[Health] Low AHI but poor sleep. Thinking about Supplementation

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[Health] Low AHI but poor sleep. Thinking about Supplementation

Post by Velderes » Sun Jun 16, 2024 4:00 pm

Hello all,


I have low AHI (below 1.5 average) but poor deep sleep (groggy and tired throughout the day) and I am thinking about using common supplementation for better deep sleep.

Do any of you have any experience using Magnesium while using CPAP? Are there any issues with using Magnesium while on CPAP therapy?

Also, what other supplementation (Melatonin, Vitamin B6, etc.) have you used to find success with getting more deep sleep, and if you have one, please share your experience below!


Thanks

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Re: [Health] Low AHI but poor sleep. Thinking about Supplementation

Post by Julie » Sun Jun 16, 2024 10:02 pm

Have you seen a doctor? Had any testing?

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Re: [Health] Low AHI but poor sleep. Thinking about Supplementation

Post by ChicagoGranny » Mon Jun 17, 2024 4:57 am

Velderes wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2024 4:00 pm
Magnesium
Worthless. You already get magnesium in food. If you have a poor diet, read which foods are highest in magnesium.
Velderes wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2024 4:00 pm
what other supplementation (Melatonin, Vitamin B6, etc.
None of them work. Some have bad unpleasant side effects.

There is no magic pill. Study good sleep hygiene. Practice it.
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Re: [Health] Low AHI but poor sleep. Thinking about Supplementation

Post by Miss Emerita » Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:30 am

How do you know you're having inadequate deep sleep, as opposed to inadequate REM or total sleep time?

I'll echo Julie's question: have you had testing for possible medical issues causing you to feel groggy and tired? You might ask your doctor to test for thyroid, testosterone (if you are a man), iron, B vitamins, vitamin D, autoimmune diseases (especially in the connective-tissue-disease family), and Lyme disease.
Oscar software is available at https://www.sleepfiles.com/OSCAR/

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Re: [Health] Low AHI but poor sleep. Thinking about Supplementation

Post by MyIdaho » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:22 pm

ChicagoGranny wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 4:57 am
There is no magic pill. Study good sleep hygiene. Practice it.
Spot on ChicagoGranny, good sleep hygiene is very beneficial. Here is one good link: https://sdlab.fas.harvard.edu/files/sdl ... weekly.pdf

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Re: [Health] Low AHI but poor sleep. Thinking about Supplementation

Post by ChicagoGranny » Mon Jun 17, 2024 4:29 pm

MyIdaho wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:22 pm
ChicagoGranny wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 4:57 am
There is no magic pill. Study good sleep hygiene. Practice it.
Spot on ChicagoGranny, good sleep hygiene is very beneficial. Here is one good link: https://sdlab.fas.harvard.edu/files/sdl ... weekly.pdf
That is a good list. I would add, "Check your medications". Many meds cause difficulty with sleep.
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Re: [Health] Low AHI but poor sleep. Thinking about Supplementation

Post by Velderes » Tue Jun 18, 2024 6:52 am

Thank you for the reply all!!

Happy to answer some of the questions here to try to dial in the right answer!

"Have you seen a doctor? Had any testing?" Yes, I have. I got an in-clinic sleep study and the results showed an AHI of 23.

"Study good sleep hygiene. Practice it." Prior to getting an APAP machine, my sole focus was obtaining good sleep hygiene. My routine comprises of but is not limited to: Keeping a cool room temperature and taking a warm shower an hour before bedtime, exercising 4-5 times a week, sleeping in a fixed sleep schedule, turning off all devices an hour before bed, eating before 6 pm so I am not digesting when I'm heading to bed at 10 PM, not drinking any caffeine and alcohol, and meditating before sleep.

Lastly, I am also not taking any medications.

Here are some of my latest SleepHQ data incase it helps
https://sleephq.com/public/7cfe10b8-a87 ... 2d3a190e56
https://sleephq.com/public/6baee7d3-fd8 ... 563177a6b6

Thanks!

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Re: [Health] Low AHI but poor sleep. Thinking about Supplementation

Post by ChicagoGranny » Tue Jun 18, 2024 10:43 am

You seem to have a good sleep hygiene practice. Your charts show good results. Your minimum pressure is set at 5.0. The machine quickly raises the pressure above 5.0. This is an indication that 5.0 min is too low. Many people report that pressures below 6.0 or 7.0 cause a suffocating feeling. You might want to raise your min to 6 or 7 and see how that goes for you.
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