CPAP Basics - 3

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Re: CPAP Basics - 3

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Re: CPAP Basics - 3

Post by NotLazyJustTired » Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:44 am

This may be my last post here, but just so that we are all on the same page, here is what we all agreed to when we joined:
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Re: CPAP Basics - 3

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Re: CPAP Basics - 3

Post by NotLazyJustTired » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:27 am

I guess it won't be my last post. I got a nice PM from Pugsy, and as usual, she has given me a new perspective.

So, to get this a bit more ON topic I thought I would share an experience I had last night that I thought was pretty interesting.
It seems the older I get the more susceptible I am towards allergies, particularly tree pollen. Due to an overly cold spring our trees are just starting to bud out. The pine pollen in particular is horrible here. The cars on the last few days are just coated in yellow orange dust. You can taste it when you swallow it is that bad. Yesterday it was particularly bad since we hadn't had any rain in a while.

My doc and I haven't really dealt with the allergy stuff too much since I have so much other junk going on. I do have a prescription for Flonase, but it really hasn't been working for me and I suspect it has effected my sleep quality, but not too sure on that. I have been doing pretty well with saline rinse.

I struggled with it all day yesterday, but when I got home it really got worse. I think it was because my wife left the back door open all day since it was so "nice" outside. I was miserable. It almost felt like a bad cold. I took a few squirts of saline rinse and that opened me up for an hour or two. I was really growing concerned that I was going to have a horrible night with all this going on. Just before bed, I put a hypoallergenic filter in the S9 and did one more good rinse. My logic was that if I had a good clean snout and breathed filtered air all night I would be fine. I dropped the temp down on the ClimateLine from 84 to 78 as I noticed the past few nights it seemed a little warm (in keeping with the weather change).

I woke up this morning feeling great with the lowest AHI I've had all week, 1.1. The nasal passages were both completely open, at least until I got to work. Maybe Darth Vader had it right with the fulltime CPAP thing. I think it was the combination of getting the nasal passages clean, using a hypoallergenic filter and dialing in the right amount of humidity. In any event, it is a outcome I hope I can repeat often.

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Re: CPAP Basics - 3

Post by jnk » Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:06 am

Sheriff Bob had a day off and decided to ride his horse to the next town over for a change of pace. He went into the saloon in that town and ordered a beer. While there, a city slicker came into the saloon and announced to all the cowboys in the saloon, "I'm here to sell this book teaching you all how to be cowboys. I wrote it based mostly on conversations I overheard in saloons throughout the West."

Sheriff Bob was a bit offended, but slightly amused at the same time. He thought to himself, how can this flat-shoed fella hope to sell something in a saloon based on stuff he heard for free from cowboys giving one another helpful hints in saloons? Bob wondered if the owner of the saloon would throw the seller out. But then Sheriff Bob remembered that the saloon owner in that town had set up his saloon as basically a public place where many, many things were offered for sale, whether spoken or unspoken. Besides, Sheriff Bob understood that he himself had no authority in that town, since it wasn't the town where he was Sheriff, and his opinion was just one of many. So Bob decided to sit back and see what would happen.

A few of the cowboys sneered and spit at the slicker. A few of the cowboys were insulted to the point where they tried to pick a fight with the slicker. Sheriff Bob thought to himself, those boys may be insulted, perhaps rightly so, but they sure aren't helping their town to have a reputation for hospitality. In fact, their spitting and picking a fight was probably a bigger issue than what the slicker was trying to do.

At that moment, a new homesteader walked into the saloon and heard the slicker hawking his book, so the newcomer walked over to the slicker and bought one of the books. The seller then took an hour or two to help that newcomer and invited the newcomer to write him any time for more advice if he ran into a problem. Sheriff Bob then came to understand that although the information in that book was common knowledge to most of the cowboys in the saloon, it wasn't to the new arrival. And if the new arrival didn't have the time to spend in the saloon learning from everyone in the town, the book represented a real value to him. The newcomer may simply have felt more comfortable reading the book than trying to buddy up to the rude, inhospitable cowboys who felt they owned the saloon because of having sat in there so long. Sheriff Bob concluded that although information is often given away for free, that doesn't make it wrong to sell a book on the same subject. It might even be helpful.

At that point, Sheriff Bob was glad the saloon owner didn't throw the slicker out on his butt but just let him be. Maybe the slicker only sold one book that day, and maybe many of the rest of the saloon patrons were insulted, but Sheriff Bob concluded that eventually the slicker would ride to another town once he saw that nobody else in that town would buy the book. And then everyone could go back to business as usual.

So Sheriff Bob walked up to the book seller, introduced himself, and told the seller he would be welcome to come to Sheriff Bob's town next. Sheriff Bob even said he would personally buy Book-Seller Jim a beer once he arrived. Although Sheriff Bob considered what Book-Seller Jim was doing to be a bit silly in some ways, Bob wanted his town to have the reputation of being a hospitable town, and he considered that more important than fending off the occasional book seller in the saloon.

And they all lived happily ever after.

Amen.

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Re: CPAP Basics - 3

Post by kaiasgram » Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:54 am

jnk wrote:...a city slicker came into the saloon and announced to all the cowboys in the saloon, "I'm here to sell this book teaching you all how to be cowboys. I wrote it based mostly on conversations I overheard in saloons throughout the West."
Thanks jnk. Your city slicker was up front and honest about his agenda from the very beginning. That may not be the point of your story, but IMHO maybe it's the moral of the story.

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Re: CPAP Basics - 3

Post by jnk » Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:12 pm

kaiasgram wrote:
jnk wrote:...a city slicker came into the saloon and announced to all the cowboys in the saloon, "I'm here to sell this book teaching you all how to be cowboys. I wrote it based mostly on conversations I overheard in saloons throughout the West."
Thanks jnk. Your city slicker was up front and honest about his agenda from the very beginning. That may not be the point of your story, but IMHO maybe it's the moral of the story.
Good point.

Yes, in the story, the seller even wore a wooden sign, hanging over his shoulders on a rope, that said:
Author of the book "Cowboy Well & Feel Great, A definitive guide"
For Saloon-goers, enter code YV76Q for 50% off.
All the basic info for about the same price as a 20-pound bag of coffee!
How much more up-front and honest about his agenda could he be?

But, yes, he wore the sign right away, from the time he walked in.

If the seller had sneaked in, played a few rounds of cards, pretended to be looking to move into the town and all, a number of those cowboys would have had every right to feel betrayed and hornswaggled when the selling started.

IMO, it's always best to be up front with a group of people one hopes to sell to. That's just good business. And doing otherwise is likely a way to find oneself drinking alone until one apologizes for it.

There are always ways to correct a story when it starts to go off-track.

Thanks, Kaisagram!
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Re: CPAP Basics - 3

Post by SleepingUgly » Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:24 pm

Ha! I liked your story!
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Re: CPAP Basics - 3

Post by carbonman » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:12 pm

jnk wrote: And they all lived happily ever after.
Amen.
....ahhh, you made that up.
You can't fool us.

We may not have been sleeping at night...

.....but it wasn't last night.
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Re: CPAP Basics - 3

Post by jnk » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:17 pm

carbonman wrote:
jnk wrote: And they all lived happily ever after.
Amen.
....ahhh, you made that up.
You can't fool us.

We may not have been sleeping at night...

.....but it wasn't last night.
There you go trying to cloud my imagination with your reality again.


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Re: CPAP Basics - 3

Post by Todzo » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:30 pm

mollete wrote:
Todzo wrote:[may those who would disrupt our business here be like chaff before the wind]
OK, who forgot to flush and left the todzo in the bowl?
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Re: CPAP Basics - 3

Post by carbonman » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:54 pm

jnk wrote:There you go trying to cloud my imagination with your reality again.
I do what I can.

PS
Class of '08, coming up on 5yrs.
Where is the party?

Are we all rid'n the D train into Downtown
and party the night away......
sleep hygiene be damned .
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Re: CPAP Basics - 3

Post by SleepingUgly » Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:24 pm

Speaking for myself....

While using CPAPtalk.com, you will not:

post any material, or links to any material that is (at our sole discretion)...

knowingly false -- no

defamatory -- questionable

inaccurate -- well, if I KNEW it was inaccurate, it would fall under "knowingly false" (Are we using an objective or subjective test here?)

abusive -- no

vulgar -- absolutely!!

hateful -- not in my opinion

harassing -- not in my opinion

obscene -- I think so, but I'm not sure how that differs from profane or sexually oriented or vulgar (Does double jeopardy apply here?)

profane -- Hell yes!!

sexually oriented -- Yes, yes, yes!! Remember after My Big Fat Tonsillectomy when we were trying to find a man for Jaylee? Those were the days...

threatening -- no

invasive of a person's privacy -- like when I posted a picture of that guy's neck or mollete with Rested Gal? Oh wait, that wasn't me.

otherwise violates any law -- Could someone bring up that link again of those crazy laws like you can't have sex between two hotel beds in Idaho or whatever? I think I might have violated one of those.

Anyway, this really helps me with my Bucket List. I still have more to do before I hit the veil.
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Re: CPAP Basics - 3

Post by SleepWellCPAP » Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:45 pm

Hello All,

Wow, I didn't thing this post was going to go viral. Here I thought highlighting humidity level in a person's circuit was going to be mundane.

Just updated the signature line so hopefully it will be more palatable to everyone.

What a busy week, whew. I got a call a little bit ago from a person I set up on Monday. Person doing very well, but is needing to adjust the climate line temperature down. I read in the last post how it worked well for someone, allergie issues I think were mentioned, will be interesting to see what happens.

Have to say I really liked everyone's comments. Some more than others of course. But then how often does one have the honor of being given the moniker of "scumbag" in public. Will have to wear that sign around my neck in the saloon. Great story by the way!

I do however, have to clarify for the record, I have not taken anything from this website to use in what I wrote. In fact, I may have pulled up this site briefly years ago once or twice, but that was it. My content was taken strickly from my own experience working with CPAP users and was written with the new user in mind.

Have to run for now, have a great day!

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Re: CPAP Basics - 3

Post by CPAP1010 » Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:37 pm

I know huh, going viral.

I was new to this forum once upon a time. I tried writing the P's to success:
Practice
Patience
Persistence

Boy did I have another thing coming. I thought it would help but little do I know more people would reply to how bad it was then actually help. What I learned was that most love being able to tell someone how wrong they are rather than right. I guess its only human nature to slow down to see the lights flashing then to see the bluebonnets bloom.

Love peace and soul train to all!!!!

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