiety will be completely eliminated by the faithful use of CPAP! Think about what you are saying... even doctors (the good ones) don't report that, and it's nowhere that I can find. It's unrealistic... if everyone who had depression(and SA) ran out and got a CPAP machine, do you think that all of these people will be cured? Of course not! SA is just one factor among many that causes depression.

Human bodies tend to react the same way to sleep deprivation. It is not a "may" it is a documented "does". Not everyone gets depressed or anxiety over it immediately but your hormones and chemicals go out of balance after one night of sleep deprivation.
http://sleepjunkies.com/blog/sleep-appetite-regulation/

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Post by Gasper62 » Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:59 pm

LOL. Y'all are rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. The OP hasn't been around since two minutes after starting this thread. This was done on Friday the 1st. (April Fools Day)

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Post by BlackSpinner » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:07 pm

Gasper62 wrote:LOL. Y'all are rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. The OP hasn't been around since two minutes after starting this thread. This was done on Friday the 1st. (April Fools Day)

Anyone in a support or teaching position will tell you that for every question asked there are at least 10 people afraid to ask it. So besides the OP there are 10 people hungering for this information.

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Post by Gasper62 » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:11 pm

"Hungering" for what amounts to flatulent opinions from the usual suspects gallery. Uh huh, sure.

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Post by Lucyhere » Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:25 pm

BlackSpinner wrote:
Gasper62 wrote:LOL. Y'all are rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. The OP hasn't been around since two minutes after starting this thread. This was done on Friday the 1st. (April Fools Day)

Anyone in a support or teaching position will tell you that for every question asked there are at least 10 people afraid to ask it. So besides the OP there are 10 people hungering for this information.

Absolutely agree with you on this one!
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Post by Lucyhere » Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:52 pm

BlackSpinner wrote:
Lucyhere wrote:
BlackSpinner wrote:
Michelle-OH wrote:I think people also might be talking about different types of depression, i.e. if you have a chemical imbalance you may very well need meds for the rest of your life, as opposed to situational depression which is likely to improve as the situation improves, and allow you to come off meds.



Sleep apnea (Sleep deprivation) creates hormonal and chemical imbalances.




Yes, in some people it may. However, that doesn't mean for a nano second that depression/anxiety will be completely eliminated by the faithful use of CPAP! Think about what you are saying... even doctors (the good ones) don't report that, and it's nowhere that I can find. It's unrealistic... if everyone who had depression(and SA) ran oneout and got a CPAP machine, do you think that all of these people will be cured? Of course not! SA is just one factor among many that causes depression.



Human bodies tend to react the same way to sleep deprivation. It is not a "may" it is a documented "does". Not everyone gets depressed or anxiety over it immediately but your hormones and chemicals go out of balance after one night of sleep deprivation.
http://sleepjunkies.com/blog/sleep-appetite-regulation/


BS... that ain't what I'm trying to say. Okay... human bodies tend to react the same way to sleep deprivation, and your hormones and chemicals go out of balance after a night of sleep deprivation.

However, and I don't know how to say this in a different way, it could be that CPAP might possibly cure someone; but since so many factors play into D/A, and sleep apnea is only one of those factors, you simply can't make a statement that CPAP is the end all be all for depression. It just isn't.
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Post by 49er » Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:24 pm

Michelle-OH wrote:I think people also might be talking about different types of depression, i.e. if you have a chemical imbalance you may very well need meds for the rest of your life, as opposed to situational depression which is likely to improve as the situation improves, and allow you to come off meds.
Regarding chemical imbalances, you might want to read this article showing they are a myth:

http://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/a ... ed.0020392

Lacasse JR, Leo J (2005) Serotonin and Depression: A Disconnect between the Advertisements and the Scientific Literature. PLoS Med 2(12): e392. doi:10.1371/journal.pmed.0020392

And just folks know, I am not denying that people can experience serious depressions and that meds can help a percentage of people. But calling it a chemical imbalance has been proven false as this article will show.

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Post by Snoozeless » Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:04 pm

Sleepygirl84 I was just diagnosed with severe sleep apnea in December. I am 45. However, I have a low lying palate, so it's been with me all my life. I remember snoring so loudly as a teenager that I kept people in the house awake. And that's when I was thin!

I have two kids. I don't know what it feels like obviously to be pregnant and not have it, but I do know I was exhausted all the time. I have STILL not lost the baby weight, and I believe with the last I had mild postpartum depression. Throughout my pregnancies my blood pressure, sugar, etc., was fine. Both my kids were healthy--although I passed on my low lying palate to my youngest and she also has sleep apneaat 8 years old.

Of course everyone is different, and your OBGYN should be able to discuss this with you.

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Post by Lucyhere » Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:31 pm

WarmBodies wrote:
Lucyhere wrote:you simply can't make a statement that CPAP is the end all be all for depression.
I read through the entire thread, and no one has said this. Several of you use the forum to hoist yourself with your own farts.
It was insinuated! Do you even know the meaning of insinuated?
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Post by ChicagoGranny » Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:37 am

Snoozeless wrote:low lying palate
A low palatal arch is correlated with obstructive sleep apnea. Also, a long, low-hanging soft palate is correlated with OSA.

Snoozeless wrote: I passed on my low lying palate to my youngest and she also has sleep apneaat 8 years old.
She may not have to live with this the rest of her life.

I encourage you to have your daughter evaluated now by an orthodontist who has as a specialty treating sleep apnea with orthodontics. If you live in an urban area, such an orthodontist should not be too hard to find.

There is a lot that can be done with jaw and palate expanders. Just one extra millimeter of clearance can sometimes cure a patient of sleep apnea for life. The orthodontist will determine if treatment is appropriate and will recommend the best age to start treatment. If not 100% confident in the proposal, a second opinion would be a good thing to pursue.

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Post by Michelle-OH » Wed Apr 06, 2016 8:46 am

49er wrote:
Michelle-OH wrote:I think people also might be talking about different types of depression, i.e. if you have a chemical imbalance you may very well need meds for the rest of your life, as opposed to situational depression which is likely to improve as the situation improves, and allow you to come off meds.
Regarding chemical imbalances, you might want to read this article showing they are a myth:

http://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/a ... ed.0020392

Lacasse JR, Leo J (2005) Serotonin and Depression: A Disconnect between the Advertisements and the Scientific Literature. PLoS Med 2(12): e392. doi:10.1371/journal.pmed.0020392

And just folks know, I am not denying that people can experience serious depressions and that meds can help a percentage of people. But calling it a chemical imbalance has been proven false as this article will show.

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Interesting! Will read it when I can get time. I work with lots of nurses and social workers who have worked previously in the mental health system and they certainly seem to believe in chemical imbalances, so I'm interested to read this article. Lord knows it is scary how much paperwork crosses my desk on people with mental health issues and they may have 10 or more different MH diagnoses.

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Post by Lucyhere » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:54 pm

WarmBodies wrote:
Lucyhere wrote:It was insinuated! Do you even know the meaning of insinuated?
Yeah, it means something you made up to rail about, thereby boosting your poor little ego.
Aww tell me again... what is the meaning of insinuated?
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