SleepyHead Data

[countryboy]

I just upgraded from 64 bit Windows 7 to 10. I backed up my "User" folder from Windows 7 so I have my old SleepyHead data. Here's what I've done so far:
1. Replaced the Windows 10 Documents folder with my old windows 7 Documents folder.
2. Downloaded the 64 bit version 0.9.8.1
4. Downloaded "Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable Package
5. Ran as Administrator & installed

Ok for some reason Sleepyhead didn't detect my old data folder and created another one so I now have two data folders. Old one is named "SleepyHeadData" & new one "SleepyHeadData-Testing. I've noticed the old Profile folder does not have anything in it and I would have thought it should have. I've been using SleepyHead for 2 years and did create a Profile. The new folder does have a Profile in it because I created a new one during setup.

Anyway since my old folder is not showing I created a Profile does that mean my old data is probably gone?

[Jay Aitchsee]

What version of Sleepyhead were you running on Win 7?
If you weren't using 9.8, your method might not work. To copy the SleepHeadData testing folder from one computer to another both should be running the same version of SleepyHead.

See this long thread
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=107031&st=0&sk=t&sd ... 0#p1021292

If you saved both the SleepyHeaddata file and the SleepyHead program files from Win 7 you should be able to copy and paste them both to the Win 10 computer get that version running and then upgrading to 9.8 by upgrading first to 9.6 if your old version isn't at least that.

If you did the normal Windows 10 upgrade from Win 7, It should have brought SleepyHead and all your other programs over intact?

[countryboy]

Jay you know I'm not sure which version I used but assume it was 64 bit 9.8 since I linked to it from this forum.

Nope I did a Clean Install I didn't keep anything since I had backed up my "Users" folder. Didn't figure I would need my Program files and wanted a clean slate on Windows 10.

Guess I'm starting over this with a new Profile then.

[Jay Aitchsee]

I wouldn't give up so quick.
9.8 has only been out a year approximately, if that long. So if you hadn't upgraded your Win 7 to 9.8, you were probably running 9.6 or earlier. Evidently, versions earlier than 9.6 didn't have the -Testing tag on the data file which was kind of a clue in your case.
You could try this: Download 9.6 and see if it will open your old file. You can copy and save the 9.8 folders to a backup drive and delete them from the working files to get them out of the way or rename them so they won't interfere. I'd save both the new SleepyheadData file and the program files to backup and if upgrading doesn't work, you can just paste them back in and start new.
Read over that last entry in Rosie thread. She's about the same place you are. You can get 9.6 in that thread (or below).
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=107031&st=0&sk=t&sd ... 0#p1021292

Old one is named "SleepyHeadData" & new one "SleepyHeadData-Testing. I've noticed the old Profile folder does not have anything in it and I would have thought it should have.

EDIT: Yes, I find it odd there's nothing in it. Maybe you should recheck the source file.
EDIT:Where did you put the original SleepyHead program File folder? If you put it on the Desktop, as many do, and you copied your W7 user file, you should still have it and could copy it along with the data file to W10. Or, it might still be in your old /user/name/downloads file

In theory, running 9.8 with an existing SleepyHead Data file should convert and upgrade that data file to the 9.8 format which is different from previous versions. However, Mark did not recommend upgrading from versions previous to 9.6. His recommendation was to upgrade to 9.6 first. Here's a link to 9.6 http://sourceforge.net/projects/sleepyh ... p/download. It's possible, I suppose, that 9.8 did convert your old data and then it would be in the new SleepyHeadData-Testing file. You could try a rebuild from backup. if there is a backup file, its size might yield a clue as to whether or not it contains old data.

If your data is in 9.6 format and it is in your documents folder, then downloading and installing 9.8 should work.

I think the one glitch in copying Sleepyhead files from one computer to another or from one version of windows to another may involve the path to the profile folder. In the couple tests that I've done, the first runs didn't immediately find the old data and asked to create a new data file. At this point, I think the answer should be yes (worked for me) shut down the program and restart it. Alternatively, you could say no and shut down. I do not think a new profile should be created, especially one with the same name as the one that is being imported until things are sorted out.

Since the SleepyHead program files are self contained in one folder and are not actually "installed" on a computer, the folder containing the extracted program files should be transferable from one location or computer to another by a simple cut or copy and paste. Another download should not be required.

SleepyHead v0.9.8-1 Testing builds...
Please BACK UP your SleepyHeadData folder before even attempting to upgrade...
Once you upgrade SleepyHead's data folder, you can't use it in an older version without causing corruption.
...
Potential Upgrade Problems
If you're on an earlier version, and want to upgrade, it's best to try going through 0.9.6 first. If 0.9.6 doesn't work for you, all I can say is good luck, and I hope it works for you! If not, you will need to create a new profile.

If things don't seem to go right, try creating a fresh profile... or even a new SleepyHeadData folder. If you do this, and have a ResMed machine, you should be able to import from the automatic backup folder in the older profile folder to get your machine history back. If you have any other machine, and don't have your own backups, sorry to report that SleepyHead didn't have backups for your machine till now..

...Mark

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[Jay Aitchsee]

So Countryboy, did you have any luck retrieving your old data?

[countryboy]

No sorry I haven't gotten back. As I said earlier there's no Profile in my backed Sleepyhead folder which there should be. Besides backing up my Documents folder to an external hard drive I also have Carbonite cloud backup. Now the Carbonite does show a profile for me inside the Sleepyhead folder but for some reason it won't restore it to my computer I get an error. Without a backed up Profile guess there's nothing left to do.

I do have a question though. I've used my CPAP machine for about two years so would it have started writing over my data or should I still have the data from the beginning?

[Jay Aitchsee]

As I said earlier there's no Profile in my backed Sleepyhead folder which there should be

Assuming it's the right folder, yes there should be.
From your Carbonite, can you copy and paste rather than restore?
The S9 stores up to 365 nights of Summary data (unless you've had to erase it for some reason, like an incorrect time change)
The SD card stores up to 365 nights of Summary Data, 30 nights of Detailed Data, and 7 nights of High Resolution Data
Once these limits are reached it begins an overwrite
So you would only have a years worth (max) of data available if it wasn't downloaded and saved elsewhere - and then only Summary Data.

[countryboy]

No Carbonite only gives you two options (1) Restore (restores the original Sleepyhead folder to Documents) (2) Restore to (you can restore to anywhere location on your computer). I've been using option 2 and trying to restore to my desktop but getting an error. I didn't want to try option 1 considering I have the newer software installed. I suppose I could call Carbonate tech support Monday and see if they could help.

I guess having a year's worth of data is better than nothing at all if it comes down to that.

[countryboy]

Just wanted to update I never could get the old Profile to download correctly from Carbonite even their tech help couldn't figure it out.

I've moved on so I loaded my memory card into the new software and I have the last 380 days so I'm fine with that. Is there a reason though why you cannot create a shortcut for the SleepyHead.exe? If I open it from within the SleepyHead folder it works fine but if I create a shortcut I get the error "The program can't start because Qt5Core.dll is missing from your computer. Try reinstalling the program to fix this problem."

Nothing I can't live with just curious.

[Pugsy]

The Qt5 dll error message usually means that the app exe file trying to be used is in the zipped folder and not the unzipped folder.

I was able to create shortecuts easily...just make sure that you are in the unzipped SH folder and not the zipped folder.

[countryboy]

Nope not using a zipped folder and I had no issues creating a shortcut before I had to reinstall Sleepyhead when I upgraded to Windows 10.

What the heck I downloaded and installed 0.9.8-1-T3-Windows-64 bit.exe from here http://www.sleepfiles.com/SH2/ so why does SleepyHead show v0.9.6-testing?

[countryboy]

Ok guess I was opening the 9.6 version I still had the folder... I found the 9.8 folder. The 9.8 version works but still cannot create a shortcut and this is not a zipped folder.

[Pugsy]

Go to the unzipped SH 9.8-1 folder and find the application .exe file and right click mouse on it...try "pin to start menu" or "pin to taskbar" and see if you can get a shortcut that way.
I just put mine on my taskbar so it is easy to find.

[countryboy]

Weird pinning it to the Start Menu worked. Thanks Pugsy!

[countryboy]

Ok after I loaded the data from the memory card into SleepyHead I reinserted it into my CPAP device and it kept asking to rewrite the data. I would say No and it would say to reinsert but it seemed to be in a loop because it did the same thing after reinserting. I finally said Yes and it erased the card but at least I could now use it. Not sure why this happened because I always use Windows USB removal tool and turn off the CPAP machine when removing or reinserting the card.

Now when I go to load data into SleepyHead will it erase all my data already in SleepyHead (and replace with what's on the card) or will it just add any new data?

Should I be backing this up using the Backup Journal?