Pulse Ox with History - Can't find one...

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Pulse Ox with History - Can't find one...

Post by infntyx2 » Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:26 pm

Hey All,

Still continuing to struggle for the past many months (after high initial success). My numbers on the Resmed S9 (with humidifier) are excellent with no reported leaks to speak of but still continuing to deal with some daytime drowsiness and waking headaches on the top of head directly behind the eyes. I've most recently tried a Respironics Wisp with mixed results but always fall back to my reliable Respironics True Blue mask. Holding out on the next sleep study to rule out anything I could possibly resolve. My question is this... is anyone aware of a pulse ox machine that can be bought/borrowed/other than will store a night's worth of information? Everything I've seen for purchase thus far seems to be a simple pulse ox finger clip that only shows "live" instant data. I am wanting to see how much my oxygen levels fluctuate throughout the night. My machine is just using standard room air. I've tried Provigil and Nuvigil (both prescribed stimulants) but I believe it only masks the drowsiness and causes my heart to race (palpatations) and have stopped taking it as a result.

Ted

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Re: Pulse Ox with History - Can't find one...

Post by kaiasgram » Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:38 pm

Ted, this is a reputable seller of recording pulse oximeters: http://www.pulseoxstore.com

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Re: Pulse Ox with History - Can't find one...

Post by wm_hess » Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:30 am

Ted,
I second the pulseoxstore as a great store. Here is the url for the overnight recording pulse oximeters from that store.

http://www.pulseoxstore.com/Downloadable-Pulse-Ox.html

-Bill

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Re: Pulse Ox with History - Can't find one...

Post by STL Mark » Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:47 am

You have received good advise on a source for your desires. My thought to contribute is that the wrist style units like the CMS-50F are very easy to wear throughout the night. Tape can be added if needed to keep things positioned. The extra money spent on the wrist type units is not wasted.

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Post by kteague » Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:37 am

Can you have your doctor order an overnight oximetry? If you're already working with a DME that should be a fairly easy process.

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Re: Pulse Ox with History - Can't find one...

Post by kteague » Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:45 am

Forgot to mention something else - does your machine report any troublesome duration of events that occur?

This is a long shot, but have you seen an opthamologist lately? Some studies indicate increased eye pressures in apnea patients, other reports suggest increased eye pressure with CPAP use. Maybe it depends on what the initial vulnerabilities and tendencies are. But there is a type of glaucoma that is painful. Wouldn't hurt to rule that out.

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Re: Pulse Ox with History - Can't find one...

Post by Papit » Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:49 pm

+ 1 Great unit.
STL Mark wrote:You have received good advise on a source for your desires. My thought to contribute is that the wrist style units like the CMS-50F are very easy to wear throughout the night. Tape can be added if needed to keep things positioned. The extra money spent on the wrist type units is not wasted.

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Re: Pulse Ox with History - Can't find one...

Post by kaiasgram » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:34 pm

STL Mark wrote:You have received good advise on a source for your desires. My thought to contribute is that the wrist style units like the CMS-50F are very easy to wear throughout the night. Tape can be added if needed to keep things positioned. The extra money spent on the wrist type units is not wasted.
Yes -- I have the CMS-50F and agree with STL Mark about the comfort and the tape.

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Re: Pulse Ox with History - Can't find one...

Post by NeedHelp2 » Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:11 pm

I have a new CMS-50F that I can ship tomorrow for $125 total if you are in US.

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Re: Pulse Ox with History - Can't find one...

Post by wm_hess » Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:22 pm

I too have the CMS-50F wrist model, and like it. Be careful though of the newest version of the 50F, as the pulseox store states that it is not compatible with Sleepyhead. Other models on the page state they're not compatible with Mac's as well. Refer to the url I mentioned above.

-Bill

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Re: Pulse Ox with History - Can't find one...

Post by infntyx2 » Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:02 pm

wm_hess wrote:I too have the CMS-50F wrist model, and like it. Be careful though of the newest version of the 50F, as the pulseox store states that it is not compatible with Sleepyhead. Other models on the page state they're not compatible with Mac's as well. Refer to the url I mentioned above.

-Bill

Thanks all for the good advice. Just what I was looking for... I will contact my doctor about the overnight oxygen test. As for the device you are referencing... it would appear that most people are not happy with the software that comes with the device. I see the mention of not being compatible with Sleephead. Is this the more popular software for this type of monitoring? Also, any input on the CMS-50F and the rechargeable battery lifespan? Is the battery user replaceable and can one easily find a replacement? I tend to prefer the non-rechargeables, especially if they sit for long periods on non-use.

Ted

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Re: Pulse Ox with History - Can't find one...

Post by wm_hess » Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:29 am

Hi Ted

Your profile states you have a S9 Autoset. If you use Sleepyhead (or ResScan) software, you can look and see each and every breath you took last night. You can see if your mask is delivering therapy, or is it leaking excessively. It shows when you have apneas, when you're having periods of snoring, and a lot more information than I understand. There are a lot of very knowledgeable people on this board who can help you understand what the data is telling you. It's not as accurate as a sleep study, but it is good.

When you use a pulse oximeter and have the time on both devices synced, you can see for example that at 2:30 you had low oxygen levels, but you were leaking badly and not receiving the proper therapy.

Having said how wonderful sleepyhead is, please also understand that it is BETA software. It's not perfect, but more like a work in progress. There may be issues sometimes where the information is confusing, or a glitch may cause the data to be skewed or corrupted. If you search this board for sleepyhead you'll find a lot more information than can be put in one message.

If you decide you'd like to try sleepyhead, it can be found here http://sourceforge.net/projects/sleepyhead/

The issue I mentioned was that according to the Pulseoxstore, you cannot import the data from the newest version of the CMS-50F into Sleepyhead, so it may be more difficult to compare data. I do not have the newest version of the 50F, so I have zero experience with the current software.

Hope this helps!

-Bill

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Re: Pulse Ox with History - Can't find one...

Post by NeedHelp2 » Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:42 am

CMS 50f is now sold.

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Re: Pulse Ox with History - Can't find one...

Post by ChrisD » Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:19 am

There is the CMS50D plus unit.

It's $57.00 at http://www.pulseoximeter.org/cms50d-plus.html I ordered mine through them and had no issues with it.

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Re: Pulse Ox with History - Can't find one...

Post by Papit » Mon Jul 29, 2013 2:12 pm

I suspect the main and possibly only significant difference between the old and "new" version of the CMS-50F pulse-ox is that (1) they mount the wrist strap on the unit for you (big deal? Nope) instead of giving it to you loose in the box, and (2) they now use a standard miniUSB connector in place of the archaic circular pins connector where the finger sensor cable mounts on the pulse-ox (a good improvement imo). If I'm correct, the instruction set in my signature line will work just fine for the old and "new" versions of both the 50E and 50F in inserting your pulse-ox graphs into SleepyHead.

As far as rechargeable battery lifespan is concerned, my 50F continues to perform for over a year now.
infntyx2 wrote:
wm_hess wrote:I too have the CMS-50F wrist model, and like it. Be careful though of the newest version of the 50F, as the pulseox store states that it is not compatible with Sleepyhead. Other models on the page state they're not compatible with Mac's as well. Refer to the url I mentioned above.

-Bill

Thanks all for the good advice. Just what I was looking for... I will contact my doctor about the overnight oxygen test. As for the device you are referencing... it would appear that most people are not happy with the software that comes with the device. I see the mention of not being compatible with Sleephead. Is this the more popular software for this type of monitoring? Also, any input on the CMS-50F and the rechargeable battery lifespan? Is the battery user replaceable and can one easily find a replacement? I tend to prefer the non-rechargeables, especially if they sit for long periods on non-use.

Ted

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