Nasal Aire II sounds like I'm sucking water

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Nasal Aire II sounds like I'm sucking water

Post by kayfouroh » Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:11 am

Basically when I am using my treatment it sounds like my (new) Nasal Aire II is sucking water. My old kit did not sound like this. It does it with MP, L, and XL sizes. There is no water in the tube but it sounds like the water is sucking near my nostril (I can switch the nasal tube part around and it is the same nostril). I don't know what to do, hope someone has some tips!

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Post by sleepycarol » Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:13 am

Hopefully Babs or Jerry will have some input and you will be able to fix it.
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Post by Guest » Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:45 am

Hmmmm... if you're not experiencing rainout, you've got me. Where did you buy your NAII from? Might be a defective model. Try exchanging it?

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Post by 6PtStar » Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:41 pm

I have had it. It is amasing how little moisture in the nostral will make it gurgle. When it does this I usually blow my nose well and take a tissue and put it on the end of a Q-Tip and dry out the nare. Usually makes the seal better also. After putting it back on I push on the side of the nose that is not gurgleing and take a couple of deep breaths and it goes away. Generally only happens when I first mask up to go to bed.

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Post by krousseau » Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:41 pm

Make sure the water level in the humidifier isn't too high. Sounds travel in the hose.

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Post by kayfouroh » Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:45 pm

The water in the humidifier is never above the max level. I will start putting less in. Problem is.. the water disappears by the morning.

Also, there is moisture in my nose since I put Ayr Gel in so I don't dry out. I will try to extra-clean my nose tonight before I use the NAII.


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Post by Guest » Fri Feb 08, 2008 4:35 pm

NO AYR GEL BEFORE BED!!!!! You really CAN'T have any moisture present with this mask.

Only use Ayr Gel in the AM or an hour or so before bed. Don't put it on WITH this particular mask.

There's your problem!
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Post by BrnEyez » Fri Feb 08, 2008 4:56 pm

And even be careful when washing your face and splashing to rinse....just could have a little extra moisture in the nares if you insert the prongs too soon after. Everything must be dry.

Even when I think I am being super careful and I insert the prongs and then futz around for a bit before I settle down, it seems my breathing body temp and the cannula/hose temp will create a little extra moisture....so I de-prong, wipe throughly, and begin again...this time no futzing around.

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Post by Guest » Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:16 pm

Me too! There are nights I lay down, mask up, gurgle and wheeze, then rip the mask off, blow nose, POKE KLEENEX UP NOSE TO SWAB, and thoroughly dry before re-masking.

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Post by kayfouroh » Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:14 pm

See I tried it just now after blowing my nose a lot and it still has the sound..

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Post by krousseau » Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:51 pm

So is this JUST the sound or do you have a clear, watery nasal discharge when you blow your nose? Is water condensing in your nose?

It wouldn't be the humidifier

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Post by kayfouroh » Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:39 am

It is definitely what is in my nose, but short of basically drying my nose out to the point of discomfort, it is impossible to get rid of the sound.

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Post by Babette » Sat Feb 09, 2008 8:32 pm

Kay, it may be that you're going through a period of congestion, and this is just what it sounds like.

Have you tried washing out your nose with a Neti Pot?

http://unimedprod.com/

I prefer their "Sinus Rinse" squeeze bottle.

Also, I'm confused about your statement about "drying out your nose to the point of discomfort". I'm currently not congested, and my nose is dry inside and out, and I'm not uncomfortable. This is "Normal" for me. I'm not a dog - I don't normally have a wet nose.

Can you tell us what you're going through that you like to keep your nose wet?

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Post by kayfouroh » Sun Feb 10, 2008 3:23 pm

Babette wrote:Kay, it may be that you're going through a period of congestion, and this is just what it sounds like.

Have you tried washing out your nose with a Neti Pot?

http://unimedprod.com/

I prefer their "Sinus Rinse" squeeze bottle.

Also, I'm confused about your statement about "drying out your nose to the point of discomfort". I'm currently not congested, and my nose is dry inside and out, and I'm not uncomfortable. This is "Normal" for me. I'm not a dog - I don't normally have a wet nose.

Can you tell us what you're going through that you like to keep your nose wet?

Cheers,
Babs
When I mean to the point of discomfort, I mean dried out so much that it feels like a rash. My nose is always somewhat congested, back before I could even remember. One side of my nose is always stuffed, but it moves back and forth whenever it feels like.

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Post by Babette » Sun Feb 10, 2008 3:31 pm

Frank/Kay, I get what you mean. You may need to work on clearing up that congestion. The Sinus Rinse will help. I'm a big fan of my cocktail - Claritin and Flonase.

You can get Claritin over the counter. If you can tolerate it, try taking some Pseudoephedrine for a few days/weeks, until you can get clear and revert to maintenance. Don't take it forever.

Really, the best thing is to be evaluated by a physician. But if that's not an option, you can try OTC antihistimes and decongestants until you find the cocktail that works for you.

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