Over night miracle relief

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Over night miracle relief

Post by Mainemagoo » Mon Feb 29, 2016 9:15 pm

Does anyone have a study that shows the percentage of cpap users that experience a life changing overnight result with the cpap?

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Re: Over night miracle relief

Post by LSAT » Mon Feb 29, 2016 9:18 pm

A life changing event overnight??? The only thing I can think of is death.

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Re: Over night miracle relief

Post by robysue » Mon Feb 29, 2016 9:19 pm

I don't know of any such studies.

Most studies of CPAP users focus on why so many new CPAPers fail to become fully compliant PAPers and how to get more new CPAPers to continue using their machine every night, all night for the long haul.

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Re: Over night miracle relief

Post by Mudrock63 » Tue Mar 01, 2016 5:32 am

I experienced an Aha moment leaving the titration sleep study. And have had a couple of mornings after successfully tweaking settings and achieved a better outcome. Yes, the therapy is changing my life, but it took me three months of study, careful tweaking, and reading and interacting on here to achieve results I would call life-changing.

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Re: Over night miracle relief

Post by Hang Fire » Tue Mar 01, 2016 7:30 am

LSAT wrote:A life changing event overnight??? The only thing I can think of is death.
Add to the list, "Wife left because she couldn't stand mask farts."

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Re: Over night miracle relief

Post by Mainemagoo » Tue Mar 01, 2016 10:05 am

I'm hoping this changes my life and I wake up refreshed.

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Re: Over night miracle relief

Post by BlackSpinner » Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:37 pm

Mainemagoo wrote:I'm hoping this changes my life and I wake up refreshed.
Start a daily journal now before you begin. Describe in detail what you are feeling mentally, physically and emotionally and how your current days go.

A lot of early changes with cpap therapy are subtle mood and energy changes and you may miss them if you aren't paying attention. Once a week look back to the beginning to see how you felt pre cpap. An example of this is before I started cpap therapy an add for a conference in the next city to me came to my email. I blew it off as too much trouble. Three weeks after starting cpap it came again and i was "Why didn't I sign up for that!?!!" so I did. Physically I was still a bit tired, no great miracles had happened but my outlook on life has shifted. I could really see that when I looked at my journalling for the month.

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Post by chunkyfrog » Tue Mar 01, 2016 4:56 pm

Not everyone has that experience.
That said, my morning headaches and bizarre nightmares ended the first night.
But it took months to notice a significant increase in energy and mental acuity.
My guess: most positive results do take time.
Such a survey would be prohibitively time-consuming and expensive; and who would finance it?
Most of us only care about our own results.
The success or failures of others have no bearing on our own.
Most of the failure rate is due to the wrong equipment, poor support, or lousy attitude.
Fix that, and you already have given yourself the best odds.

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Re: Over night miracle relief

Post by Mainemagoo » Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:12 pm

Thanks !

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Re: Over night miracle relief

Post by Mudrock63 » Wed Mar 02, 2016 4:53 pm

I am feeling much better overall physically and mentally. But no machine in the world is going to make me feel 20 years-old at 52. LOL.

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Re: Over night miracle relief

Post by Wulfman... » Wed Mar 02, 2016 8:03 pm

Mainemagoo wrote:I'm hoping this changes my life and I wake up refreshed.
As others have said, not many experience the "overnight" sensation. As I've said many times, it's "baby steps". Take one night at a time and the next thing you know, the time will fly and you'll be amazed by how much of it has passed.

But, it all depends on how "optimized" the person's therapy is. I've seen many folks struggle with poorly configured equipment and bad masks or mask fittings.......and that type of thing can make it take forever to feel good.


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Re: Over night miracle relief

Post by archangle » Thu Mar 03, 2016 2:02 pm

Mainemagoo wrote:Does anyone have a study that shows the percentage of cpap users that experience a life changing overnight result with the cpap?
Good question!

I've never seen a study on percent of overnight cures. I know many doctors seem to think it's an overnight cure. It is for quite a few people. From my experience reading here and other forums, many people have "apnea hangover or withdrawal" for a while even if the get the "mechanical" process right and eliminate apnea. Many others need some tweaking to eliminate their apnea. Others have a hard time sleeping with CPAP.

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Re: Over night miracle relief

Post by BlackSpinner » Thu Mar 03, 2016 2:17 pm

One can think of it as buying a house. Yes you now have a house but first you have to fix and clean the thing before you can be comfortable living there. Depending on how long it has been abandoned the fix up can take longer. If it is a new construction it may just need a thorough cleaning, if it is a "handyman special" it may need a years worth of renovations.

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Re: Over night miracle relief

Post by IDontSnoreISwear » Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:46 am

This doesn't sound like the kind of thing that would be studied clinically as the results you're talking about are subjective. If you look at the thread about "success stories" though, you'll find a lot of people talking about the life-changing nature of going from breathing only some of the time to breathing all of the time. Reason being (imo) because OXYGEN IS MAGIC!

For what it's worth, I had a home sleep study initially that showed frighteningly low O2 levels (as low as 60) so in between that study and the titration study I slept sitting up to avoid those extreme desaturations. (You can look at my earlier postings if you want the blow by blow -- that is a study in itself of the incompetence and lack of caring that seems to be pervasive in sleep medicine.) The result was that by the time I got to my titration study I had not lay down for many nights and was extraordinarily sleep-deprived.

So, yes. My "overnight miracle relief" actually happened -- AT THE TITRATION STUDY. The technician seemed to take forever to get all those wires on me because I couldn't wait to safely lie down and sleep! Once lying down I was OUT for the duration. The technician woke me five hours later to get me to try and sleep on my back, which I would do for a couple minutes then roll over to my side again while unconscious. This was the way my body had been doing for years, to prevent suffocation as my worst desats happened while on my back.

Those first five hours though? They were the best sleep I'd had in months -- probably years. When the tech turfed me out in the morning I said, only half-kidding, "Can't I please have a couple more hours with this machine?" It was that much of a relief.

Since I got my own machine my life has improved in every way. Sleep quality, emotional state, physical pain (my joints ached all the time before), attention span, ability to drive as far as I needed to without feeling like I was going to fall asleep (that was a biggie); ability to learn... EVERYTHING is better with beautiful, magical Oxygen.

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Re: Over night miracle relief

Post by IDontSnoreISwear » Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:54 am

Hey Mainemagoo! I'm a Mainer too -- if you're in Greater Portland there's a good chance we have the same sleep doc. Feel free to PM me if you want the lowdown on local sleep med providers and DMEs.

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