It's all about the Bullies

[Lucyhere]

In my years as a journalist I have noted there are those people who are able to speak and write with great ease, class and sophistication; while others toss about curse words and childish cartoons. This is because they have no idea how to create a simple sentence. Their command of (for purposes of this article) the English language, is questionable at best. They have no idea how to express themselves. Being articulate is beyond their understanding or ability. They are the bullies.

To cover up their inadequacies, they attempt to show off by belittling others with childish one-liners; at the same time attempting to solicit followers. They believe themselves to be clever when instead they are cowardly and uncultured, all the while hiding behind a computer screen. People don't generally know one another on internet forums. Who they claim to be and their name is inconsequential. A help forum is to help people. The only thing that needs to be known is the issue that brought them there. Additional information is not needed and serves no purpose. What is crucial is how they address one another; how the question is asked and even more important, the way in which it is answered.

It's been found that the majority of people who hang around on help forums long after they have received the information they need, have no understanding that their mentality is that of cult culture and they are identical to the bullies one sees on television or reads about in newspapers. In this case, they use vulgar words and innuendos, instead of guns or knives. Their aim is to intimidate in the hopes of having people join their cult. Join with them or you might find yourself on the outside, thus becoming the subject of their bullying and intimidation. Many in this cult are unhappy in their everyday lives and find enjoyment in this cult type culture. Interestingly, they know precisely what they want to accomplish and who they want to join forces with them. They are the bullies.

Then there are the others, a/k/a the bullied. Those people generally come (to a forum) with good intentions and get blindsighted. Instead of surveying the atmosphere and opting out, they believe they can fix it, which seldom happens. When they attempt to be civil, they are met with intimidation and tasteless remarks, and the cycle continues until it finally reaches a point of forum hysteria.

This in no way includes those genuine people who remain on forums to pay it forward. The differences between a cult member and someone who remains to pay it forward are immense and almost immediately noticeable. Generally, the pay it forward types do not intimidate or belittle; instead they are welcoming and happy to share the wisdom they possess.

Bullies on the other hand thoroughly enjoy their stay and tend to hang around for years. The internet becomes a best friend and here the bullies find a false sense of power. The internet is where they can lash out and not be found out, which is the primary reason that bullying exists on any forum.

[Gasper62]

This, I take it, is why you feel compelled to veil your previous identities on this board............. isn't it milking time yet ?


BTW, any true "journalist" would absolutely not write "blindsighted" in place of the correct, "blindsided". Your slip is showing, dearie.

[tiredgrl]

People, please stop replying to this person. He / she will give up and go away if no one replies. Keep replying and the circus goes on and on....

[flightco]

In my years as a journalist I have noted there are those people who are able to speak and write with great ease, class and sophistication; while others toss about curse words and childish cartoons. This is because they have no idea how to create a simple sentence. Their command of (for purposes of this article) the English language, is questionable at best. They have no idea how to express themselves. Being articulate is beyond their understanding or ability. They are the bullies.

To cover up their inadequacies, they attempt to show off by belittling others with childish one-liners; at the same time attempting to solicit followers. They believe themselves to be clever when instead they are cowardly and uncultured, all the while hiding behind a computer screen. People don't generally know one another on internet forums. Who they claim to be and their name is inconsequential. A help forum is to help people. The only thing that needs to be known is the issue that brought them there. Additional information is not needed and serves no purpose. What is crucial is how they address one another; how the question is asked and even more important, the way in which it is answered.

It's been found that the majority of people who hang around on help forums long after they have received the information they need, have no understanding that their mentality is that of cult culture and they are identical to the bullies one sees on television or reads about in newspapers. In this case, they use vulgar words and innuendos, instead of guns or knives. Their aim is to intimidate in the hopes of having people join their cult. Join with them or you might find yourself on the outside, thus becoming the subject of their bullying and intimidation. Many in this cult are unhappy in their everyday lives and find enjoyment in this cult type culture. Interestingly, they know precisely what they want to accomplish and who they want to join forces with them. They are the bullies.

Then there are the others, a/k/a the bullied. Those people generally come (to a forum) with good intentions and get blindsighted. Instead of surveying the atmosphere and opting out, they believe they can fix it, which seldom happens. When they attempt to be civil, they are met with intimidation and tasteless remarks, and the cycle continues until it finally reaches a point of forum hysteria.

This in no way includes those genuine people who remain on forums to pay it forward. The differences between a cult member and someone who remains to pay it forward are immense and almost immediately noticeable. Generally, the pay it forward types do not intimidate or belittle; instead they are welcoming and happy to share the wisdom they possess.

Bullies on the other hand thoroughly enjoy their stay and tend to hang around for years. The internet becomes a best friend and here the bullies find a false sense of power. The internet is where they can lash out and not be found out, which is the primary reason that bullying exists on any forum.

I think it is interesting that n2it got ahold of Lucy's password, probably something to do with IP addresses.

[Wulfman...]

So, what are you saying? That NOBODY should stay beyond......oh, say......6 months......a year?
NO "old timers" or people who have some recollections of what's happened here over the years or anybody with some reasonable amount of experience? How is anybody with a few months experience going to answer all of these questions?
But, I'd be in favor of that. Heck, I've tried to leave just about every year I've been here. However, I guess the addiction to helping people kept getting the best of me.

Would you consider me to be a "bully" if someone was ripping into you and I let them have it and stood up for you?
What about the people who come in here with an "attitude" right off the bat and badmouth this therapy, the owners of the forum and CPAP.COM? Some people seem to have a chip on their shoulders and no amount of nice talk is going to calm them down.

This situation with the thread about the "Chat Room" is one prime example. The OP asked a question, didn't like the answers he got and went totally off the rails badmouthing the folks who answered with their honest opinions and experiences.

Here's a few others that inhabit forums, too.

http://www.flamewarriorsguide.com/


Den

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[chunkyfrog]

Some people are still bitter that they have this disorder, and lash out at anything handy (in the midst of their denial).
It doesn't make sense, but denial is unreasonable by nature.
Others may be former employees of defunct or declining DME's. They blame informed patients for their woes,
instead of those really responsible for the disaster the industry has become.
As for trolls, I have no explanation, as it pains my mind to even think of them.

[metsfan302]

Here's a few others that inhabit forums, too.

http://www.flamewarriorsguide.com/


Den

OMG I never knew so many diff types existed!!! The cartoons and explanations of each are great!@

[kteague]

The differences between a cult member and someone who remains to pay it forward are immense and almost immediately noticeable. Generally, the pay it forward types do not intimidate or belittle; instead they are welcoming and happy to share the wisdom they possess.

Maybe this forum is an exception. Time and time again I've seen the same people who can be rough also be very generous in trying to help - sometimes even to the person they once replied harshly to. I don't like the ugliness that happens either, but I have been helped immeasurably by some individuals who have a reputation for being rough. I truly feel the vast majority are here to help. Some may be short on patience or maybe burnt out, but I think it is few and far between those who are here solely with ill intent. Or maybe I'm in a cult and have been brainwashed.

Hey Den - those internet personalities in your link are a hoot! Had to laugh when I saw glimpses of myself (and others).

[flightco]

Hey Den - those internet personalities in your link are a hoot! Had to laugh when I saw glimpses of myself (and others).

+1

[BlackSpinner]

In my years as a journalist I have noted there are those people who are able to speak and write with great ease, class and sophistication; while others toss about curse words and childish cartoons. This is because they have no idea how to create a simple sentence. Their command of (for purposes of this article) the English language, is questionable at best. They have no idea how to express themselves. Being articulate is beyond their understanding or ability. They are the bullies.

Ability to use a particular language does not indicate anything except ...... ability to use a particular language. You write so elegantly but are such a bully and twit.

This in no way includes those genuine people who remain on forums to pay it forward. The differences between a cult member and someone who remains to pay it forward are immense and almost immediately noticeable. Generally, the pay it forward types do not intimidate or belittle; instead they are welcoming and happy to share the wisdom they possess.
Bullies on the other hand thoroughly enjoy their stay and tend to hang around for years. The internet becomes a best friend and here the bullies find a false sense of power. The internet is where they can lash out and not be found out, which is the primary reason that bullying exists on any forum.

You are looking for a mythical church with saints- or a site where people are paid to answer questions.

I don't think you know what the word bully really means. It is not someone you disagree with or someone who does not write in the style you prefer.

[CaptainRaven40]

So, what are you saying? That NOBODY should stay beyond......oh, say......6 months......a year?
NO "old timers" or people who have some recollections of what's happened here over the years or anybody with some reasonable amount of experience? How is anybody with a few months experience going to answer all of these questions?
But, I'd be in favor of that. Heck, I've tried to leave just about every year I've been here. However, I guess the addiction to helping people kept getting the best of me.

Would you consider me to be a "bully" if someone was ripping into you and I let them have it and stood up for you?
What about the people who come in here with an "attitude" right off the bat and badmouth this therapy, the owners of the forum and CPAP.COM? Some people seem to have a chip on their shoulders and no amount of nice talk is going to calm them down.

This situation with the thread about the "Chat Room" is one prime example. The OP asked a question, didn't like the answers he got and went totally off the rails badmouthing the folks who answered with their honest opinions and experiences.

Here's a few others that inhabit forums, too.

http://www.flamewarriorsguide.com/


Den

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Don't leave!!! I have just gotten used to joking with you and really appreciate all of the help you give. You can't try and want to leave every year. We need you!

[Sheriff Buford]

Oh man... here we go again... dang.... well, at least the break was nice.

Sheriff

[Wulfman...]

The differences between a cult member and someone who remains to pay it forward are immense and almost immediately noticeable. Generally, the pay it forward types do not intimidate or belittle; instead they are welcoming and happy to share the wisdom they possess.

Maybe this forum is an exception. Time and time again I've seen the same people who can be rough also be very generous in trying to help - sometimes even to the person they once replied harshly to. I don't like the ugliness that happens either, but I have been helped immeasurably by some individuals who have a reputation for being rough. I truly feel the vast majority are here to help. Some may be short on patience or maybe burnt out, but I think it is few and far between those who are here solely with ill intent. Or maybe I'm in a cult and have been brainwashed.

Hey Den - those internet personalities in your link are a hoot! Had to laugh when I saw glimpses of myself (and others).

Were you thinking of "Snoredog" when you wrote that?

And, that's a possibility, too......


Den (Who hasn't been able to leave yet, so why think about it again now.)

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[Julie]

I think (for reasons not going to go into here) that it might be a good idea to not assume this poster is EMS, regardless of history. There are others who've gone and returned, and maybe we should be thinking about them (as well). Assumptions can cause all kinds of trouble!

[kteague]

Were you thinking of "Snoredog" when you wrote that? ...
Den (Who hasn't been able to leave yet, so why think about it again now.).

Yes, Snoredog, for one. He tried very hard to be patient with me. I could almost feel his struggle. He got a little snippy with me once. I was a bit taken aback but had the benefit of first having had tons of help from him to offset it. And I was being a whiny butt.

I have no plans on leaving. If I'm missing for very long, send out the dogs.