60 Minutes to Report on sleep

Mr_Ed · Post by **Mr_Ed** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:00 pm

Just wanted to pass along the heads up that on Sunday, 60 Minutes is doing a report on "sleep". Not sure what it will cover but according to the ad, it's a double length segment.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/1998/07/ ... 3502.shtml

Snoredog · Post by **Snoredog** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 11:12 pm

we should watch it, I mean those reporters have to be at least 150 years old, some older than Keith Richards, they have to know something we don't

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:45 am

Thanks for the info. I'm a Newb - On CPAP less than a week.

markinOz · Post by **markinOz** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:11 am

60 minutes in Australia did a story on sleep or lack of it tonight in Australia. It basicaly involved a reporter going with out sleep for 30 hours and the effects on them. No mention of OSA or it's treatment. No encouagement to see a ENT or get a sleep study. The only advice was to get more sleep. Just crap journalism and a wasted opportunity.

Julie · Post by **Julie** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 10:26 am

If the story's a rerun of one done earlier this year, it's unfortunately not that great - the apnea segment wasn't very long or comprehensive, but I guess we'll have to look and see if it's new or not.

mindy · Post by **mindy** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:24 pm

It is a rerun of the earlier one. Some interesting stuff but is definitely not just about sleep apnea only. It's really more about the effect of lack of sleep on the brain and body.

Mindy

Dgrendahl · Post by **Dgrendahl** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 10:06 pm

I used to retire around 8:45/9:00 p.m. and find myself awaking around 1/2 a.m. and then tossing and turning till five. Well, I talked to my doctor about it and he wanted to know if I was actually sleepy when I retired. I said, "NO!" He said, then why don't you go to bed around 11:30 or so...do that for a week and see what happens. So, I did. Well, I now fall asleep within minutes and wake up most refreshed at five or thereabouts. He told me that it is a bunch of crap that we all need 8 hours of sleep. He said the amount of sleep you get depends on many things. So, I'm doing about five hours and am doing fine on that. Your responses?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:35 am

My response is: Whatever works for you.

I didn't see that segment earlier this year, and apparently, neither did my Mom. I've been TRYING to convince her to get my dad in for a sleep study for a year now. I pointed out some things in the segment, and told her that several of us on this forum have discussed the corrollation between perceived mental illness and sleep apnea. She's been convinced for years that my father is "depressed." All the while complaining about his snoring, his thrashing in bed, and his " screaming night terrors."

I said a few more things, and she was instantly defensive and rejected me, as usual. I very softly and calmly brought up a few more points during dinner. Her response - well, he's not sleepy during the daytime anymore since I got him sitting under this sunlamp.

As my Dad says - If it's not HER idea, she'll reject it. I wonder if it would be worth the effort it might take to talk to my deaf father about his sleeping problems...

Hope it helped someone. Unfortunately, mid-way through the report, Mom decided dinner was ready and switched off the telly.

Cheers,
B.

Issac · Post by **Issac** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:40 am

Bab's don't give up.

Your likely to add an additional 10 to 15 years to his life if you can get him to address the OSA.

My wife was my lifesaver. She kept on and on and on till I gave in just to shut her up. Little did I know that all the symtoms, from chest pain to falling asleep at work would be gone in less than a year. I suffered the first year due to terrible equipment.Now, Thanks to a new BiPap and my trusty Hybrid mask, I won't even nap without it, it has helped so much. With energy than I know what to do with, there are not enough hours in the day to do all I want to do.

I have my nagging wife to thank.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:48 am

Isaac, my father may not thank you for adding 10-15 more years to his current hell.

5 years ago he went blind, deaf, and lost most of his mobility. He's all there mentally, but he's trapped in darkness and silence. He's managed to rise above it VERY WELL, he's a real poster boy for positive thinking. BUT...

If he'd divorced my mother 15 years ago - when he wanted to - neither one of them would be trapped in this hell together, now. And they are trapped. For the rest of their lives. And I'm the only kid here in town, and I'm the one they vent to.

So........
B.

mindy · Post by **mindy** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:00 pm

So sorry, Babs!

My mother constantly picked on my father and it got worse as they got older. It was very painful to watch and ironic that my mother was the regular churchgoer and everyone thought she was such a wonderful person!

Now they're both gone and, I suspect, happier if anything. RIP.

Mindy

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:03 pm

Mindy, the upside of this is that we all are reasonably intelligent and have maintained our sense of humour.

As I said last night to the Old Folks over a Father's Day dinner - "I don't care which of you kills the other one. I'm prepared to hide the body. Just please make sure the insurance is in place, because it'd suck going to jail without going on a nice vacation first."

The downside is that they are in their 70's and certain behaviours are ingrained. No wonder I'm single.

Cheers,
B.

mindy · Post by **mindy** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:36 pm

Babs,

Yes, I completely get what you mean Sometimes laughing about it is the best (and only) way to go!

Your great sense of humor is something that you could have developed because of rather than in spite of the family dynamics

In any case, like everything else the situation has its ups and downs. When things get rough, just think of me thinking of you

Mindy

split_city · Post by **split_city** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:03 am

markinOz wrote:60 minutes in Australia did a story on sleep or lack of it tonight in Australia. It basicaly involved a reporter going with out sleep for 30 hours and the effects on them. No mention of OSA or it's treatment. No encouagement to see a ENT or get a sleep study. The only advice was to get more sleep. Just crap journalism and a wasted opportunity.

I saw this too. However, the story did not revolve around OSA at all so I find what you said to be a bit perplexing. While I believe OSA needs to be represented in the media far more than what it has been currently, the effects of sleep loss/restriction/deprivation (independent of OSA) are just as important. Sleep loss has similar detrimental effects on neurocongnitive function as alcohol. Dr. Drew Dawson is a well respected expert in his field. Our lab collaborates with his group and a PhD student of ours is looking at the effects of sleep restriction and alcohol on driving and neurcognition in OSA patients and controls.

While I respect your opinion, and the actual segment lacked a bit of depth, it wasn't about OSA. Today Tonight and What's Good For You are two shows which have shown several segments about OSA.

Of a side note, I actually saw an interesting couple on Divorce Court yesterday. A lady was suing her husband for some money so that she could move out due to her husband's chronic snoring and suspected OSA. They showed film of her stuffing tissues up her husband's nose and taping his mouth with duct tape while he was asleep to try and stop him snoring

mindy · Post by **mindy** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:18 am

Just a comment or two (from my perspective only!):

Although the 60 minutes segment did refer to 8 hours of sleep, if I heard it correctly they said "most" *not* "all" people need around 8 hours.

As much as I know I'm focused on OSA, I do believe that sleep deprivation generally has very negative effects. With OSA, we get not only those effects but also low o2 saturation - a double whammy, IMHO. Generally I think it's a good thing for folks to be aware of the physical effects of sleep deprivation. Sure, I'd like to hear more on OSA but not every show on sleep can cover that.

Mindy

60 Minutes to Report on sleep

60 Minutes to Report on sleep

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