The Dark Side and Downsides of Melatonin

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Re: The Dark Side and Downsides of Melatonin

Post by LSAT » Fri Jan 01, 2016 3:58 pm

ChicagoGranny wrote:
LSAT wrote:Your article is 15 years old..lots of research since
Please cite some research that contradicts what is in that study.
You are certainly making a big deal out of a post pointing out a magazine article on Sleeping problems. I don't give a rats ass about what is in your study or the one in Consumer Reports. I don't agree or disagree with either. Readers can decide for themselves. By the way...you seem kind of cranky today...didn't sleep well last night?

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Re: The Dark Side and Downsides of Melatonin

Post by ChicagoGranny » Fri Jan 01, 2016 5:01 pm

LSAT wrote:I don't give a rats ass about what is in your study or the one in Consumer Reports.
LSAT wrote:I'm done.
You promised!

Happy New Year, LSAT!
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Re: The Dark Side and Downsides of Melatonin

Post by Sir NoddinOff » Fri Jan 01, 2016 5:34 pm

Just about any drug, supplement or indigestible substance you can think of has it's pros and cons. It's always a high-wire balancing act and there's no safety net. Less is best, IMO. That said, you've gotta do what you gotta do to get by. Sorry for all the sloppy metaphors, I seem to be thinking in metaphors today. Hey, it's New Year's Day, what'd you expect... I'm surprised I'm thinking at all

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Re: The Dark Side and Downsides of Melatonin

Post by BlackSpinner » Fri Jan 01, 2016 5:39 pm

Sir NoddinOff wrote:Just about any drug, supplement or indigestible substance you can think of has it's pros and cons. It's always a high-wire balancing act and there's no safety net. Less is best, IMO. That said, you've gotta do what you gotta do to get by. Sorry for all the sloppy metaphors, I seem to be thinking in metaphors today. Hey, it's New Year's Day, what'd you expect... I'm surprised I'm thinking at all
THIS! Even water is dangerous at high volumes!

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Re: The Dark Side and Downsides of Melatonin

Post by Sir NoddinOff » Fri Jan 01, 2016 5:42 pm

BlackSpinner wrote:
Sir NoddinOff wrote:Just about any drug, supplement or indigestible substance you can think of has it's pros and cons. It's always a high-wire balancing act and there's no safety net. Less is best, IMO. That said, you've gotta do what you gotta do to get by. Sorry for all the sloppy metaphors, I seem to be thinking in metaphors today. Hey, it's New Year's Day, what'd you expect... I'm surprised I'm thinking at all
THIS! Even water is dangerous at high volumes!
That's cuz fish s**t in it.

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Re: The Dark Side and Downsides of Melatonin

Post by Susie Kay » Fri Jan 01, 2016 6:39 pm

After my CPAP therapy was working well, I tried one mg melatonin based on recommendations in the forum. I worked at this for about six weeks, trying even half of a pill. That was a bad six weeks, and I finally threw the melatonin out.

My sleep was more messed up than ever, and it took about two weeks to get over the melatonin.

I am doing well now without any sleep aids. I have learned how to keep good sleep hygiene. That's better than pills.

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Re: The Dark Side and Downsides of Melatonin

Post by Heart Jumping » Fri Jan 01, 2016 7:10 pm

LSAT wrote:I know you always like the last word so..go ahead...I'm done.
LSAT wrote:You are certainly making a big deal out of a post pointing out a magazine....
According to the Farmers Almanac, the Internet average for breaking "I'm done here" promises is 7.23 hours, if only you could have held on for 2 more hours...

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Re: The Dark Side and Downsides of Melatonin

Post by Lucyhere » Fri Jan 01, 2016 8:07 pm

Heart Jumping wrote:
LSAT wrote:I know you always like the last word so..go ahead...I'm done.
LSAT wrote:You are certainly making a big deal out of a post pointing out a magazine....
According to the Farmers Almanac, the Internet average for breaking "I'm done here" promises is 7.23 hours, if only you could have held on for 2 more hours...
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Re: The Dark Side and Downsides of Melatonin

Post by ChicagoGranny » Sat Jan 02, 2016 10:00 am

LSAT messaged a link to an article (http://umm.edu/health/medical/altmed/su ... melatonin/) that puts a slightly more positive spin on melatonin. But there are just too many "suggests", "may", "in one study" and "in one animal study" for me. There are also many cautions and warnings. I will continue to recommend against melatonin for regular use.

If you have bad jet lag, you might want to try it for a night or two.

That brings up another point. Gramps, who traveled the globe for years on business, says his jet lag problems went away once he started using CPAP.
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Re: The Dark Side and Downsides of Melatonin

Post by ChicagoGranny » Sat Jan 02, 2016 10:57 am

Oh, I forgot to mention this important quote from the article LSAT provided.
the amount that our bodies normally produce (< 0.3 mg per day).

http://umm.edu/health/medical/altmed/su ... melatonin/
So, think about that when you are taking a 1.0 mg tablet. You are taking more than three times what your body normally produces of this powerful hormone.
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Re: The Dark Side and Downsides of Melatonin

Post by Noctuary » Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:24 am

I took 1.5 mg of Melatonin for years with great results. Only the sudden onset of sleep apnea made it ineffective. Last night I tried alcohol and Temazepam, but I still woke up after only a few hours sleep.

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Re: The Dark Side and Downsides of Melatonin

Post by ChicagoGranny » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:34 am

Noctuary wrote:Last night I tried alcohol and Temazepam
Ouch.
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