Switching From Nasal Pillows to Full Face Mask - Need Help

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Switching From Nasal Pillows to Full Face Mask - Need Help

Post by BigEd » Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:24 pm

For two years I've been using the Swift Mirage nasal pillows. I have to say that I've truly enjoyed using this mask. The problem is I just can't seem to keep my mouth shut. I've tried chin straps, mouth guards, denture tape, etc., etc.

I'm finally willing to make the leap (or take the plunge) to a full face mask. I realize that comfort is subjective - however, any advice would be appreciated. I find the nasal pillows very comfortable. I've tried the Hybrid, but can't get a good fit (nasal pillow leaks).

Any thoughts regarding a great full face mask?

Thanks so much. (And my wife thanks you.)

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Post by mellabella » Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:20 pm

I have the Hybrid (which fits some nights fine, other nights not)....and rotate that with the Quattro, which I find comfortable enough, for something that covers 70% of my face! You want to make sure you get the right size, otherwise leaks will drive you crazy.

What pressure are you at? Have you tried any of the fancier chin straps?

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had the same issue...

Post by kharyssa » Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:56 pm

but instead of switching masks, I found that adjusting my pressure worked. I also use the nasal pillows: I had been drooling, mouth open... tried chin strap & taping, but that was uncomfortable. I decided to adjust my pressure (a little higher) and that stopped all the 'open mouth' problems. With the higher pressure, my mouth is forced shut by the suction. I don't know your full situation, but maybe a pressure adjustment is a worth a try before you abandon your comfortable nasal pillows.


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Post by BigEd » Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:29 pm

mellabella wrote:What pressure are you at? Have you tried any of the fancier chin
straps?
I use an auto bi-pap and my average pressure is around 17. I haven't really tried any of the fancier chin straps. Even with the chin strap keeping my mouth closed, I have a tendency to still open my lips and air escapes.
kharyssa wrote:but instead of switching masks, I found that adjusting my pressure worked. I also use the nasal pillows: I had been drooling, mouth open... tried chin strap & taping, but that was uncomfortable. I decided to adjust my pressure (a little higher) and that stopped all the 'open mouth' problems. With the higher pressure, my mouth is forced shut by the suction. I don't know your full situation, but maybe a pressure adjustment is a worth a try before you abandon your comfortable nasal pillows.
Wow. I'd love to think that a pressure adjustment would do the trick. However, I'm averaging around 17 - 18 already, wouldn't a higher pressure just blow my mouth open? That's almost what happens now.


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Post by mellabella » Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:16 pm

That's funny-- I found when my pressure was raised to 13, it effectively "glued" my tongue to the roof of my mouth, creating a seal. (I have no idea what happens when I relax into full REM though, as I don't have a machine that detects/reports leaks.) I'm surprised you're not getting the same effect at 17!


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kharyssa2

huh... some thoughts...

Post by kharyssa2 » Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:06 pm

I was told that when the pressure is 'correct' you will not be able to open your mouth and speak easily because the airflow forces your tongue create a pressure seal. Perhaps it's that your pressure is too HIGH, rather than too low - especially if it feels like your mouth is practically blowing open as it is! Personally, I would play with the settings until I found the one that worked - sometimes a small difference of .5 can solve alot of problems (-.4 solved all mine).

Or maybe your anatomy or soft tissue is just unique?? That's certainly been the case for some folks.

Hang in there!

-kharyssa


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Post by WindFlyer » Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:11 am

When it comes to full face masks the consensus seems to be that the Ultra-Mirage by ResMed is number one, with the F&P HC432 coming in a close second. Best bet as always, though, is to stop in to your DME and try on a few and see which one works best for you.


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Post by yorkiemum01 » Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:18 pm

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