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obstruction occurs while still awake?

Post by Dave007 » Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:25 pm

Sometimes when I'm trying to fall a sleep but still awake in bed I will feel an obstruction occur near back of my throat for a second or two.

* Is this common?

* Anyway to figure out what is collapsing? i.e. tongue, uvula, tonsils ect. (I can confirm that the front of my tongue has not moved but not sure if there is a back flap or something)

* If I am feeling the obstruction while still awake does this mean that my EPAP min setting is not high enough?


Thanks!

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Re: obstruction occurs while still awake?

Post by Wulfman... » Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:30 pm

Dave007 wrote:Sometimes when I'm trying to fall a sleep but still awake in bed I will feel an obstruction occur near back of my throat for a second or two.

* Is this common?

* Anyway to figure out what is collapsing? i.e. tongue, uvula, tonsils ect. (I can confirm that the front of my tongue has not moved but not sure if there is a back flap or something)

* If I am feeling the obstruction while still awake does this mean that my EPAP min setting is not high enough?


Thanks!
"STILL AWAKE"??? Think about that one for a minute. This is called "Sleep Apnea" for a reason.

Edit: What sleeping position are we talking about?


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Re: obstruction occurs while still awake?

Post by Nick Danger » Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:37 pm

I sometimes think I feel this while on my back just before turning on the CPAP and falling asleep - but it may just be my mind playing tricks on me.

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Re: obstruction occurs while still awake?

Post by Jay Aitchsee » Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:45 pm

Dave007 wrote:Sometimes when I'm trying to fall a sleep but still awake in bed I will feel an obstruction occur near back of my throat for a second or two.
* Is this common?
* Anyway to figure out what is collapsing? i.e. tongue, uvula, tonsils ect. (I can confirm that the front of my tongue has not moved but not sure if there is a back flap or something)
* If I am feeling the obstruction while still awake does this mean that my EPAP min setting is not high enough?
Thanks!
I have felt this when not using cpap and sometimes when using a nasal mask, but I don't remember experiencing it with a FFM.
How about Ramp? Is your therapy being reduced for a bit at the beginning of the night?

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Re: obstruction occurs while still awake?

Post by SGearhart » Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:54 pm

Dave007 wrote:Sometimes when I'm trying to fall a sleep but still awake in bed I will feel an obstruction occur near back of my throat for a second or two.
I have this problem just before entering sleep or if I try to aggressively blow my nose. I know . . .T M I

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Re: obstruction occurs while still awake?

Post by chunkyfrog » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:37 pm

Aggressively blowing your nose?
I never do that! It messes up my ears!
Is that just me?

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Re: obstruction occurs while still awake?

Post by yaconsult » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:44 pm

chunkyfrog wrote:Aggressively blowing your nose?
I never do that! It messes up my ears!
Is that just me?
Nope, it's not just you! There are some things we learn to just avoid doing. One I avoid is pointing my toes down in bed and stretching - used to get horrible calf spasms.

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Re: obstruction occurs while still awake?

Post by Dave007 » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:55 pm

I'm awake enough to notice the collapse so I do not have to be 100% a sleep to notice this. It happens when I'm on my back or my side. (I know not to sleep on my back). Yes I do have ramp setting for 15 minutes and when I notice the collapse happening I disengage the ramp and start at full pressure settings.

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Re: obstruction occurs while still awake?

Post by Enchanter » Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:06 pm

Dave007 wrote:Sometimes when I'm trying to fall a sleep but still awake in bed I will feel an obstruction occur near back of my throat for a second or two.

* Is this common?

* Anyway to figure out what is collapsing? i.e. tongue, uvula, tonsils ect. (I can confirm that the front of my tongue has not moved but not sure if there is a back flap or something)

* If I am feeling the obstruction while still awake does this mean that my EPAP min setting is not high enough?


Thanks!

Really? This is what I'm trying to figure out. I think I have apnea 24-7 too.
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Re: obstruction occurs while still awake?

Post by Darth Lady » Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:44 pm

Enchanter wrote:
Dave007 wrote:Sometimes when I'm trying to fall a sleep but still awake in bed I will feel an obstruction occur near back of my throat for a second or two.

* Is this common?

* Anyway to figure out what is collapsing? i.e. tongue, uvula, tonsils ect. (I can confirm that the front of my tongue has not moved but not sure if there is a back flap or something)

* If I am feeling the obstruction while still awake does this mean that my EPAP min setting is not high enough?


Thanks!

Really? This is what I'm trying to figure out. I think I have apnea 24-7 too.


I know, it's not funny. Happens to me when I nod off in the daytime, which I do way too often... Did it today, sitting at a table listening to someone giving instructions to someone else...clunk!

Dave007-You might want to try doing without ramp (easier than you think), shortening the time of it, or raising the starting pressure for ramp a bit. Who needs that lovely choking snorking feeling?

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Re: obstruction occurs while still awake?

Post by russatore » Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:11 pm

Darth Lady wrote:
Enchanter wrote:
Dave007 wrote:Sometimes when I'm trying to fall a sleep but still awake in bed I will feel an obstruction occur near back of my throat for a second or two.

* Is this common?

* Anyway to figure out what is collapsing? i.e. tongue, uvula, tonsils ect. (I can confirm that the front of my tongue has not moved but not sure if there is a back flap or something)

* If I am feeling the obstruction while still awake does this mean that my EPAP min setting is not high enough?


Thanks!

Really? This is what I'm trying to figure out. I think I have apnea 24-7 too.


I know, it's not funny. Happens to me when I nod off in the daytime, which I do way too often... Did it today, sitting at a table listening to someone giving instructions to someone else...clunk!

Dave007-You might want to try doing without ramp (easier than you think), shortening the time of it, or raising the starting pressure for ramp a bit. Who needs that lovely choking snorking feeling?


It happens to me as well.... when I am about to fell asleep without the tube connected it is not as uncommon as you would think

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Re: obstruction occurs while still awake?

Post by Raheel » Wed Apr 22, 2015 5:23 am

I sometimes think I feel this while on my back just before turning on the CPAP and falling asleep - but it may just be my mind playing tricks
I can relate to that as it used to happen before starting the CPAP therapy. There were occasions where I could hear my own snoring right in the middle of a conversation. It was so bad.

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obstruction occurs while still awake?

Post by sleepstar » Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:10 pm

Wulfman... wrote:
Dave007 wrote:Sometimes when I'm trying to fall a sleep but still awake in bed I will feel an obstruction occur near back of my throat for a second or two.

* Is this common?

* Anyway to figure out what is collapsing? i.e. tongue, uvula, tonsils ect. (I can confirm that the front of my tongue has not moved but not sure if there is a back flap or something)

* If I am feeling the obstruction while still awake does this mean that my EPAP min setting is not high enough?


Thanks!
"STILL AWAKE"??? Think about that one for a minute. This is called "Sleep Apnea" for a reason.
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Edit: What sleeping position are we talking about?


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I've had patients talking to me while snoring and obstructing. To be conversing with me I'd say they are awake Image

I don't have sleep apnea, but I do get this feeling (always while on my back). I'm awake and probably drifting and shock myself wide awake, feeling my throat close. Happens especially after sleeping tablets or a beer or 3.

You're possibly drifting (micro sleeps - these are small fragments of sleep, not continuous, seconds). It might feel like you're wide awake but maybe you aren't.