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Re: Most of my posts were deleted

Post by Bright Choice » Sun Jun 05, 2011 12:32 pm

I just have to pipe in again:

I am appalled! What kind of an agenda would have someone have against you personally? It is absolutely nuts!!!
Everyone has different opinions and ways of expressing themselves and we won't all agree on things but no one has the right to delete a post unless it is against the rules of the admins. I am beginning to learn some of the "personalities" and whose opinions I respect more than others but everyone has the right to be heard. And, it is not as if you are abrasive or not helpful.

You are sooo generous of your time. Whenever I go to a post to take a look or make a comment, there you are already with an informative and supportive post.

Please please please don't take this personally or loose your good heart in this process. You are so valuable to this group!!!

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Re: Most of my posts were deleted

Post by Guest » Sun Jun 05, 2011 12:38 pm

SleepingUgly wrote:Deleting this many of my posts required someone to search for my posts only and delete each of thousands of posts. It required a great deal of time to do this. Someone organized, systematic, and deliberate.
Maybe it's a glitch. Did you try rebooting?

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Re: Most of my posts were deleted

Post by -SWS » Sun Jun 05, 2011 1:43 pm

SleepingUgly wrote:It was mildly annoying/amusing when my first post on my thread, "Can I have my own thread?" disappeared. But those of you have been around awhile might remember when I posted my "I don't have a bona fide diagnosis" thread before my OSA diagnosis and uploaded a table of stats from all my previous sleep studies, as several of you commented on it, including Dr. Park. Then I posted a thread labeled "I have a bona fide diagnosis -- epilogue to my story". They are both gone:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=47828&p=479742&hili ... is#p433718

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=52012&p=480562&hili ... ue#p479667

And you may recall my methodical documentation of my surgery and recovery? Gone too:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=53157&st=0&sk=t&sd= ... fe#p491926

I came here with decades of misdiagnosis and NO sleep disordered breathing diagnosis when I arrived at cpaptalk, ON an empirical trial of CPAP. I already know my long saga, the outcome, how to prepare for surgery, and what the outcome of my surgery was. But leaving it up and updating it was so that it would help others who came here looking for answers.

Whoever is attempting to hurt me by methodically deleting hundreds of my posts has hurt everyone that could have ever benefited from them.

Edited: Actually, I see that the vast majority of all my posts have been deleted. This must have been a very time consuming project for someone.
I just had a look at the back-to-front deletion pattern as well. Two issues are important here IMO. The first issue is that readers cannot now learn from SU's incredibly difficult CPAP saga. That, in turn, stands to indirectly block readers' efforts to improve their own lives and therapy from whatever information might have been key to them.

The second issue is that if Johnny decides to restore those hundreds if not thousands of deleted posts, he will have to pay expensive staff time to sort through many spam deletions in order to restore SU's posts. Essentially "intellectual property" valuable to this message board was vandalized. That amounts to expensive property damage. My hunch is that the sneaky coward who deleted those posts is following this thread. I hope they are. Because the intellectual property damage is owned in Texas, and here are the Texas laws and penalties for that kind of criminal property damage:

http://www.criminalpropertydamage.com/texas/

I wonder if this vandal considered that what they did potentially has serious consequences. I hope this person somehow pays restitution at the very least if it ends up costing Johnny a significant outlay in restoration charges. SU don't let the village idiot bother you in the least.
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Re: Most of my posts were deleted

Post by archangle » Sun Jun 05, 2011 1:54 pm

I'm afraid we're going to have to not let people delete posts as freely as before. Bulletin board always seem to go downhill as the trolls grow in number and boldness.

It may be necessary to give a more limited number of people "spam deletion" authority.

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Re: Most of my posts were deleted

Post by Madalot » Sun Jun 05, 2011 1:59 pm

-SWS wrote:
SleepingUgly wrote:It was mildly annoying/amusing when my first post on my thread, "Can I have my own thread?" disappeared. But those of you have been around awhile might remember when I posted my "I don't have a bona fide diagnosis" thread before my OSA diagnosis and uploaded a table of stats from all my previous sleep studies, as several of you commented on it, including Dr. Park. Then I posted a thread labeled "I have a bona fide diagnosis -- epilogue to my story". They are both gone:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=47828&p=479742&hili ... is#p433718

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=52012&p=480562&hili ... ue#p479667

And you may recall my methodical documentation of my surgery and recovery? Gone too:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=53157&st=0&sk=t&sd= ... fe#p491926

I came here with decades of misdiagnosis and NO sleep disordered breathing diagnosis when I arrived at cpaptalk, ON an empirical trial of CPAP. I already know my long saga, the outcome, how to prepare for surgery, and what the outcome of my surgery was. But leaving it up and updating it was so that it would help others who came here looking for answers.

Whoever is attempting to hurt me by methodically deleting hundreds of my posts has hurt everyone that could have ever benefited from them.

Edited: Actually, I see that the vast majority of all my posts have been deleted. This must have been a very time consuming project for someone.
I just had a look at the back-to-front deletion pattern as well. Two issues are important here IMO. The first issue is that readers cannot now learn from SU's incredibly difficult CPAP saga. That, in turn, stands to indirectly block readers' efforts to improve their own lives and therapy from whatever information might have been key to them.
I was disturbed when it seemed that some of SU's posts had been deleted, but now that the magnitude of the deletions has become clear, I have to agree with -SWS on this -- it's criminal.

SU -- I am so sorry about this.

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Re: Most of my posts were deleted

Post by PST » Sun Jun 05, 2011 2:01 pm

In addition, we all lose if this kind of event causes Johnny to feel that he can't keep the spam button. It is a public service for the first person who sees a spam message to delete it before someone replies. It's not the biggest deal in the world, but we all will have a little worse forum experience if we lose the advantage of most all the members being able to contribute to spam monitoring.

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Re: Most of my posts were deleted

Post by AndyCelt » Sun Jun 05, 2011 2:04 pm

I hope there is a mechanism for banning the person who deleted SU's posts because in my mind at least, this offense deserves banning.
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Re: Most of my posts were deleted

Post by beckah » Sun Jun 05, 2011 2:07 pm

Sorry someone deleted your posts, SU. What a rotten thing to do.

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Re: Most of my posts were deleted

Post by Slinky » Sun Jun 05, 2011 2:37 pm

What the hay???? It is inconceivable to me WHY anyone would want to go to all that hassle to "get" you, of all people, SU!!!!
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Re: Most of my posts were deleted

Post by BleepingBeauty » Sun Jun 05, 2011 2:46 pm

Ugh. I hate reading about this. So sorry, SU.

I'm an optimist at heart, so I'm crossing my fingers that it's some weird little glitch in the system that's responsible for your posts disappearing, and not some twisted jackass who seriously needs to get a life.

If it is the latter,

Image *heavy sigh*

This forum is a goldmine of information, and every single post has potential value to someone else. I hope Johnny, et al., are able to restore things quickly and easily (and/or determine how this happened so it can be prevented from ever happening again).
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Re: Most of my posts were deleted

Post by Bodhi » Sun Jun 05, 2011 3:03 pm

This is awful, SU. This was evidently a massive undertaking--it's like stalking. Really sick.
I hope it was a weird glitch of some sort; but if someone did this intentionally, I hope they are banned and their name published.

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Re: Most of my posts were deleted

Post by jnk » Sun Jun 05, 2011 3:54 pm

It has been a long time since something "online" has disturbed me this much. Very unsettling. I hope it gets fixed soon.

As has been said, it confuses me too that SU would be chosen by anyone to be subjected to that kind of treatment. Very strange.

If it meant my having to sift through a little spam now and then, to keep something like this happening to someone like SU, I would prefer that, even if it meant that only people like me who had been here less than 5 years lost their spam button.

Or could the spam button be set up so that each person could only delete one post a day, or something?

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Re: Most of my posts were deleted

Post by Sireneh » Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:25 pm

Yeah, that's crummy. I'm so sorry. This must make you feel terrible.

I think the delete button should be reserved for a few key people... board moderators, if you will. Perhaps based on a combination of length of time here and number of posts, something like that. This is the internet, after all, and people are crazy.

Or, even if not board moderators, I'm just thinking of another board I frequent... when someone's been there a certain length of time and has posted a certain number of times, a little icon appears beside their avatar. On that site they don't get any special privileges, but we could potentially adopt something like that here (with the privilege of being able to remove spam.)

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Re: Most of my posts were deleted

Post by Guest » Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:29 pm

jnk wrote:Or could the spam button be set up so that each person could only delete one post a day, or something?
That's a really good idea. Maybe the number should be a few more than 1, but the basic idea is good.

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Re: Most of my posts were deleted

Post by SleepingUgly » Sun Jun 05, 2011 5:47 pm

Seems like someone who knew what he was doing, so he must have also recognized how much work he would be giving Admin to undo the damage he did.

Thanks for the support, Everyone!
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