Market for Sleep Labs Will Shrink

[roster]

Eventually 90%+ of the diagnosis will be done at home with novel new portable equipment. A number of companies are developing new devices for the patient to use at home.

Siix Corporation to develop sleep apnea device
Written by: David Castillo on November 5th, 2009

Siix Corporation to develop sleep apnea device

Siix Corporation—a provider of electronic manufacturing services—has partnered with the Osaka Bioscience Institute Foundation to develop a simple device that measures and monitors sleep-related brain wave patterns.

The new device will help evaluate people, who are diagnosed with sleep apnea and other sleep disorders.

Typically, this type of procedure requires a room full of equipment. With this device, the procedure is made compact and easy.

The new device is as big as a pack of cigarettes. It is fitted on the head. This will allow people to diagnose sleep disorders from the comfort of their home without spending too much on the medical bill.

Siix will work on miniaturizing the technology and hopes to commercialize the product by next spring. The current prototype measure brain waves, but the company says that it will add extra electrodes to allow it to measure electrical signals that are associated with muscle movement.

Source: Trading Markets
http://www.shiftworkdisorder.com/siix-c ... 10536.html

[Muse-Inc]

Can't come soon enough! Huge need. Wish we had oximeters that were smaller, communicated with our xPAPs, stored the data and then showed the O2 %s along with the events. These proposed devices should also communicate with our xPAPs or at the least should have software that allows users to read and save the results.

[timbalionguy]

I will be an early adopter as well-- provided that the device does not need to be purchased through the health care system, or can only 'be read by an expert'.

You can find used EEG machines on EBAY and other places. It is tempting to invest in one.

[rested gal]

Following another link that was on the righthand side of that page --
Curing sleep apnea takes more than just exercise and healthy dieting

I saw this statement at the end:
"Findings in a study conducted in Mayo Clinic (Portland, Oregon) indicated that a surgery called uvopalatopharyngoplasty is the most successful treatment for sleep apnea."

No way. No way is UPPP "the most successful treatment" for sleep apnea, or even the most successful "surgical" treatment for it. MMA/GA, yes; but UPPP (uvopalatopharyngoplasty) -- No Way. (Just my opinion, of course ... LOL! )

LINKS to surgery, turbinates, Pillar, TAP experiences
viewtopic.php?t=2836

[Slinky]

Since when is there a Mayo Clinic in Portland, OR. The only ones I know of are Rochester, MN; Jacksonville, FL and Scottsdale, AZ.

[roster]

Following another link that was on the righthand side of that page --
Curing sleep apnea takes more than just exercise and healthy dieting

I saw this statement at the end:
"Findings in a study conducted in Mayo Clinic (Portland, Oregon) indicated that a surgery called uvopalatopharyngoplasty is the most successful treatment for sleep apnea."

No way. No way is UPPP "the most successful treatment" for sleep apnea, or even the most successful "surgical" treatment for it. MMA/GA, yes; but UPPP (uvopalatopharyngoplasty) -- No Way. (Just my opinion, of course ... LOL! )

<snip>

Dr. Steven Park makes a convincing argument that UPPP is more successful than CPAP:

One study that I recall showed that even the 40% success rate (of uvulopalatopharyngoplasty) was better in the long term than CPAP. Patients were recruited from a VA hospital with newly diagnosed sleep apnea and two groups were followed: CPAP users and UPPP patients. What why found a few years later was that you had a higher chance of being alive if you underwent a UPPP than if you were assigned to the CPAP group. Even though the overall success rate for UPPP is only 40%, these 40% stayed "successful", at least for the first few years. CPAP users, on the other hand, probably began to drop off in using their CPAP machines, at after a few years, compliance was poor. Based on research that shows that your overall risk of dying from cardiovascular disease in much higher if your have untreated sleep apnea, these results make sense.
http://doctorstevenpark.com/uppp-revisi ... leep-apnea

We tend to forget that cpaptalk members are a very select group with high compliance and years of perseverance. For the vast majority of those prescribed CPAP, the results are very different.

[roster]

It's the Cinco de Mayo Clinic.

[Muffy]

Eventually 90%+ of the diagnosis will be done at home with novel new portable equipment. A number of companies are developing new devices for the patient to use at home.

Eventually is right.

The "eventual" introduction of an accurate portable sleep testing device was predicted by "Zagar and Evans" in their 1969 #1 hit single "In The Year 2525":

In the year twenty-five twenty-five
If man is still alive.
If woman can survive
They may find.

In the year thirty-five thirty-five.
Ain't gonna need to tell the truth tell no lies.
Ev'rything you think do and say.
Is in the pill you took today.

In the year forty-three forty-three.
They finally made a portable sleep device that equates to PSG.
Won't make no difference cause we'll all be dead.
Besides in the next stanza there'll be no teeth so they can easily give everybody MMA for about 2 bucks so that'll be the end of OSA.

In the year forty-five forty-five.
You ain't gonna need your teeth won't need your eyes.
You won't find a thing to chew.
Nobody's gonna look at you.

In the year fifty-five fifty-five.
Your arms are hangin' limp at you side.
Your legs got nothin' to do.
Some machines doin' that for you.

In the year sixty-five sixty-five.
Ain't gonna need no husband won't need no wife.
You'll pick your son pick your daughter too.
From the bottom of a long glass tube.

In the year seventy-five-ten.
If God's a-coming he oughta make it by then.
Maybe he'll look around himself and say:
Guess it's time for the judgement day.

In the year eighty-five-ten.
God is gonna shake his mighty head.
He'll either say I'm pleased where man has been.
Or tear it down and start again.

In the year ninety-five ninety-five.
I'm kind a wond'rin' if man is gonna be alive.
He's taken everything this old earth can give.
And he ain't put back nothin'.

Now it's been ten-thousand years.
Man has cried a billion tears.
For what he never knew - now man's reign is through.
But through eternal night.
The twinkling of starlight.
So very far away - maybe it's only yesterday.

Muffy

[GumbyCT]

you go gf... sing it

in the year twenty ooh-nine
we are still stuck with DME's from the DMZ
with the CEO's and drivers here
I pray for the magic sleep box too

[Wulfman]

.......was predicted by "Zagar and Evans" in their 1969 #1 hit single "In The Year 2525":

Muffy

Are you old enough to remember them?

You got me curious....... (I THOUGHT I remembered they were from Nebraska)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zager_and_Evans

Where they (or at least one of them) are now:

http://www.zagerguitar.com/

Thanks for jogging my memory. (pun intended on the word "jogging")

Den

[Muffy]

Are you old enough to remember them?

No, I'm not, but we're studying the Jurassic Period in school. You know, Brontosauruses, Tyrannosauruses, the Beatles. Stuff like that.

Muffy

[elg5cats]

Are you old enough to remember them?

No, I'm not, but we're studying the Jurassic Period in school. You know, Brontosauruses, Tyrannosauruses, the Beatles. Stuff like that. Muffy

and people born in the 40's, 50's and 60's too!!!!!!

elg5cats

[Wulfman]

Are you old enough to remember them?

No, I'm not, but we're studying the Jurassic Period in school. You know, Brontosauruses, Tyrannosauruses, the Beatles. Stuff like that.

Muffy

I didn't think so......
But, I'm glad to hear you're still "studying".......SOMETHING.


Den

[Wulfman]

Are you old enough to remember them?

No, I'm not, but we're studying the Jurassic Period in school. You know, Brontosauruses, Tyrannosauruses, the Beatles. Stuff like that. Muffy

and people born in the 40's, 50's and 60's too!!!!!!

elg5cats

Those are (predominantly) the ones that are ending up in the sleep labs that his age group (and profession) is "studying".

Den

[plr66]

Are you old enough to remember them?

No, I'm not, but we're studying the Jurassic Period in school. You know, Brontosauruses, Tyrannosauruses, the Beatles. Stuff like that. Muffy

and people born in the 40's, 50's and 60's too!!!!!!

elg5cats

Those are (predominantly) the ones that are ending up in the sleep labs that his age group (and profession) is "studying".

Den

Yeah--the Museum Pieces!!