CBD Medical Marijuana & Seizures

[Starlette]

Meletonin....Good or bad

Doesn't do anything for me, but I don't see this as completely serious. Obviously anything with an effect is going to have side effects in some people, but perhaps the Big Pharma is frightened if something low cost might be as effective as meds in some people.

I've seen the same stuff for medical cannabis. These children taking medical marijuana for something like 300 seizures a month, and some doctor will say "We don't know the long term effects fo this." (yeah well what about the 20 anti-convulsants the kid was taking-- were you worried about them?)

TO: Jonny515
I hope you don't mind me doing a spinoff from your post.

For those who are suffering from seizures, what is your take on using medical marijuana for seizures?

Starlette

[Julie]

I think it might depend on what causes the seizures (and what your neurologist?) says.

[Cathyann]

Julie's post nails it, we all have different triggers. As far as mj goes, I'm a recreational user. I've had seizures during a time of abstinence and also while being a frequent user so I'm guessing marijuana is not a trigger for me. I'm a big mj advocate and agree about big pharma feeling nervous. They want the big bucks and want to push their meds on us. I hate the side effects I get from my prescriptions but I guess it's better than seizing..or is it?? Marijuana really does help a lot of people with many different ailments, can be grown at home easily, etc....

On another note, there has been a corralation between OSA and epilepsy.

[oncomingspork]

There are a few types of epilepsy where CBD is basically the only thing that gives the person their life back. I'm absolutely in favor of them getting access to it for that. And I think there needs to be more growing of it because the high-CBD strains are long grow, low yield species and the recreational growers are more interested in high-yield, short grow strains which are high in THC.

I mean, don't get me wrong, a little THC stops my panic attacks cold, which is GREAT. But for a migraine or seizure, CBD is where it's at.

[jonny515]

Not at all! I do have seizures and am taking CBD oil for sleep (not nearly enough though, stuff is pricey as all get out-- though legal in most states.) OTOH, I have not really tried taking it for the seizures. My seizures are under control with Tegretol, and it would present a difficult situation for traveling. I found out today though that my PA does not oppose it, only thing that she was concerned about was various brands that basically have no CBD oil content. The anti-seizure dose is good size, though obviously less for kids. I do know that it is being used to treat seizures in adults. But the excitement has really been about the use with kids with extreme seizures and no seizure control.

CBD itself is a relaxant and effective for sleep, but not quite like somethign like Ambien. It relaxes you but I sometimes really need something that kind of hits you over the head. New Mexico has legal medical marijuana but insomnia is not one of the conditions. For someone like me the THC might be useful.

[Cathyann]

Is medical mj Legal in New Mexico for epilepsy?

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[jonny515]

Yes. There are maybe 15 conditions and that's one. I think the seizures have to be uncontrolled though. The law is quite strict and tends towards conditions not very well controllable otherwise-- severe pain, cancer (vomiting and nausea). It wouldn't work for me to try to get it that way, too bad.

Is medical mj Legal in New Mexico for epilepsy?

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[Starlette]

Here's the deal:

For the old timers, back in 2012, I told you all about the year from hell. As a result, the first episode was Transient Global Amnesia; 2nd) Seizures and Panic Attacks.
NOTE: If you'd like to know what Transient Global Amnesia looks like, go to youtube and watch the video, "Is It Tuesday Yet?" I give it 5 stars.

This past September, I started Taekwondo. I DO NOT want anything to hinder my participation.

Current Situation 2016:
Father-in-law has cancer, which under the chemotherapy and radiation is doing quite well.
Mom is going to surgery for her neck (slipped disc which has tethered her spinal cord). I'm guessing there is going to be some caretaking on my part.

Combine all this: Because of these factors, I can already foresee some high stress. I do not want to have a seizure or have severe panic attacks. Nor, do I want to be deprived from Taekwondo for 3 months due to losing driving privileges. For me, there is alot at stake here. Went to PCP asking about this. Bottom line: With the current meds I'm one, I should be ok. In addition, if I get too stressed out, take the ativan as needed. Do you all know about ativan? It is a narcotic. I gave this option a "no" vote.

Yesterday, I went to a medical marijuana "doctor". He knows whats going on with me physically and the current meds I'm taking. One that note, he prescribed me edibles and CBD to smoke. As a result, I applied for my purple card. This doctor also gave me a referral to another doctor that believes in medical marijuana when dealing with seizures. He has stood up to the Medical board in favor of medical marijuana for seizures.

Starlette

[jonny515]

BTW, my PA originally thought I had CSA due to having epilepsy. However, I didn't (AFAIK) have central events. My seizures are controlled but not "cured". One time I was on vacation and forgot about half my epilepsy drugs. I started feeling very strange and had to go find a CVS pronto. But alas it is not an option and I think we aren't really too far (in NM) from legal recreational use. But the medical rules are rigid. I also have fairly severe anxiety in the daytime, but no for that one too.

BTW, I didn't know this, but in NM any doctor can prescribe/give you a medical cannabis card, but of course, you have to be qualified to get one under the law. She sort of shook her head about the okay to give me Ambien but not cannabis thing.

BTW, Realm of Caring has a list you can be on, where you can get CBD oil in all but 3-4 states (Florida is one, can't recall others) for something like half price. So the next time my bottle is nearly finished i plan to get it that way. I have CBD oil to vape, but have yet to try it. I've heard the vaping works MUCH better for anxiety than insomnia.

[archangle]

I do get a laugh out of the medical marijuana fanatics. If MegaPharmCo had discovered a weed, studied it, got FDA approval, and was using it to produce a smokable treatment for seizures, nausea, glaucoma, etc. and made 1/10th the things that are claimed for MJ, the people now advocating MJ would be the ones who would be screaming about the horrible chemicals MegaPharmCo is selling.

[BlackSpinner]

I do get a laugh out of the medical marijuana fanatics. If MegaPharmCo had discovered a weed, studied it, got FDA approval, and was using it to produce a smokable treatment for seizures, nausea, glaucoma, etc. and made 1/10th the things that are claimed for MJ, the people now advocating MJ would be the ones who would be screaming about the horrible chemicals MegaPharmCo is selling.

You don't need to smoke it. There was also no research allowed for a long time. All to protect the pulp and paper industry.

[archangle]

I do get a laugh out of the medical marijuana fanatics. If MegaPharmCo had discovered a weed, studied it, got FDA approval, and was using it to produce a smokable treatment for seizures, nausea, glaucoma, etc. and made 1/10th the things that are claimed for MJ, the people now advocating MJ would be the ones who would be screaming about the horrible chemicals MegaPharmCo is selling.

You don't need to smoke it. There was also no research allowed for a long time. All to protect the pulp and paper industry.

Yeah, I thought of that, but the sentence was already a disaster. The nutters would be against it, anyway, if it was FDA approved, purified, and legal.

I think the tobacco industry probably had more to do with it, at least during the original Reefer Madness era. There was also supposedly some anti-Mexican prejudice, according to some.

[jonny515]

I am totally NOT an anti-medications person (take quite a number actually). But I think the cannabis is promising in a number of areas. The kids with the seizures are particularly interesting. Don't know how much of that will be proven once they can study it.

The CBD oil is interesting for insomnia or anxiety, doesn't have a huge kick like something like Ambien.

The thing re: Big Pharma is they make huge amounts of cash that stays in a few hands and the FDA is not really purely an enforcement agency anymore.