APAP Comparisons

[phx1hab]

Resmed Airsence 10 vs PR System One REMStar by Phillips??? Which is a better choice?

[Wulfman...]

You're repeating yourself.

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Den

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[phx1hab]

Not really because no one didn't answer my question. One told me who is "they" of course it's my DME's and you said that DME's have different equipment. How is that an answer??

[Wulfman...]

Not really because no one didn't answer my question. One told me who is "they" of course it's my DME's and you said that DME's have different equipment. How is that an answer??

It's almost like asking "What's better.......a Ford made between 2010 and 2014 or a 2015 Chevy?"
There MAY be a few forum members who MIGHT have used both of those brands and generational models of XPAP machines......but they may have a bias either way. It can also be "the luck of the draw" in that two different machines from the same company can vary in their "noise factor" (I've read examples) and some machines work better for some people than others.
Is that going to help? Your breathing characteristics may differ greatly compared to some of the other users and one may be better and one may not be........for YOU.

And, I was also trying to point out that Philips/Respironics has come out with an even newer machine the "Dreamstation" which would be a "generational" equivalent to the ResMed "Airsense" line. So, your question is asking to compare two different generations of machines by two different companies. (like my Ford/Chevy example)


Den

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[phx1hab]

Thanks Den. I think I will go with the Resmed.

[Wulfman...]

Thanks Den. I think I will go with the Resmed.

Don't know which gender you are (it's not specified in your profile), but I would suggest getting the "For Her" Autoset model as it has some extra programming options than the straight Airsense 10 Autoset. A number (?) of forum members have been buying that model even though they are male.

Best wishes.

Den

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[MarylandCPAPer]

Resmed Airsence 10 vs PR System One REMStar by Phillips??? Which is a better choice?

I have used both. I used the PR System One for 5.5 years. In July, I started using an Airsense 10 For Her.

Personally, I think I am getting better therapy with the A10. However, there is no substantial, major difference that makes one or the other of these two clearly a better choice. There are many people here who have used one or the other of these two machines and feel they are getting effective therapy. Many measure the results of their therapy using free software, Sleepyhead, which backs up their experiences of effectiveness of treatment. Sleepyhead can be used with either of these types of machines.

If your insurance covers purchase of the machine from a DME, often a DME prefers to provide one brand over the other and probably stocks supplies more for that brand than others. Perhaps they get a better deal based on volume of sales, I don't know. If you prefer a particular DME, you may want to go with the one they recommend (if your choice is A10 or PR System One.

You will probably want a humidifier, which adds moisture to the air you breathe through the CPAP machine. The A10 machine comes with an attached humidifier. Phillips Respironics APAP machines can be sold without the humidifier attached, so if you are comparing prices, be sure to figure in the cost of the humidifier on the PR machine.

PR had a new model that has come our recently that a few people here have used.

[SewTired]

For most people, they won't notice any difference between the algorithms in the Respironics 560 vs. Resmed Airsense (autos both). I DID have trouble with the Respironics algorithm - so much so, I had to switch to straight pressure until my Airsense came. However, I do think I am the minority.

Respironics is an advantage if you have to go camping as the battery choices are much less expensive. The Airsense humidifier is actually easier for someone who has dexterity problems. The just-out-this month Respironics resolves that humidifier problem (operated one at a recent Diabetes Expo). The Resmed S9 and the Respironics 60 series just seem TOUGH. The newer models for both seem delicate.

[Sheriff Buford]

I like Pepsi over Coke, Smith and Wesson over Ruger, Dodge trucks over Ford trucks, Wranglers over Levis and God's law over man's law, My wife don't always like me.... but my dog does!

Sheriff

[n2it]

I like Pepsi over Coke, Smith and Wesson over Ruger, Dodge trucks over Ford trucks, Wranglers over Levis and God's law over man's law, My wife don't always like me.... but my dog does!

Sheriff

Thank you for making my day. LMAO...that was funny.

I would add though to the poster; did you check with your sleep specialist? My sleep doctor (and this is all he does and comes very highly regarded) did recommend a specific CPAP machine for me and he didn't care where I purchased it from (so there wasn't any ulterior motive). Clearly, there must be a difference from their perspective. And I don't know what that might be...it could be something as simple as the way the data from the machine is transmitted to them etc...

Just a thought...

[SewTired]

I would add though to the poster; did you check with your sleep specialist? My sleep doctor (and this is all he does and comes very highly regarded) did recommend a specific CPAP machine for me and he didn't care where I purchased it from (so there wasn't any ulterior motive). Clearly, there must be a difference from their perspective. And I don't know what that might be...it could be something as simple as the way the data from the machine is transmitted to them etc...

Just a thought...

Yes, true but some sleep doctors still limit choices for no good reason. They only want to buy one clinical software is pretty common. The thing is to ask why they prefer one machine over the other, but unfortunately you might not get to the truth, you just get their truth. The PA was actually surprised how.much worse my values were with Respironics vs. The Resmed S9. Am I the exception or.is it that they just don't know because most of their patients have inadequate data? No idea.

[PoolQ]

Well I hate to break it to some, but there are more differences between these brands than just how they decide when to react. These two company's compete with each other and both have extensive patents covering just how their machines work-they are different enough to both have gotten their own patents. Finding that one or the other works better with you is not just in your head.

My sleep doctor may or may not be like most, but he is required to take CE units and many of these are from industry seminars that go into great detail about how these machines work with actual scientific case studies. He does have a preference that I will not disclose, mainly because I personally can't tell the difference between them.

Unfortunately there does not seem to be much published about either of the major brands for the consumer to read about. It is assumed of course that we all have fluff for brains and that we cannot understand what we have to depend on to stay healthy.

[Wulfman...]

Well I hate to break it to some, but there are more differences between these brands than just how they decide when to react. These two company's compete with each other and both have extensive patents covering just how their machines work-they are different enough to both have gotten their own patents. Finding that one or the other works better with you is not just in your head.

My sleep doctor may or may not be like most, but he is required to take CE units and many of these are from industry seminars that go into great detail about how these machines work with actual scientific case studies. He does have a preference that I will not disclose, mainly because I personally can't tell the difference between them.

Unfortunately there does not seem to be much published about either of the major brands for the consumer to read about. It is assumed of course that we all have fluff for brains and that we cannot understand what we have to depend on to stay healthy.

Except that (to the manufacturers) WE aren't considered the "consumer".......that would be the DMEs and others that sell the products.

WE.......fall under the category of "mushrooms".


Den

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