Not using the humidifier?

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Not using the humidifier?

Post by imsotired » Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:22 am

One of the things that was really bothering me is waking up middle of the night or early morning feeling damp and hot around my nose. The humidifier was set at 2 when I got it. After the second night I turned it down to 1. A little better but still bothering me and still having condensation in the flappy part of the mask in the morning so the past 2 nights I've not pushed the heat button. Anyone else not use it at all? I don't feel dry really so I'm assuming it's okay. I seem to be able to tolerate keeping the mask on my nose better without the heat on. Does the air still pick up some humidity without the heat on? I would rather have air conditioned air going up my nose than heated air. I can't even stand the heat in the car blowing on me and keep the cold air vent on even in the winter once the car is warmed up. I just don't like breathing hot air. Please tell me this is okay.


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passover

Post by wolftracker » Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:39 am

I just put water in the chamber and no heat.
That is what is called passoever humidifier.

In the winter you can leave it the same or put
in a little heat.

Many ppl on this site use passover, I believe?

my .02


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Post by Sleepless in St. Louis » Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:08 am

I've always been under the impression that the humidification is simply a comfort factor. Not really sure that contributes to the efficacy of the treatment? Unless the moist air helps some folks' nasal passages stay unblocked a little better.

I would just do what makes you feel most comfortable. all other things being equal.

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Post by KansasRT » Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:44 am

A heated humidifier can help stop mouth leaks and sinus drainage, but many people use passover humidification. It really is a comfort issue.


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Post by tomjax » Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:49 am

[quote="KansasRT"]A heated humidifier can help stop mouth leaks and sinus drainage, but many people use passover humidification. It really is a comfort issue.


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Post by cpapjack » Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:07 am

A heated humidifier is not needed, but warm air holds more moisture than cool air. Again, personal preference. If your treatment is effective without it, great.


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Post by mister_hose » Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:28 am

imsotired, I just said this same thing to you in another thread, but that was before I knew you started a whole other thread about it! So let me say it again: there's nothing wrong with turning the heat off, and it'll probably end your problems with the stuffy/suffocating feelings. It did for me.

Haven't tried CPAP in winter yet, but people say some heat might be needed in winter. But in summer? Hell no.

What do you like breathing more when you're awake, cool dry air or hot humid air? Easy answer, isn't it? This is why A/C manufacturers are all filthy rich, for Pete's sake!

Heated humidification, as I understand it, is unnecessary for therapy effectiveness but is provided for people who are very sensitive to dry air (their mouths/noses get dried out, etc.) I'm not sensitive at all, and I love dry, cool, "thin" air. So do you apparently.

Turn it off, use passover only (water in the chamber but zero heat applied), and enjoy! You can also use no water, but I haven't found my water to be a problem... just the heat. Using no water might dry you out a bit, or it might not. Experiment, if you think the water's a problem.

Run A/C in your room, set as cold as you can stand it... colder, even, if you use some blankets. This will chill the CPAP intake air further, which you may like even better.

Me, I use passover humidification only and keep the room A/C'd to 70 degrees F. I also use a HEPA air cleaner all night long, on "low", to help reduce dust etc. going into the CPAP machine, which may extend its life... and more importantly, it also reduces the amount of particulates being forcibly blown into my lungs. =)

Hope this helps! Also see my post in the other thread for an idea how to stop taking your mask off in the middle of the night, too.

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Post by imsotired » Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:51 am

A heated humidifier can help stop mouth leaks
Please explain why.

This is interesting to me because even though I've liked the feeling better without heat I've felt more tired both mornings after not using the heat and noticed last night before falling asleep that my mouth was tending to fall open a bit and this hadn't been a problem while using the heat.


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Post by mister_hose » Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:10 am

imsotired wrote:
A heated humidifier can help stop mouth leaks
Please explain why.

This is interesting to me because even though I've liked the feeling better without heat I've felt more tired both mornings after not using the heat and noticed last night before falling asleep that my mouth was tending to fall open a bit and this hadn't been a problem while using the heat.
Remember you always have the option of using a full-face mask instead, and eternally forgetting "mouth leak" worries, as well as worries about nasal congestion, etc. etc. I love my full-face. Once you're used to it, it's great. No chin straps, no tape, no wondering. All holes are covered. =)

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Post by elaine47 » Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:19 am

I do not use the humidifier feature either. I hate hot air and always have to have cool air blowing on me even in the car.
I may try it in the winter when it is drier in the house but as for now, I don't.


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Post by imsotired » Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:20 am

I don't think I could do it. I feel clausterphobib with a full sized nasal mask. I love my Comfortcurve and like the look of the Swift.


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Post by Lulabelle » Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:30 am

I tried for a couple of months to adjust to the heated humidity, But I never could. I don't use the heat even in the winter. I still put water in the reservoir, because my doctor said passive moisture won't hurt and can only help. I sometimes find cleaning the reservoir to be a pain but have been hesitant to forgo using the distilled water, since it is probably helping to keep things from being to dry. I have been doing it this way for over 5 years and counting.

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Post by Goofproof » Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:34 am

I use my HH, somestimes, then I got to using it in passover mode, not I have no water in it and am using it that way. I like it cold, the colder the better. Jim
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Post by Ms Piggy » Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:35 pm

I only use the humidifier when the furnace is running during the winter, usually as passover but sometimes set on 2.
The other night at some point the temp dropped almost to frost level, the window was open so the room was quite cold, in the morning inside my left nostril was very sore, (this is the one that always leaks a bit, leak prob. due to deviated septum I'm told.)
The next night, also a cold one, I used the heated humidifier on 2 and my nose was ok, no soreness.


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Post by Malibu » Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:55 pm

Some interesting reading about humidification versus no humidification..

http://www.talkaboutsleep.com/sleep-dis ... study6.htm

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