Using the ResScan or Sleeyhead software

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Using the ResScan or Sleeyhead software

Post by moondoggy » Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:39 pm

Can someone that has used the ResScan software from Resmed or the Sleepyhead software give me the pros and cons of each?

Also.... I'm assuming that one can remove the SD card from the back of the machine, copy the data over to your hard drive ( if needed) and then re-insert the card back in the machine without screwing any of the data that the DME needs to provide to my doctor. Can anyone confirm that my assumption is correct?

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Re: Using the ResScan or Sleeyhead software

Post by Pugsy » Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:57 pm

moondoggy wrote: I'm assuming that one can remove the SD card from the back of the machine, copy the data over to your hard drive ( if needed) and then re-insert the card back in the machine without screwing any of the data that the DME needs to provide to my doctor. Can anyone confirm that my assumption is correct?
Correct.

Using SleepyHead or ResScan will NOT affect the SD card unless you happen to be using a Mac computer.
Mac computers try to put a little file on the SD card which won't hurt the software but the machine squawks. So we tell Mac users to slide the write protect slider on the SD card to prevent the Mac from writing to the SD card.

Pros and cons of ResScan or SleepyHead? The data is the same. Just presented a little differently.
ResScan is slow and huge. SleepyHead is small and fast. It is really a matter of personal preference more than anything else.
Have you seen the ResScan Video?
http://montfordhouse.com/cpap/resscan_tutorial/
We don't have a SleepyHead Tutorial but it is really very simple to use.

I would suggest you give them both a try to see if one suits your needs over the other.
I prefer SleepyHead myself. I was able to try ResScan last Dec when I trialed a ResMed machine.
SleepyHead was easier to work with IMHO.

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Re: Using the ResScan or Sleeyhead software

Post by tschultz » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:25 pm

I've allowed the Mac to write its hidden file to the SD card and both the machine and ResScan seem to ignore it.
This file seems to only get written if you open the SD card using the file manager GUI.

It is always a good idea to slide the write protect though,just need to slide it back before putting it back in the machine.

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Re: Using the ResScan or Sleeyhead software

Post by b360155 » Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:33 pm

See my post in another forum for some comparisons of the 2 software packages.

http://s7.zetaboards.com/Apnea_Board/to ... 533/1/#new

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Re: Using the ResScan or Sleeyhead software

Post by DrPepper00 » Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:34 pm

b360155 wrote:See my post in another forum for some comparisons of the 2 software packages.

http://s7.zetaboards.com/Apnea_Board/to ... 533/1/#new
Don't forget that SleepyHead allows you to graph oximetry data with the cpap data.
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Re: Using the ResScan or Sleeyhead software

Post by Papit » Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:45 pm

I'm not presently using SleepyHead. So I'm wondering where I might find instructions (links?) for step-by-step computer instructions for integrating the pulse-oximetry data (from say a NatureSpirit Fingertip Pulse Oximeter CMS-50E) with all the other time scaled graphs that the SH software produces. Can you or anyone else 'fluent' on the subject help us with that?

Thanks, -- Papit

ps. Sure wish someone knew how to do the same with the ResScan software that I already have. -- or directly into that oximetry connector on the back of the S9 AutoSet to get the pulse-ox data onto the memory card in real time at reasonable cost.

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Re: Using the ResScan or Sleeyhead software

Post by TANSTAF1 » Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:24 am

Where / how do you get the ResScan software if you are not a sleep lab or DME?

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Re: Using the ResScan or Sleeyhead software

Post by Namlehse » Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:29 am

The ResScan software isn't worth the trouble really. I'll take SleepyHead printouts in with me to my doctor, the last time I actually just took my laptop. I'm using a monstrous laptop and ResScan is still painfully slow to use.

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Re: Using the ResScan or Sleeyhead software

Post by DrPepper00 » Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:29 am

Namlehse wrote:The ResScan software isn't worth the trouble really. I'll take SleepyHead printouts in with me to my doctor, the last time I actually just took my laptop. I'm using a monstrous laptop and ResScan is still painfully slow to use.
I took my laptop in and cranked it up for the doctor. She had heard of Cpaptalk, but hadn't heard of SleepyHead. I think she was impressed. She wrote down the info. I hope she checks it out before my next visit in March. It leaves ResScan in the dust as far as user friendly and ability to spotlight info.

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Re: Using the ResScan or Sleeyhead software

Post by b360155 » Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:40 pm

I use both. I've had a bug with ResScan as my leak rate scores (mainly the max leak rate) in the summary view don't always appear to mirror what's in the the daily detail graphs. On the Sleepyhead side, I've had some ongoing issues with usage hours which Jedimark is attempting to resolve. I do like Sleepyhead a lot, but one thing Jedimark has pointed out is if you need data for legal compliance reasons, you'd best stick with the machine manufacturer's software.

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Re: Using the ResScan or Sleeyhead software

Post by NateS » Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:47 pm

Namlehse wrote:The ResScan software isn't worth the trouble really. I'll take SleepyHead printouts in with me to my doctor, the last time I actually just took my laptop. I'm using a monstrous laptop and ResScan is still painfully slow to use.
Check Uncle_Bob's signature line for a source for ResScan 3.16, Tanstaf.

I run SleepyHead on my Mac, but I also installed and use ResScan 3.16 in my Parallels Desktop 7 virtual machine running Windows XP.

There are some features I like better in each of the two programs, and it only takes a minute to stick the sd card into my laptop and suck the data into both ResScan and SleepyHead, so why be forced to choose?

I like some of SleepyHead's graphs better, but I like some of ResScan's graphs better. I like graphs that are very visual and smack me between the eyes with a very obvious presentation of the data and the trends.

Regards, Nate

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Re: Using the ResScan or Sleeyhead software

Post by DrPepper00 » Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:54 pm

Nate,
Which ResScan graphs do you find most helpful? I am running both programs, too.

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Re: Using the ResScan or Sleepyhead software

Post by NateS » Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:17 pm

DrPepper00 wrote:Nate,
Which ResScan graphs do you find most helpful? I am running both programs, too.
Leak, AHI and Events.

Nate

I am hoping that, at some time in the future, jedimark may be willing to build in options in SleepyHead which might enable users to choose the type of graph to display, sort of like the way stock charts on the internet are generally set up with graph options.

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Re: Using the ResScan or Sleeyhead software

Post by NateS » Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:59 pm

DrPepper00 wrote:Nate,
Which ResScan graphs do you find most helpful? I am running both programs, too.
By the way, I learned a new trick in ResScan today which I'll pass along in case anyone else besides myself didn't already know it:

For data still on the card but not on the computer during download, there is a compromise between Overwrite and Discard during download.

For only the second time since I started using ResScan in December, it burped during download, reported an error and closed after giving me the option to Save, which I did.

When I re-opened it this morning, yesterday's Summary was there but it failed to load the Detail for yesterday. I got the dreaded "No detailed data available" message when I selected yesterday and clicked on the Detailed Graphs button at the top of the screen.

Last time this happened I just shrugged and accepted the loss, because I didn't want to Overwrite and probably lose all my older detailed data that was on the computer but no longer on the sd card.

This time, I started hunting around for options and found one that I thought might safely work - I hit the lower Select button on the right side of the Download data screen, the one with the double symbol for Summaries and Details, and on the next screen Select Data to Download I left the choice as usual at All Summary Data and All most recent Detailed Data, but I also then checked a box labeled: "Include Equivalent Number of high rate data sessions (if available)" then clicked OK, ran my Download from the card as usual and Selected Discard as usual.

This time, along with adding today's Summary and Detail, and without disturbing my old Detailed Day Data saved to the computer but no longer on the card, it ADDED my missing detail for yesterday even though I already had Summary for yesterday on the computer.

Regards, Nate

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Re: Using the ResScan or Sleepyhead software

Post by b360155 » Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:12 pm

NateS wrote:
DrPepper00 wrote:Nate,
Which ResScan graphs do you find most helpful? I am running both programs, too.
Leak, AHI and Events.

Nate

I am hoping that, at some time in the future, jedimark may be willing to build in options in SleepyHead which might enable users to choose the type of graph to display, sort of like the way stock charts on the internet are generally set up with graph options.
What kind of options are you looking for? If you're wanting to choose which of the graphs are displayed in either daily or summary view, you can click on the button in the lower righthand portion of the screen and toggle on or off for the type of graphs you want displayed. If you want to alter the time frame for a graph, there's several ways to accomplish that. Otherwise, not sure what you mean by "type of graph".

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