Canadians Being Truthful About Socialistic Medical Care

[BlackSpinner]

Maybe we should just let Eric and Blackspinner climb in the ring and slug it out while the rest of us go and have a beer.

Nah, I can't be bothered. He is to dumb to be a worthy opponent.

[billbolton]

As well as in other countries that have gone to a socialized medical care system.

No, its not.... buy why let any inconvenient truth fact get in the way of a favourite ideological rant!

[SuddenlyWornOut45]

I do like the Tea Party and support them. I am a former GOP guy turned totally DISGUSTED with both of the major parties in the USA. I am no longer registered GOP, Im registered as an "Independent."

I am a strict constructionist on the United States Constitution, if any of you Canadians understand what that means. I am very big on the concept of divided government, I dont like a lot of centralized federal government and I am real, real, REAL big on the Bill of Rights part of the U.S. Constitution...these are the God given rights that give American citizens the individual freedoms and rights we have. That most other countries do not provide for their citizens.

Just face it, life aint fair. You are not "entitled" to anything but the air you breathe. I have nothing against providing medical care for poor and disabled people, in fact I think that is good policy. I do not believe in cruelty. But I do not like the "socialism or communism cures all social and financial ills in society" spiel.

It is important to remember that Canada is still part of the larger British Commonwealth. And that means Canada tends to follow the UK in policies, new laws and so on. I dont think that is good. Canada, while a great country, was afterall the place that American "tories" or traitors went after the Revolutionary war was won against the king of george of England. I dont think Canada is a bad country, I do wish they'd tend to be less socialistic however.

Eric

From what I have seen Eric seems pretty typical of tea partiers.

[BlackSpinner]

I do like the Tea Party and support them. I am a former GOP guy turned totally DISGUSTED with both of the major parties in the USA. I am no longer registered GOP, Im registered as an "Independent."

I am a strict constructionist on the United States Constitution, if any of you Canadians understand what that means. I am very big on the concept of divided government, I dont like a lot of centralized federal government and I am real, real, REAL big on the Bill of Rights part of the U.S. Constitution...these are the God given rights that give American citizens the individual freedoms and rights we have. That most other countries do not provide for their citizens.

Just face it, life aint fair. You are not "entitled" to anything but the air you breathe. I have nothing against providing medical care for poor and disabled people, in fact I think that is good policy. I do not believe in cruelty. But I do not like the "socialism or communism cures all social and financial ills in society" spiel.

It is important to remember that Canada is still part of the larger British Commonwealth. And that means Canada tends to follow the UK in policies, new laws and so on. I dont think that is good. Canada, while a great country, was afterall the place that American "tories" or traitors went after the Revolutionary war was won against the king of george of England. I dont think Canada is a bad country, I do wish they'd tend to be less socialistic however.

Eric

From what I have seen Eric seems pretty typical of tea partiers.

Yes and we burned down the White House.

[ems]

Maybe we should just let Eric and Blackspinner climb in the ring and slug it out while the rest of us go and have a beer.

Nah, I can't be bothered. He is to dumb to be a worthy opponent.

+50 thousand hundred million!!

[Julie]

Anyone who really, truly believes some stuff written on paper a couple of hundred years ago by politicians was 'god given' has much worse problems than worrying about how Canadians handle health care. To whom exactly did god give anything, where, at what time of day and in what form? The b-s you spew is unbelievable. Of course I've heard the god-given phrase all my life, but when I grew up I stopped believing in fairy tales... what's your excuse?

[SuddenlyWornOut45]

the upcoming year is likely to be a bad one for the American democratic party. The current obamacare fiasco down here is leaving most Americans very jaded about obama and the democratic party in general. Like Americans were not already jaded enough. LOL

The predictions down here are that the democrats will lose their control of the U.S. Senate in next Fall's 2014 midterm elections. After that, with obama's continuing loss of popularity in the polls and his lackluster performance on the U.S. economy, there is talk down here of impeaching obama post 2014. After the GOP has taken back control of the Senate...the GOP already controls the other part of our legislature...the House of Representatives.

obama will likely end up being the second American President faced with imminent impeachment in 2015 or early 2016. Second only to Nixon.

If obama gets impeached, get ready for some big and truly radical changes down here in the USA. Expect a country that will return to being more like it used to be. Socialism and communism will be dirty words down here, labor unions will get wiped out again like happened under Reagan in the eighties. obamacare will likely get scrapped and revamped.

Its all about the economy down here, if Americans are not doing well money wise we take it out on our politicians at voting time. Lackluster economy=change of parties in the USA at election time. The thing is, many Americans are FED UP with both of the major parties these days and where that will lead to...socialist types might not like where thats going to lead here in the USA.

Eric

[ems]

I do like the Tea Party and support them.

You do??? I never would have guessed!

[SuddenlyWornOut45]

The founding fathers who threw king george off the East Coast of North America two hundred some years ago, they followed it up by writing a legal document that is hated around the world. Its called the United States Constitution. That legal document is the highest legal document down here in the USA. No law passed anywhere in the USA at a lower level, federal or state, county or municipal is legal if that law goes against the United States Constitution.

The U.S. Constitution was specifically written to prevent excess centralized government power from developing. And if it does develop for a short period, the "system" will take care of it via our laws (Constitution). Again, its divided government. We have divided government at both the federal and the state levels and we also have a form of divided government when we play off the federal government against the fifty state governments down here.

In short, it is IMPOSSIBLE to have a strong centralization of power in the USA, short of extreme conditions such as formally declared war or formally declared martial law.

As far as "God given rights and freedoms," many of the things in the Bill of rights was taken from the Bible. Such as the fifth amendment, which protects Americans from self incrimination in a court of law. Few other countries provide such legal rights to their citizens. The Second Amendment, the right to privately own firearms, it was put in the Constitution two hundred years ago to as yet another safeguard to prevent a dictatorship or excessive government centralization from occurring here.

And it has worked.

Eric

Anyone who really, truly believes some stuff written on paper a couple of hundred years ago by politicians was 'god given' has much worse problems than worrying about how Canadians handle health care. To whom exactly did god give anything, where, at what time of day and in what form? The b-s you spew is unbelievable. Of course I've heard the god-given phrase all my life, but when I grew up I stopped believing in fairy tales... what's your excuse?

[SuddenlyWornOut45]

Hey, I have way more legal rights and freedoms than you have in Canada. If you want to call that "stopping believing in fairy tales," be my guest. I will continue enjoying my American legal individual rights and freedoms.

I will throw you some Internet pixie dust to you and maybe you can start rebelieving in fairy tales...LMAO

Eric

Anyone who really, truly believes some stuff written on paper a couple of hundred years ago by politicians was 'god given' has much worse problems than worrying about how Canadians handle health care. To whom exactly did god give anything, where, at what time of day and in what form? The b-s you spew is unbelievable. Of course I've heard the god-given phrase all my life, but when I grew up I stopped believing in fairy tales... what's your excuse?

[SleepyBobR]

Julie, the US Constitution contains much wisdom and I think the United States would be in better shape today if Americans themselves paid more attention to it than they have in recent decades. Barack Obama appears to agree with your assessment of it as just "some stuff written on paper a couple of hundred years ago" and many Americans agree. Ben Franklin famously said that the US is "A republic, if you can keep it". I'm afraid they are not. Freedom is more than just some people talking.

Eric, there was a time when Americans had more rights and freedoms than Canadians but I don't think that's the case any longer.

[Lukie]

Canadian care is better than no care which is a reality for many working Americans.

[SuddenlyWornOut45]

obama is nothing but a bump in the road, he will be gone soon. Many Americans are the most angry and most disgusted with our government these days since possibly...the Revolutionary War era. Like I said, if the GOP takes the Senate back in 2014 and obama gets impeached, be prepared for some major house cleaning down here. And it may become physical. I am not talking about myself, but millions of Americans "becoming physical" all at the same time.

The socialists down here will be target #1. A lot of Americans want the Constitution respected. Americans like their individualism, their freedoms and Americans like money. When those things are being targeted...by anybody...Americans will eventually clean somebody's clock. Foreign OR domestic.

Eric

Julie, the US Constitution contains much wisdom and I think the United States would be in better shape today if Americans themselves paid more attention to it than they have in recent decades. Barack Obama appears to agree with your assessment of it as just "some stuff written on paper a couple of hundred years ago" and many Americans agree. Ben Franklin famously said that the US is "A republic, if you can keep it". I'm afraid they are not. Freedom is more than just some people talking.

Eric, there was a time when Americans had more rights and freedoms than Canadians but I don't think that's the case any longer.

[John from Brookston]

Lobbyists get paid pretty good; I'm sure the one he is listening to got big bucks.
He's probably bitter because no one is paying him--just confused as to who to be mad at.

I figure he's one of those trolls that spends all day spreading "joy" on multiple forums for 50 Cents a post from FreedomWorks.
We got a couple of 'em who make $10 a day from just our local fishwrapper's website.

[John from Brookston]

"obama will likely end up being the second American President faced with imminent impeachment in 2015 or early 2016. Second only to Nixon.

If obama gets impeached..."

In your wildest wet dreams, jocko.
"Presiding While Black" is not a "High Crime or Misdemeanor".

And better add Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton to that list and strike Trickee Dickee, who bailed before Articles could be brought against him..