Nighttime urination with enlarged prostate

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Nighttime urination with enlarged prostate

Post by roster » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:27 am

According to the new study published in the Journal of the American Board of Family Medicine, the BGU researchers found that more than half (57.8 percent) of patients with enlarged prostates may in fact have obstructive sleep apnea, and that the awakenings that patients ascribed to their need to urinate at night may be actually caused by their sleep disorders.

Article: http://esciencenews.com/articles/2011/0 ... n.gurion.u
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Re: Nighttime urination with enlarged prostate

Post by Pugsy » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:39 am

My husband is 62. No enlarged prostrate yet. Gets up sometimes several times a night to pee. Truck driver. Drinks a lot of coffee, blames it on the coffee and such. When home watching TV nods off often.. Mild snores..

I haven't witnessed any stoppage of breathing. I keep trying to let me hook him up to my machine to ease my mind but no success yet. He is a big baby about using the mask despite seeing how it has helped me..I get one excuse after another...

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Re: Nighttime urination with enlarged prostate

Post by Starlette » Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:55 pm

Hey there Roster,

Being the fact that I'm female what you just said is totally new information to me.
So you're saying that men who pee several times during the night may be a sign of prostrate cancer?
If that's the case, I'll start paying more attention to the frequency hubby gets up. I never knew.

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Re: Nighttime urination with enlarged prostate

Post by Pugsy » Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:02 pm

Starlette wrote:So you're saying that men who pee several times during the night may be a sign of prostrate cancer?
Not Rooster but I can field this one.
The article that Rooster pointed to was one that said that men with enlarged prostates and thus the need to pee frequently might also need to be checked for OSA because that is a symptom of OSA, nocturia..

It relates to benign prostrate enlargement which is very common in men as they get older. The prostrate enlarges and puts pressure on the bladder and thus the feeling of need to urinate. It is not related to prostrate cancer. Prostrate cancer is of course a different thing and can affect men of any age.

The article just states that perhaps the nocturia could be related to OSA and not just put all the blame on the enlarged prostrate.

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Re: Nighttime urination with enlarged prostate

Post by Samba » Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:03 pm

No one said nocturia is a sign of prostate cancer...

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Post by Starlette » Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:04 pm

ok

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Re: Nighttime urination with enlarged prostate

Post by avi123 » Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:36 pm

More about the Prostate Gland:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-11880415

http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&suge ... 59&bih=380

Poor Ben Gurion in his grave needs to listen to these instead of to politics.

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Re: Nighttime urination with enlarged prostate

Post by DoriC » Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:33 pm

My husband has been diagnosed by a Board Certified Urologist and treated with meds for an enlarged prostate for many years but OSA was never mentioned as a factor until his sleep study in 2008 which our Primary insisted on. He had so many symptoms of OSA that were never connected to his BHP. He missed many years of good cpap therapy that may have prevented some of his later cardiac problems but he now has less nighttime awakenings.

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Re: Nighttime urination with enlarged prostate

Post by chunkyfrog » Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:37 pm

Now that he has his machine, he doesn't pee any more often than I.

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Re: Nighttime urination with enlarged prostate

Post by roster » Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:46 am

DoriC wrote:My husband has been diagnosed by a Board Certified Urologist and treated with meds for an enlarged prostate for many years but OSA was never mentioned as a factor until his sleep study in 2008 which our Primary insisted on. He had so many symptoms of OSA that were never connected to his BHP. He missed many years of good cpap therapy that may have prevented some of his later cardiac problems but he now has less nighttime awakenings.

One of my neighbors has been going through the same thing for at least six years. His doctor is giving him Flomax for benign prostate enlargement. Even with the medication he says he gets up seven or eight times each night to urinate. He has also told me he snores heavily, doesn't sleep well, and is sleepy throughout the day. He has crowded teeth and a narrow jaw and in the last six years his posture has developed to head-pushed-forward.

These are all classic signs of severe obstructive sleep apnea and the Flomax is doing no good and there are some side effects. Why can I see this but his doctor, whom he visits regularly, does not have a clue?????

I have also told my friend about sleep apnea and that he needs to discuss it with the doctor because he has several classic symptoms. He has ignored my advice. It's his choice.
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Re: Nighttime urination with enlarged prostate

Post by carbonman » Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:11 am

I have been dealing w/BPH for the past year or so.
On the first interviews w/the urologist, he questioned
my night time visits to the facilities.
I told him since I started cpap, they had ended.
He explained that cpap would have not effect on that.
OK.....you're the doc.

Cystoscopy confirmed enlarged prostate.
Immediately started Flomax.
W/in weeks I could start to feel my life draining away.
It had no effect on symptoms of BPH.
That is some bad stuff.

After doing my own research, started trying different supplement treatments.
I am now stabalized and recovering from initial symptoms with:
Saw Palmetto-Zinc-Lycopene daily
Men's 50+ multi-vitamin
2-V-fusion veg/fruit drinks a day that give me
a wopping 34mg of lycopene
(plus they taste good and replace a 2 Pepsi/day habit)

I replaced my traditional bike saddle w/a radical,
more prostate friendly seat.

As one of our members here once said,
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Re: Nighttime urination with enlarged prostate

Post by ella14 » Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:35 pm

The most common problem for men over 50 is an enlarged prostate (BPH). By age 60, over one-half of men have BPH; by age of 85, the number climbs to 90%. For most men, these nightly bathroom runs may be the first sign of an enlarged prostate. Other symptoms may include trouble starting a stream of urine, leaking, or dibbing. The type of treatment needed for prostate enlargement depends on the severity of the signs and symptoms being experienced.
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Re: Nighttime urination with enlarged prostate

Post by kempo » Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:55 pm

For me, before cpap I was up 4-5 times a night. After starting cpap maybe 1. Most nights 0.

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Re: Nighttime urination with enlarged prostate

Post by purple » Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:28 pm

My sleep doc said, "If the heart feels stressed, it initiates a chain of events that tells the kidneys to give help by dumping more fluid. Proper treatment of Sleep Apnea should lead to getting up less often at night.

I also have needed to use Lycopene, (or better yet, half a tomato, cooked or raw) since I was thirty.

If I drink more plain water in the evening rather than diet coke, I need to get up less at night. Does not make sense to me either.

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Re: Nighttime urination with enlarged prostate

Post by Cindy Lou Who » Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:42 pm

A voice from the feminine side...
I was waking up 3 to 5 times a night (during 7 hours of sleep). Sometimes I would wake up breathless, heart pounding, or too hot in a cool room, or in a panic, or for no reason I could figure out. But because I was awake I would get up to pee: might as well do that instead of waking up again in half an hour for the real thing. Who knew that 127 hypopneas, 8 obstructive and 1 central per hour would do that to a person.
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