If you become "CPAP intolerant"

chdurie2 · Post by **chdurie2** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 2:32 am

hey darth---

for some reason, my post to you seems not to have posted. i was speaking my own views. and i'm glad you spoke up to me. i know nothing about what happens on other sleep sites, but why are you asking me why i didn't react to someone else's presentation (tommyboy's?) that i didn't see? nonetheless, i apologize if you feel that my posts prevented you from gaining information from dr. smith. maybe you want to email him and invite him back here? i promise i'll shut up if i'm around so that others can ask the questions they want.

caroline

Sleepless on LI · Post by **Sleepless on LI** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:52 am

Swordz (my love ), Darth and Snoozie,
Very good posts. I have to say, I have always felt the beauty of this site is the ability to have all sides of the coin presented so you can pick and choose what you feel is right individually to entertain in your own treatment of this affliction. And like they say when it comes to radio and TV about changing the channel/station if you don't like what's on applies here, too. If you don't like what you're reading, for goodness sakes, go on to the next thread or don't visit. It's totally your choice. Nothing to get your knickers in a knot over and certainly no need to become insulting or rude.

Dr. Smith,
God bless you. You have the patience and the courtesy of a saint. That's all I'm going to say. My unsolicited advice is, don't let the words of one or two angry people keep you from posting. That would really destroy the intent of this site, which is to get the information out to everyone who wants to read it. And, in my opinion, I'll repeat, I believe that's what you were trying to do.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 2:47 pm

Snoozie, I'm confused. I thought being on cpap eliminated snoring. If you're still snoring on cpap doesn't that mean your pressure isn't high enough?

Snoozie wrote:Apparently not. My pressure is high enough. I have trouble breathing if it is any higher. Have not figured this all out yet. I am a possible candidate for BiPap and also possible central apnea. Don't know exactly what is going on - just know that when my pressure was set higher, I had problems. I don't snore a lot, but occasionally I wake myself up with a brief snore, even with mouth taped. Cpap definitely has helped a lot though.

Central Sleep Apnea is a whole other ball of wax. Did your PSG indicate you have CSA?

I get what you're saying about feeling like your pressure is high enough because otherwise you have trouble exhaling, but that is different than having your pressure high enough to properly treat your apnea. When a person is titrated in the sleep lab, part of the correct pressure determination is the point at which snoring is eliminated, so it stands to reason your's isn't high enough. Quite a catch-22, in that you aren't able to tolerate the pressure you need to eliminate the snoring. I think you're right about being a candidate for a bi-level machine and would definitely contact your doctor. If you're going to use cpap every night it might as well be doing the job it's supposed to do.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 6:01 pm

Dr. Kent Smith DDS, after viewing your website, there is only one conclusion one can come to, you have a very nice and first class practice established there over the years which is an acomplishment by itself. Where did you attend Dental School (didn't see that in your bio)?

It also looks like you have a great group of folks employed on your staff (and I don't know a single one of them).

Great Job.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 6:17 pm

Thank you, Mrs. Smith.

Man, I hate sock puppets.

Snoredog · Post by **Snoredog** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 6:21 pm

Anonymous wrote:Dr. Kent Smith DDS, after viewing your website, there is only one conclusion one can come to, you have a very nice and first class practice established there over the years which is an acomplishment by itself. Where did you attend Dental School (didn't see that in your bio)?

It also looks like you have a great group of folks employed on your staff (and I don't know a single one of them).

Great Job.

Nope Guest the above was from me, logging in here every visit is a PIA but I wrote the above and meant every word of it.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 7:14 pm

Dr. Kent Smith DDS, after viewing your website, there is only one conclusion one can come to, your establishment is the Taj Mahal of dentist offices. I have to agree with Caroline, "It's really hard for me to hear your message when you have not been introduced by a creditable source and your offices appear to be fancier than most homes in very posh neighborhoods. We can tell that you invest a lot of money in cosmetics attached to your practice, but there are are some who may not view that as an attractive credential. And no doubt, with the services and hype that, in my opinion, go beyond making a patient comfortable with dentistry, you are an aggressive marketer. It does not mean that you are not a competent dentist, only that it's hard for me to see you beyond the flashiness."
I guess it just goes to show how different people are impressed by different things and different people have distinctly different impressions of others. One question though, am I permitted to advertise on this forum for my personal practice? This is the first time I've seen it done and I want to know the rules. Judging from Dr. Smith's entries, it is evident the website doesn't need to be cpap-related in order to be permitted to include a link to it in my posts. This could open up a whole new world of advertising for each of us, irrespective of our field. In addition to advertising our personal business with website links in every entry, can we also include graphic ads?
Thanks,
Becca

Kent Smith · Post by **Kent Smith** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 7:30 pm

Thank you, Snoredog. I went to Baylor College of Dentistry.

Becca, have you seen the "curious" thread? Everyone is giving their biographical information over there.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 8:11 pm

Kent Smith wrote:Becca, have you seen the "curious" thread? Everyone is giving their biographical information over there.

Ken, I don't understand what you mean by this. Are you saying you are now going to be posting your biographical information on the "curious" thread instead of on this one? Are you saying I can advertise for my personal practice by supplying website links only in posts in the "curious" thread? But you advertise for your personal practice with website links which you automatically include in every post, regardless of the thread's topic. Please explain.
Again, I'm curious about the rules for advertising here. Does anyone know, in addition to advertising for our personal business with website links in every entry, can we also include graphic ads?
Thanks,
Becca

Kent Smith · Post by **Kent Smith** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 8:33 pm

Wish I could help you with your answer about graphic ads, Becca. Maybe you can use the Ask Question function at the top of the page for that.

I was just trying to help you since you wanted to talk about your business, and the "curious" thread seemed like a good place,m since everyone was doing it over there. No, I don't plan on posting there, as it appears to be a place for CPAP users.

If you are merely being facetious with your questions, I am sorry. I was taking you literally.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:13 pm

Kent Smith wrote:No, I don't plan on posting there, as it appears to be a place for CPAP users.

This entire forum is for CPAP users and the threads aren't restricted. If we didn't have OSA and weren't on CPAP, we wouldn't be here in the first place. (Unless we were trying to sell something.)
Thanks for your answers. I will try contacting the administrator about using this site to advertise for my personal practice, as you have. I mistakenly assumed you had checked into the policy before you began advertising here. We could all use a helping hand in drumming up business and getting more clients to increase our bottom line, and that includes me. This thread has proven the free advertising done here is invaluable. I'm surprised we haven't seen this forum used for this purpose prior to this, but feel confident we'll be seeing a lot more of it now.
Thanks,
Becca

Sleepless on LI · Post by **Sleepless on LI** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:15 pm

Okay. I really don't understand what is going on here. Dr. Smith only made us aware of something that is going on in the world of OSA, which is the fact that dental appliances are an option to explore for, as he stated, mild to moderate apnea sufferers. He did not, from what I've read, hold himself out as THE person to go to, nor did he offer anything other than to answer any questions any of us might have about these appliances. He did not give his phone number and state he was willing to take any of us on as long distance patients, yet he is the brunt now of all sorts of accusations.
This seems to have become a thread where instead of taking his information as given, it has become a personal attack on one man's credibility and intentions. What is going on here? So he has fancy offices. I live in NY and many oustanding and credible doctors have offices that make my home look like a hovel. That doesn't mean they have bad intentions or are quacks. Many of them work extremely hard and have offices that represent the fact that they do make a lot of money. Doesn't mean they're ripping anyone off or are doing anything shady. Why should anyone attack someone's credibility because they have beautiful offices? My goodness!
I find what is going on in this thread offensive and appalling. The man has tried to offer assistance and has now become the target of poison arrows and insinuations. I really feel bad for this guy and I wish this could just go back to a web site where people try to help each instead of a contest of who can be the most clever in their insulting posts towards one person.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:32 pm

Sleepless on LI wrote:I find what is going on in this thread offensive and appalling. The man has tried to offer assistance and has now become the target of poison arrows and insinuations. I really feel bad for this guy and I wish this could just go back to a web site where people try to help each instead of a contest of who can be the most clever in their insulting posts towards one person.

I agree, Sleepless. We should be thanking this man for opening a whole new world of free advertising at Cpaptalk.com. The possibilities for increased revenue are endless. As far as the condition of his real estate, you're right. The fact of the matter is, I would be thrilled to have as nice an office as Mr. Smith has shown us through the free advertising he obtained here at Cpaptalk.
Becca

Sleepless on LI · Post by **Sleepless on LI** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:34 pm

Becca,

This is exactly what I'm talking about. Thanks for proving my point.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:50 pm

Sleepless,

You're so welcome. I knew we were on the same side of this issue. I'm glad someone else is brave enough to admit the real goal here should not be to criticize Mr. Smith's efforts, but to capitalize on his ingenuity. I'll say it again, we could all use a helping hand in drumming up business and getting more clients to increase our bottom line, and that includes me. This thread has proven the free advertising done here is invaluable. I'm surprised we haven't seen this forum used for this purpose prior to this, but feel confident we'll be seeing a lot more of it now.
Becca

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