Camping with CPAP?

sleepycyclist · Post by **sleepycyclist** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:53 am

Hi,

I've only been on CPAP for about a month now and I was wondering if anyone had any experience camping with your cpap. I've always loved the outdoors and camping for extended periods of time. Perhaps I will try a oral appliance when I can afford to get one but for now I'd like to see if anyone has tried out batteries for their machines and how they have worked.

Thanks!

Carl LaFong · Post by **Carl LaFong** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:39 am

My camping days are over but there have been many, many posts about this. Solutions range from rechargeable battery units to auto jump-starters. Do a search. There are a couple guys here with good info. No reason to give up what you love doing just because of OSA.

Sheriff Buford · Post by **Sheriff Buford** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:40 am

There have been a lot of discussion on battery backups on this forum. Do a search for battery, power outage or camping for the info. I know nothing about electricity, so I could not be of any help.

Sheriff

NYcpap · Post by **NYcpap** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:10 am

I use the Provent device when camping.

jamiswolf · Post by **jamiswolf** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:20 pm

Sleepycyclist,
I'm an old biker myself. I see you use an SV machine. That indicates central apneas. If it were me, I wouldn't go w/o the machine. I use a Respironics machine and to connect it to 12 volts, it's as simple as buying an adapter. Perhaps it could be that easy with your machine...

You didn't mention what vehicle you will be using. A car or truck battery should get you through the night. A motorcycle battery is a different issue and perhaps a small car battery could be strapped onto your rear luggage carrier...or some such improvisation to ensure adequate power.

Have fun and better get out there before it gets too cold,
Jamis

sleepycyclist · Post by **sleepycyclist** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:34 pm

Thanks for the responses, I looked back at other posts and found some more good info.

NYCAP,

how has provent worked for you? I wonder if you used this in conjunction with a oral appliance if it would work even better.

Jamiwolf,

I drive a ford explorer so I think the battery should be sufficient. So are you saying you have an adapter that can hook up to car batteries?? Or a cigaret adapter for recharging a Lithium ion batery? As I understand it my central apneas only happen when my body is introduced to positive air pressure. My initial study w/out cpap had no centrals but during titration when I was on bipap I had a lot of them.

Thanks!

NYcpap · Post by **NYcpap** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:46 pm

The Provent works fine for me. I have mild and uncomplicated OSA though.

Perrybucsdad · Post by **Perrybucsdad** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:50 pm

You could always get a gas powered generator and place it right beside the CPAP device (NOT!!) .... just joking as it would cure you of needing the CPAP device for good and we wouldn't want that.

jamiswolf · Post by **jamiswolf** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:55 pm

Sleepycyclist wrote: I drive a ford explorer so I think the battery should be sufficient. So are you saying you have an adapter that can hook up to car batteries?? Or a cigaret adapter for recharging a Lithium ion batery? As I understand it my central apneas only happen when my body is introduced to positive air pressure. My initial study w/out cpap had no centrals but during titration when I was on bipap I had a lot of them.

Check this out. Looks pretty straightforward to me. But for your Resmed machine, you may have to do some research.
https://www.cpap.com/productpage/respir ... -cord.html

So it sounds like you have complex apnea. I doubt that anyone on this board would say, go ahead risk it. So I better not either. If your apnea was bad enough to warrant treatment, then why risk ruining a camping trip by leaving machine at home?

And even if your machine doesn't have a 12v socket on it, you could always get a small 12v to 110 inverter to run the cpap. I used one in an RV I had to run a small TV/VCR.
Jamis

Perrybucsdad · Post by **Perrybucsdad** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:06 pm

I would think if you use a marine battery and all that jazz, you could possibly pick up a solar charger to charge the battery during the day. I'm sure Archangel could chime in on all this as he is very versed on this type of stuff.

Roger2 · Post by **Roger2** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:18 pm

Perrybucsdad wrote:You could always get a gas powered generator . . .

Joking aside, that is what I used early this last summer on a two night fishing trip. Unfortunately I also have to have my concentrator hooked up or else take a couple of large lox tanks. They can be really challenging to secure in the back of my Jeep but I frequently take the smaller one (100 pounder) and that will normally last for about 4 days using it just to sleep with and filling the portable from it for daytime use.

I wanted to try the generator to see how well it worked and it does pull both the cpap and the concentrator. I will probably need to use that this coming spring when I make my usual two trips to our mission churches Northern Canada. That usually takes two trips since four are in the Yukon Territory and one in the Northwest Territories. The second trip is usually to the Yukon Territory and upper British Columbia and I normally use a travel trailer for those trips. It seems like most of the time there is no hookups where I stop along the way which leaves the generator. If it were not for the need of external O2 I would be able to get by with the two RV batteries and using one of those converter devices. The batteries I was told are the largest made for RV use and with them I can be totally self sufficient for about 10 days. They also recharge as I am driving.

Yamaha has a very quiet and small generator for under $1000 you might want to look at. Just a thought.

Roger

GumbyCT · Post by **GumbyCT** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:52 pm

sleepycyclist wrote:I drive a ford explorer so I think the battery should be sufficient. So are you saying you have an adapter that can hook up to car batteries??

You need to check your owners manual to see what they recommend. I am not a Re$med user but I do know they like to complicate things and then over price them.

IF it was a Respironics then you prob could just hook up.

Do more research here and/or ask your DME for advice. Do let us know what you find.

jamiswolf · Post by **jamiswolf** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:23 pm

SC,
Here's a thread on what you need.

viewtopic/t23880/Adapt-SV-12-Volt-Adapter.html

Apparently it's a 30v converter. I didn't read the whole thread. Hope I got the right machine.
J

GumbyCT · Post by **GumbyCT** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:33 pm

jamiswolf wrote:SC,
Here's a thread on what you need.

viewtopic/t23880/Adapt-SV-12-Volt-Adapter.html

Apparently it's a 30v converter. I didn't read the whole thread. Hope I got the right machine.
J

Caution - while the link is a good reference the info is from 2007. Who know if Re$med has changed the design of the ASV since then.

You'd think by now they would realize that a cigarette lighter plug goes into a 12 volt power source.

jamiswolf · Post by **jamiswolf** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:21 pm

Gumby wrote: You'd think by now they would realize that a cigarette lighter plug goes into a 12 volt power source.

DaveBolton wrote (in 2007): the VPAP Adapt SV needs a 30 Volt DC input. The Resmed DC-30 adapter takes a 12V DC input and delivers a 30V DC output.

So Gumby, it does plug in to 12v and just converts it. (through magic)

this link is for a manual of the machine in question and under "specs" on the right side lists the DC-30 as the appropriate power supply. I don't know how old the manual is and apparently these mysterious DC-30 power supplies are impossible to find. With a time machine, they were available on Australia eBay in 2007.

http://www.resmed.com/au/assets/documen ... nz_eng.pdf

I like a challenge but I failed on this one,
Jamis

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