travel machine advice requested

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travel machine advice requested

Post by yubaz » Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:18 pm

When I travel I take only my Resmed S9 apap without the humidifier portion. I was looking at getting a 'travel' machine thinking they would be much smaller and much lighter. I am finding they are generally 4 inches longer than what I am using and the weight difference of the whole packages is much due to the brick that converts the machine to 9w from whatever is sent through US electrical wires. Does anyone know a lighter weight machine they would recommend or smaller one in size. Can anyone explain to me why the Resmed S9 is not built to be used in the US without the brick of a converter. Second question is clearly not important just a frustration. MANY THANKS.

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Re: travel machine advice requested 2nd effort

Post by yubaz » Mon Dec 28, 2015 11:30 am

Maybe more info.... The S9 asap only body is 3 14 tall, 5 1/2 by 6 inches rectangle. The 'travel" units all seem to be 10" by 6" and still 3" tall. Where am I going wrong? Does little just not exist which is what I think now. My kids are sure I am wrong, that little and light exist... but they are not users. And all the bodies seem to be attached to bricks either built into the machine or attached to it.
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Re: travel machine advice requested

Post by bill-e » Mon Dec 28, 2015 4:22 pm

I can only speak to the Z1 Auto. It's size is 6.5 x 3.45 x 2.25" and it weighs 10.4 oz. It is very small and light. The "brick" is likewise small and light at 4 x 1.75 x 1.25" plus cables and weighs almost nothing. If you have access to 12v all you would need is their cigarette adapter and no brick. I also have the power shell but it's pretty useless for me as I can't get more than 5 hours out of it at my pressure.

Size wise I can shove the Z1 into any backpack pocket and the brick into another. I tried breaking apart my PRS1 which when you measure it it seems small, but's it isn't. I will never travel with anything but my Z1 and I travel almost every week.

There are lots of threads about the comfort and noise of the travel CPAP's which because they have small motors they need to spin those motoras fast to produce the air. This creates noise which some folks cannot tolerate, not even with the Q-Tube. I personally find my Z1 Auto, HME and Q-tube to be as comfortable as my PRS1 and also as quiet.

Bill

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Re: travel machine advice requested

Post by archangle » Mon Dec 28, 2015 4:33 pm

yubaz wrote:When I travel I take only my Resmed S9 apap without the humidifier portion. I was looking at getting a 'travel' machine thinking they would be much smaller and much lighter. I am finding they are generally 4 inches longer than what I am using and the weight difference of the whole packages is much due to the brick that converts the machine to 9w from whatever is sent through US electrical wires. Does anyone know a lighter weight machine they would recommend or smaller one in size. Can anyone explain to me why the Resmed S9 is not built to be used in the US without the brick of a converter. Second question is clearly not important just a frustration. MANY THANKS.
There are many good engineering reasons for having the power be an external brick. One is size and weight of the the blower unit. It also helps eliminate heat. It's safer. It's easier to isolate the AC power from the internal power in terms of safety and power surges. Imagine pouring the humidifier water back into the blower unit if it has AC power. If the power supply fails, an external brick is easier to replace. Since the power supply can be bigger, it can be designed better than if you had to cram it into the blower unit.

Don't overestimate the size advantage of the travel CPAP machines. You still need to carry your hoses, masks, cords, case, etc.

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Re: travel machine advice requested

Post by Goofproof » Tue Dec 29, 2015 12:11 am

bill-e wrote:I can only speak to the Z1 Auto. It's size is 6.5 x 3.45 x 2.25" and it weighs 10.4 oz. It is very small and light. The "brick" is likewise small and light at 4 x 1.75 x 1.25" plus cables and weighs almost nothing. If you have access to 12v all you would need is their cigarette adapter and no brick. I also have the power shell but it's pretty useless for me as I can't get more than 5 hours out of it at my pressure.

Size wise I can shove the Z1 into any backpack pocket and the brick into another. I tried breaking apart my PRS1 which when you measure it it seems small, but's it isn't. I will never travel with anything but my Z1 and I travel almost every week.

There are lots of threads about the comfort and noise of the travel CPAP's which because they have small motors they need to spin those motoras fast to produce the air. This creates noise which some folks cannot tolerate, not even with the Q-Tube. I personally find my Z1 Auto, HME and Q-tubeū to be as comfortable as my PRS1 and also as quiet.

Bill
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Re: travel machine advice requested

Post by cant_sleep_in_nj » Tue Dec 29, 2015 5:42 am

the transcend has been working flawlessly for me for over a year. Travel weekly with it.

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Re: travel machine advice requested

Post by bill-e » Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:30 am

cant_sleep_in_nj wrote:the transcend has been working flawlessly for me for over a year. Travel weekly with it.
Yea, same here, 121 times on a plane this year and I cant count how many times my backpack fell to the ground while I was pulling it on my roller....but I wasn't going to argue

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Re: travel machine advice requested

Post by jonny515 » Tue Dec 29, 2015 12:16 pm

At some point I want one, just seems like I go on trips enough (at least once a month average), but sometimes in a car.
Don't think it would matter much for the car. So thanks for all the info.

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Re: travel machine advice requested

Post by bill-e » Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:23 pm

jonny515 wrote:At some point I want one, just seems like I go on trips enough (at least once a month average), but sometimes in a car.
Don't think it would matter much for the car. So thanks for all the info.
Yep they're great for planes and camping etc but if you do a lot of car travel then it's no big deal to use a full size unit. Even if you decide to use a full size unit I'd consifer getting a second one for travel. I cant tell you how often I get up at 3 am to head to the airport or get home after midnight. My travel unit stays packed and I just crawl into/out of bed and use my bedsize unit. Keeping the travel unit packed, along with a second mask, hose etc means you'll never forget an accessory. Just my 2 cents from experience.

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Re: travel machine advice requested

Post by yubaz » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:03 pm

Thank you all for the help and the explanation about the power converter brick. The information and your willingness to share your experience was very helpful.