Does CA mean clear airway or central apnea

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Does CA mean clear airway or central apnea

Post by lynbarnes » Fri Apr 03, 2015 5:27 pm

When I download my data into sleepyhead, I have quite a lot of flags that say clear airway. Is this the same as a central apnea? I'm using the ResMed AirSense 10 Elite.

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Re: Does CA mean clear airway or central apnea

Post by Wulfman... » Fri Apr 03, 2015 5:34 pm

lynbarnes wrote:When I download my data into sleepyhead, I have quite a lot of flags that say clear airway. Is this the same as a central apnea? I'm using the ResMed AirSense 10 Elite.
"Possibly" Since these machines use "air flow", sensors and algorithms to try to interpret the data and we're not all wired up in a full blown sleep study, it's their way of making an "educated guess" at what's happening. If you did have an in-lab sleep study, and had "Central Apneas" noted in your sleep study, it's a good possibility that those ARE Centrals the machine is trying to interpret. If there weren't, these might not be "Centrals". If they're occurring near the beginning of your sleep time, they may be "onset" Centrals, which are somewhat common for some people.


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Re: Does CA mean clear airway or central apnea

Post by djhall » Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:49 pm

To know if an apnea is truly a central you would need all the additional equipment typically used in a sleep lab. Without all that extra equipment, what your machine CAN tell is if your airway was clear or obstructed at the time of the apnea. You could be semi-awake and turning over trying to get comfortable when the event was flagged, in which case it isn't really a central. Or you could be fully asleep and experiencing a central apnea.

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Re: Does CA mean clear airway or central apnea

Post by palerider » Fri Apr 03, 2015 7:17 pm

lynbarnes wrote:When I download my data into sleepyhead, I have quite a lot of flags that say clear airway. Is this the same as a central apnea? I'm using the ResMed AirSense 10 Elite.
yes, it's the same thing, respironics (which sleepyhead was written for first) called 'em "clear airway apneas" meaning, your airway wasn't blocked, but you weren't breathing, which is the definition of a central apnea.

so, yes, same thing.

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Re: Does CA mean clear airway or central apnea

Post by Gasper62 » Fri Apr 03, 2015 7:23 pm

With all the apnea related acronyms and abbreviations that are commonly tossed around in these threads, I'd really enjoy having a comprehensive, glossary sticky that's a single click to access ! I had to look a while to find out what the heck a "RERA" is !

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Re: Does CA mean clear airway or central apnea

Post by palerider » Fri Apr 03, 2015 8:20 pm

Gasper62 wrote:With all the apnea related acronyms and abbreviations that are commonly tossed around in these threads, I'd really enjoy having a comprehensive, glossary sticky that's a single click to access ! I had to look a while to find out what the heck a "RERA" is !
https://www.google.com/search?client=ub ... 8&oe=utf-8

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Re: Does CA mean clear airway or central apnea

Post by Gasper62 » Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:52 pm

Huge help there, bub. LOL


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Re: Does CA mean clear airway or central apnea

Post by palerider » Sat Apr 04, 2015 11:26 am

neither google, nor I, can do *ALL* your thinking for you.

however, a little intelligence applied to the question can help:

https://www.google.com/search?num=100&s ... xH7HvapfLI

https://www.google.com/search?num=100&s ... 1RdpqqWHUI

bub.

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Re: Does CA mean clear airway or central apnea

Post by Gasper62 » Sat Apr 04, 2015 11:55 am

Kind of a moot point, if one is already aware of what the abbreviation stands for and thus, knows the actual term to enter in a Google search. Your intelligence can encompass that, right ? I guess that a glossary thread would be too logical and convenient to have placed in a prominent spot like the sticky area. Maybe just a thread/ link to the SH Glossary wouldn't knock things off-axis too much. My concern is mainly for the folks that might not have thousands of posts and tons of experience navigating online forums....... and the internet as a whole, Bub.

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Re: Does CA mean clear airway or central apnea

Post by palerider » Sat Apr 04, 2015 12:22 pm

Gasper62 wrote:Kind of a moot point, if one is already aware of what the abbreviation stands for and thus, knows the actual term to enter in a Google search. Your intelligence can encompass that, right ? I guess that a glossary thread would be too logical and convenient to have placed in a prominent spot like the sticky area. Maybe just a thread/ link to the SH Glossary wouldn't knock things off-axis too much. My concern is mainly for the folks that might not have thousands of posts and tons of experience navigating online forums....... and the internet as a whole, Bub.
I can totally understand your desire to have everything handed to you on a silver platter, and have the knowledge spoon fed into your gaping maw.

perhaps you can find someone to do that for you. in the meantime, just a *little* searching will turn up lots of glossaries, and information sources. it doesn't really *NEED* to be duplicated here, and have every jargon word highlighted like on a wiki for easy clicky referenceyness.

perhaps, instead of wishing that someone else would do it, you could talk to the forum owners about helping them fill in the blank parts of the wiki that's already linked up there on the nav bar.

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Re: Does CA mean clear airway or central apnea

Post by Gasper62 » Sat Apr 04, 2015 12:34 pm

Jeeez, didn't mean to make waves in yer little pond, BIG FISHy ! LMAO ! I'll be fine without your snot encrusted "assistance". I was only concerned for the ones who seem to flock here knowing little and encounter your foibles and ego. Don't have a CA ! (cardiac arrest)

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Re: Does CA mean clear airway or central apnea

Post by palerider » Sat Apr 04, 2015 1:21 pm

Gasper62 wrote:Jeeez, didn't mean to make waves in yer little pond, BIG FISHy ! LMAO ! I'll be fine without your snot encrusted "assistance". I was only concerned for the ones who seem to flock here knowing little and encounter your foibles and ego. Don't have a CA ! (cardiac arrest)
you've proven yourself great at making snotty comments...

is there any helpfulness from your quarter?


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Re: Does CA mean clear airway or central apnea

Post by Wulfman... » Sat Apr 04, 2015 1:38 pm

Gasper62 wrote:With all the apnea related acronyms and abbreviations that are commonly tossed around in these threads, I'd really enjoy having a comprehensive, glossary sticky that's a single click to access ! I had to look a while to find out what the heck a "RERA" is !
You shouldn't poke grizzly bears with sticks........
There's always the forum "Search" function if you can't find it in the "CPAP Definitions" link (above).

viewtopic/t104917/search.php?keywords=d ... d+acronyms


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Re: Does CA mean clear airway or central apnea

Post by Gasper62 » Sat Apr 04, 2015 2:15 pm

Wulfman... wrote:
Gasper62 wrote:With all the apnea related acronyms and abbreviations that are commonly tossed around in these threads, I'd really enjoy having a comprehensive, glossary sticky that's a single click to access ! I had to look a while to find out what the heck a "RERA" is !
You shouldn't poke grizzly bears with sticks........
There's always the forum "Search" function if you can't find it in the "CPAP Definitions" link (above).

viewtopic/t104917/search.php?keywords=d ... d+acronyms


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Actually, more times than not, a forum search here will produce a list of posts that have the abbreviation/acronym used repeatedly..... without ever stating the definition. Contextual gleaning might eventually give a clue...... The CPAP Definitions link under the "CPAP Wiki Popular Topics " above is something, at least. It is far from what I'd consider comprehensive, or, exhaustive maybe a better term for a sleep deprivation themed forum. It's sort of in the company of commercially oriented headings where it's located and might be discounted or overlooked as a result. Anything Wiki related is seldom my first choice when researching topics and is not the most reliable source, historically. Lot's of other people tend to take Wiki with similar grains of salt. (and "Grizzly Bears" too)