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Re: Chat Forum

Post by Lucyhere » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:15 pm

kteague wrote:
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flightco wrote:I is all becoming very clear now; yes I understand why you would want to come back with a different name
You haven't the slightest idea who I am -- only a few people who have been on this forum at least six plus years would know me. You are doing that assuming thing again.
Well daggone it Lucy. I was all prepared to walk away from this thread but now you've got me curious. I would have guessed someone more recent, but if it's really been more than 6 years, I'm drawing a blank. Generally repeat personalities tend to reveal themselves over time. Maybe after a while some old familiar name will cross my mind.

Hi Kathy... almost sure I remember your name. Nice talkin' to you again and hope things are going well with you.

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Re: Chat Forum

Post by Lucyhere » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:18 pm

Wulfman... wrote:
kteague wrote:
Lucyhere wrote:
flightco wrote:I is all becoming very clear now; yes I understand why you would want to come back with a different name
You haven't the slightest idea who I am -- only a few people who have been on this forum at least six plus years would know me. You are doing that assuming thing again.
Well daggone it Lucy. I was all prepared to walk away from this thread but now you've got me curious. I would have guessed someone more recent, but if it's really been more than 6 years, I'm drawing a blank. Generally repeat personalities tend to reveal themselves over time. Maybe after a while some old familiar name will cross my mind.
I've got a few names in mind. But, I'm not going to embarrass myself by throwing out the wrong one(s).
I know one in particular that used bi-level therapy, as does "Lucy".


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Re: Chat Forum

Post by Wulfman... » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:21 pm

Lucyhere wrote:Den -- are you gonna get any sleep tonight?
Well, if you'd send me a PM, maybe I'd sleep better. I DO keep secrets, too.


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Re: Chat Forum

Post by Lucyhere » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:35 pm

Wulfman... wrote:
Lucyhere wrote:Den -- are you gonna get any sleep tonight?
Well, if you'd send me a PM, maybe I'd sleep better. I DO keep secrets, too.


Den

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I know you do! You've proven that. But, it's the internet. Does it matter who I am? I don't know who you are. Not many of us actually "know" one another. I remember thinking that you were very nice to me and answered my questions -- and that's really all I need to know about you.
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Re: Chat Forum

Post by Wulfman... » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:42 pm

Lucyhere wrote:
Wulfman... wrote:
Lucyhere wrote:Den -- are you gonna get any sleep tonight?
Well, if you'd send me a PM, maybe I'd sleep better. I DO keep secrets, too.


Den

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I know you do! You've proven that. But, it's the internet. Does it matter who I am? I don't know who you are. Not many of us actually "know" one another. I remember thinking that you were very nice to me and answered my questions -- and that's really all I need to know about you.
No, it doesn't matter. But thanks for that reply. You eliminated at least one person from my list of "usual suspects".

Glad to have you back on the forum, anyway. Hope you get your therapy tweaked.


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Re: Chat Forum

Post by Lucyhere » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:50 pm

Wulfman... wrote:No, it doesn't matter. But thanks for that reply. You eliminated at least one person from my list of "usual suspects".

Glad to have you back on the forum, anyway. Hope you get your therapy tweaked.


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Re: Chat Forum

Post by CaptainRaven40 » Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:52 am

Hmmmmm. Maybe Lucy is actually Wulfman! And it is some kind of plot to bring down the whole CPAP community!!! But it probably isn't. Probably just two nice people getting help and giving help. But the first theory could be true!

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Re: Chat Forum

Post by BleepingBeauty » Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:09 am

CaptainRaven40 wrote:Hmmmmm. Maybe Lucy is actually Wulfman! And it is some kind of plot to bring down the whole CPAP community!!! But it probably isn't. Probably just two nice people getting help and giving help. But the first theory could be true!
Nope, Wulfman is Den; always has been, and I trust always will be. Lucyhere, on the other hand, is yet another new ID of ems (the fifth one she's had that I'm aware of - ems, happydaz, dream4sleep, Worldwar2, and now Lucy; maybe there are more). She likes to demonstrate hypocrisy and show her ass, and then she makes a new ID and pretends to be a newbie. At least she admitted that she's not really new this time, but her posts are as transparent as ever, IMO.

Cheap thrills, I guess. Sad, really.
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Re: Chat Forum

Post by CaptainRaven40 » Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:28 am

BleepingBeauty wrote:
CaptainRaven40 wrote:Hmmmmm. Maybe Lucy is actually Wulfman! And it is some kind of plot to bring down the whole CPAP community!!! But it probably isn't. Probably just two nice people getting help and giving help. But the first theory could be true!
Nope, Wulfman is Den; always has been, and I trust always will be. Lucyhere, on the other hand, is yet another new ID of ems (the fifth one she's had that I'm aware of - ems, happydaz, dream4sleep, Worldwar2, and now Lucy; maybe there are more). She likes to demonstrate hypocrisy and show her ass, and then she makes a new ID and pretends to be a newbie. At least she admitted that she's not really new this time, but her posts are as transparent as ever, IMO.

Cheap thrills, I guess. Sad, really.
I was just joking around. Wulfman has been great towards me and I have read a lot of his stuff and he has helped me. As far as Lucy goes. Nothing but nice things towards me.

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Re: Chat Forum

Post by Lucyhere » Fri Nov 06, 2015 11:42 am

BleepingBeauty wrote:
CaptainRaven40 wrote:Hmmmmm. Maybe Lucy is actually Wulfman! And it is some kind of plot to bring down the whole CPAP community!!! But it probably isn't. Probably just two nice people getting help and giving help. But the first theory could be true!
Nope, Wulfman is Den; always has been, and I trust always will be. Lucyhere, on the other hand, is yet another new ID of ems (the fifth one she's had that I'm aware of - ems, happydaz, dream4sleep, Worldwar2, and now Lucy; maybe there are more). She likes to demonstrate hypocrisy and show her ass, and then she makes a new ID and pretends to be a newbie. At least she admitted that she's not really new this time, but her posts are as transparent as ever, IMO.

Cheap thrills, I guess. Sad, really.
Oh, hi there Bleeping Beauty -- wrong, but I did read some posts from those people and your responses. You are just as miserable as I remember you. I never said one word to you five years ago because of your loud mouth... just a lonely, sad woman and I'm certain many think of you that way. Just put you on my foe list -- no one needs people like you in their lives.
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Re: Chat Forum

Post by BleepingBeauty » Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:20 pm

Lucyhere wrote:
BleepingBeauty wrote:
CaptainRaven40 wrote:Hmmmmm. Maybe Lucy is actually Wulfman! And it is some kind of plot to bring down the whole CPAP community!!! But it probably isn't. Probably just two nice people getting help and giving help. But the first theory could be true!
Nope, Wulfman is Den; always has been, and I trust always will be. Lucyhere, on the other hand, is yet another new ID of ems (the fifth one she's had that I'm aware of - ems, happydaz, dream4sleep, Worldwar2, and now Lucy; maybe there are more). She likes to demonstrate hypocrisy and show her ass, and then she makes a new ID and pretends to be a newbie. At least she admitted that she's not really new this time, but her posts are as transparent as ever, IMO.

Cheap thrills, I guess. Sad, really.
Oh, hi there Bleeping Beauty -- wrong, but I did read some posts from those people and your responses. You are just as miserable as I remember you. I never said one word to you five years ago because of your loud mouth... just a lonely, sad woman and I'm certain many think of you that way. Just put you on my foe list -- no one needs people like you in their lives.
There you go, projecting again. Still as ghostly as ever... As to my "loud mouth," it only just appeared on the forum this year (not five years ago) - first w/r/t my Dad's awful DME and then, a few months ago w/r/t Enchanter and all his drama; and yep, I gave YOU some shit, too (deservedly so) at the same time. I've found that speaking the truth will set you free. Try it sometime.

Maybe you had another ID before ems (who joined in 2011). Like your personality(ies), your math is warped.
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Re: Chat Forum

Post by Gasper62 » Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:36 pm

n2it wrote:Normally, I ignore keyboard warriors but last night, I simply couldn’t help myself because one of the initial replies to my post was (and is) incredibly ignorant and asinine. The definition of asinine by the way is: “extremely or utterly foolish.”

When I asked why the chat feature is not being utilized the reply at issue that was received was: “Most people have better things to do.” So, because you are apparently a board “veteran” you are the self-appointed spokesman for everyone? And how dare a “newbie” call out a veteran of the board? (Newbies – I’ll address that term in a moment).

I’m not a narcissist by any definition of the word. But let’s get something straight; I am a very successful, middle aged man, very educated (and proud of it), successfully raised a child on my own (VERY proud of that), and have performed research for a number of years for very large companies. I live for empirical data.

After posting my question last night more than ten people, by my count, entered the chat room within five minutes of the post. The majority of which were guests to the forum. In fact, if you would take the time to notice the majority of the users on this forum are in fact guests who do not register. But that follows the normal trends of most free Internet forums.

The success of effective communication through the utilization of chat forums is overwhelming and is backed by numerous peer reviewed research papers, which includes of course empirical data. It is the very reason that almost all large (and even small) companies today include chat options on their websites with live representatives just a click away. All of your credit card issuers, your banks, etc… use this option and for a very good reason. It works!

I have no issue with text-only forums either as they offer a great resource tool. But here is the problem with text only forums (and I am going to use this forum as a prime example). Just a few minutes ago, I searched a specific product using the search engine on the site. The search returned 45 separate threads dating back several years. Actually, that search brought more returns, I just stopped counting at 45.

I reviewed numerous threads and what I found, which is typical, is what one will also find listed as a negative connotation in many research papers concerning this same subject. And that is that the search engine return results are based upon specific pre-programmed “key” words. As a result, there were numerous threads that were returned that actually had nothing to do with what I was attempting to research.

Now for a “newbie” (a term that some of you “veterans” so blatantly and negatively use) that can result in hours of research in an attempt to locate the answer that one is actually looking for. This of course is why these people start a brand new thread, only to have one of the so-called “veterans” to reply so arrogantly with, “try searching for the topic before posting.”

Proper etiquette would dictate that if you don’t like the topic of a new thread that you simply ignore it and move on. Let somebody else answer the question and you can go enjoy your morning or evening tea.

Just like the thread that I started concerning the chat function last night. (In fact, several members and visitors did not even realize that there was a chat function until reading my post.) But I guess some of you “veterans” of this board don’t have to follow that golden rule (you know being respectful and polite) and we “newbies” should just sit quietly with our tails between our legs. Not my style.

This forum is very fortunate that it has a chat function capability already implemented. And because it did not work for some of you “veterans” years ago does not mean it can’t work now with many fresh minds and ideas being circulated throughout the forums. At the beginning there was a literally a handful of you. Today because of SA awareness hundreds of thousands of people are being diagnosed with this debilitating condition yearly.

With that being said, I offer my suggestion and a relatively easy fix to the repetitive posts on this board. I would suggest to the administrator of this board (if in fact there is one as they have never answered my PM) is that a chat schedule be developed and implemented for members and guests alike. And if one wants to join and learn or offer their personal thoughts and knowledge than great. If not, than stay the hell out. That’s a pretty simple concept isn’t it?

There are many ways to develop said schedule. First and foremost there needs to be an active board administrator who then can then solicit other members to act as chat administrators. So as an example; there could be a regular chat forum held on Mondays at different intervals to account for time zone differences, which would discuss nothing but for example “mask leaks”. That topic alone would probably result in an incredible reduction of the endless threads on this board, which discusses the exact same mask leak issues.

Another night could be product comparisons. Another night could be sleep issues with partners, CPAP and surgery, etc… Now if I were the administrator of this board, I would simply categorize the chat sessions by the number of “hits” using the internal database of this forum that corresponds to each specific topic and those would be your daily chats topics. Take the top seven and that would be your first week. If there are more than seven topics than run the sessions for as many days as necessary and start then repeat. (There are many marketing firms that charge an awful lot of money for the advice that I am now offering for free.)

Now to speak directly to some of you so-called “veterans” do you see how we newbies can use our critical thinking skills? It’s called improving on ideas and while not remaining stagnant and stuck in the past. The Internet evolves on a daily basis.

Now to address the term “newbie” as was used as some kind of a negative connotation in this thread: Because I am a “newbie” to this board does not mean that I am ignorant to the topic on hand. For the last several months, I have studied everything that I could find on SA and CPAP that time would permit (which led me to this very board). This of course was a result of my diagnosis with severe SA.

After reading hundreds of posts, I can say with absolute confidence that I am more educated on certain criteria concerning SA and CPAP than some of you so-called board veterans. I have read some really disturbing advice coming from some of you. Especially the replies whereby you tell a “newbie” to ignore their doctor’s advice and change their prescribed settings when you have absolutely no clue as to why the physician implemented those individual settings in the first place. That is not only dangerous and egregious advice but you have probably made yourself liable in some states if in fact someone actually takes your advice and suffers ill consequences as a result.

In closing, there are many veterans on this board who do in fact offer great advice and do a wonderful service to others. And I personally thank you for that. I also would like to recognize Pugsy as being one of those veterans for which I am speaking about. You will never find a negative response from her. But what really impresses me with her is that when she doesn’t know something she states it, “I’m sorry, I don’t know the answer…” Or she just doesn’t join the thread. That’s a real board veteran.

Finally, to you Mr. or Mrs. LSAT, I also took the time to research your many postings. And I found quite the pattern with your responses on many threads. I’m not going to make you look more asinine than you are by copying and pasting them to this thread but it seems as though you suffer from some personality issues. Maybe it’s your CPAP settings…
However; my advice to you sir or madam is to simply ignore the threads where you have nothing of value to add. And this forum will be a much happier place for it.

To the rest of the forum members, my apologies for the lengthy response but sometimes in this world people need a reality check. There are just way too many negative people in this world today.

I will look forward to speaking with many if you again in the future either through threads, chat, or PM’s. And I hope that if there is a board administrator that they will consider the idea of scheduled chat sessions with specific topics. If you’re reading this please contact me and I will volunteer some of my time to the cause.

As a final note, I will not be replying to any of you cyber bullies or keyboard tough-guys now or in the future. My time is much too valuable.

Have a wonderful evening and good luck to all of you.


Uhhh, why you not post this long-winded pontification on chat ? Megalomaniacal much ? Putz. BTW.... here's a pertinent definition for ya:


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1. to speak or behave in a pompous or dogmatic manner.
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Re: Chat Forum

Post by Gasper62 » Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:40 pm

Lucyhere wrote:
flightco wrote:I is all becoming very clear now; yes I understand why you would want to come back with a different name
You haven't the slightest idea who I am -- only a few people who have been on this forum at least six plus years would know me. You are doing that assuming thing again.

What ? Too taxing to just be yourself and to own it ? How very mature !

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Re: Chat Forum

Post by n2it » Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:20 pm

zoocrewphoto wrote:
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zoocrewphoto wrote:I have been here 3 years and never bothered with chat. To me, the value of the internet (forums email) is that I can use it when I want, at odd hours, and I don't have to be online (awake, whatever) at the same time as the people I want to communicate with. I am a severe night owl, out of sync with much of the world near me. I can come home and login at midnight and read posts and emails. I can reply at my convenience and know that I will probably have replies again when I get up (in the afternoon). Every "night" before I go to bed, I get emails from a friend who is an early bird on the east coast.

To me, using chat is like using the phone. You have to be awake and available at the same time as the people you want to chat with. Otherwise, it is a free for all, which isn't much fun for me either. If I want to chat with somebody in particular, I can always do private messaging.

Also, since very few people use chat, and it seems to be empty much of the time, it doesn't seem like it would be a useful place to get good answers. The best people to get answers from are NOT there, so it makes more sense to ask questions on the main forum, where I know they will look.
That's why one develops a schedule of events. A different perspective: the most popular means of communicating today is through texting, and real-time posting. Those are both forms of "chat".

No where in any of my posts did I say that the chat room would be for everyone. But if there was a topic specific schedule nightly, guarantee it would used by many members and non-members alike.

Thanks for your reply.

You know, your original post asked why people don't use the chat option. I answered. Why are you arguing with the people who answered your question.

If you want to set up some topics and be a leader within chat, go for it. Nothing is stopping you. If enough people like the idea, you may just get it going again. The fact is that many of us are not interested for various reasons, and that doesn't make us bad for not wanting to join in. Nobody here is stopping you. The owners won't interfere unless something goes really bad, so have at it.

No need to get upset with those who aren't interested in chat. It is clearly not for everybody.
Apparently, you haven't read the entire thread nor have you comprehended anything that I have written (that actually speaks to your intelligence). But there is more to come my obviously ignorant friend.

As several veteran board members know, because I gave them advance knowledge of what I was proposing to do prior to the posting of this thread, (and who I will not name here however; they are free to chime in when I post the results of this thread),this thread was a very calculated thread using "critical thinking skills" (which the self-proclaimed bully "veterans" and board bullies have no idea of which the meaning is) and simple psychology.

Simply put; after observing this board for over a month there seemed to be a core group of so-called "veterans" that were running all of the new members and guests off of this board. And this was not only my observation but that of "many" other members and guests observations alike.

Bullies simply can't help themselves (no matter the age); dangle a carrot and they HAVE to bite. It's built into their character, or lack of as it were. And cyber bullies really can't help themselves because they hide behind computer screens and keyboards, which provides them with their comfort level...they know that they can't be physically confronted with their absurdities (the thought of which makes them shiver in their boots). But they are very predicable in their responses. Peer reviewed research has proven this a countless number of times.

The entire purpose of this thread was to let the cyber bullies "out" themselves without me mentioning one name, save for the last (Mr. or Mrs. LSAT). But even mentioning that one particular "member" served a useful purpose.

What has happened here is that through the utilization of critical thinking skills (which I taught for more than a decade at the college level) and a little psychology, I have led the board bullies into self identifying themselves for all to see. This was simply and utterly a text book example of identifying a personality trait (disorder) of which I am making a copy of because at some point down the road, I will teach at the college/university level once again (when I finally retire). And what a teaching moment this will be!

Those of you that actually have a background in psychology, I invite you to go back and read my lengthy post. You will now understand the "aha" moment of the post.

Now, I was going to post the results of this "experiment" today (as I told a veteran member last night via PM) but I was still waiting on a couple of the regular board bullies to bite. I had surmised that they simply had not logged into the board since the time of my original posting to which I was correct. So tomorrow, I will be posting the results (as they have now bitten).

So, the so-called "newbies" to this board will now know who to avoid and who to take with a grain of salt and the old "veterans" who have left this board because of the absurdity and down-right nastiness of some of you so-called "veterans" just might rejoin the board in the hopes that you help me drown out the negative responders who have nothing better to do in life than to attempt to make someone else miserable.

You pieces of crap that have been ruining this board for FAR too long are about to get your reward. And don't even think about rebranding yourselves with a new board name. I'll link your IP addresses with your old board names on this board. You see, I'm a little more intelligent than the average bird and I have accumulated your IP addresses.

You've met your match azzholes....this board is going to be taken back by people that want to help others suffering from a debilitating disease (like me). I have no room for name-calling degenerates that give bad (and illegal) medical advice. My mission is to rebuild this community and to help others.

My results will be posted tomorrow. Have a great night!

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Post by BlackSpinner » Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:38 pm

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