WEIGHT LOSS

JudyAnn · Post by **JudyAnn** » Mon Nov 01, 2004 4:13 pm

Hey Sleep Guy,

Welcome to the "boat" that we are all in. I am new also just this past July. Anything you have to offer or question is appreciated on this board. Everyone is so supportive and encouraging and the help they give is awesome.

I know you will start to feel better on CPAP once you start. It may take a while or you may notice it right away. I think that it started little by little for me and now that I am not so "can't keep my eyes open at work" person anymore, I have noticed a big improvement.

Before when I would try to lose weight, it just would not come off (plus having SA, I need two knee replacements) and I could not exercise either. A lot of strikes against me. I am encouraged now though that I can start the process and that being on CPAP (I have an autopap) will help me.

So welcome aboard.

Judy

SleepyGuy · Post by **SleepyGuy** » Mon Nov 01, 2004 6:28 pm

Thanks. I found out that titration test didn't go so well. My sleep interruptions went from 80 to 40. I also had a tough time getting to sleep with it. Next I have to talk to my doctor to find out what he wants to do. I have a suspicion it will be both CPAP and surgery.

Yuck.

djv1255 · Post by **djv1255** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 8:56 am

In Sept., I started WWatchers online. I lost 50 lbs then stopped losing weight.

I started Optifast 800 today. Anybody had experience with Optifast?

Mathurine · Post by **Mathurine** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:55 am

only thing i know for sure about this is once your on the cpap your no longer being prevented from loosing weight by your body.

Undaignosed apena means the body is in shock from not sleeping at night (and thinking it must be at war or something from all that adrenaline and sleep deprivation). when a body's in shock it will put on weight rather then loose it.

they used to think sleep apnea was caused by obesity, but now they are thinking it might be the otherway around.

aparently each body has it's own magic number, once the weight goes over that number, the amount of fatty tissue in the throat area becomes more then the muscles etc can handle, then sleep apnea develops, then the shock, then more weight, worse apnea etc etc etc...

I have read some theories that if one were to loose enough weight to get under said magic number, one may not have the apnea as a daily problem...not sure about that though...

chrisp · Post by **chrisp** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 11:25 am

Interesting piece on sleep apnea. Could you have had it since birth ?

http://www.apa.org/monitor/feb03/sleep.html more

http://www.sk.lung.ca/content.cfm?edit_realword=xtra30

Cheers,

Chris

Mathurine · Post by **Mathurine** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 2:06 pm

WOW - thanks for that, it was great. I have never heard that before. In my studies I have come across info that brain damag may result from OSA, but no one ever expected it to cause it...

RubyKat · Post by **RubyKat** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 2:45 pm

Yes, very helpful links. A penny drops with me: I didn't stutter as a child, but I did fall out a two-storey window, on my head, with concussion, when I was 18 months old.

There was no obvious brain damage, but they know a lot more nowadays. It could very well be that some subtle damage was sitting there lying in wait for when I was older. My sleep specialist said I'd probably had sleep apnea all my adult life.

When I was a child, I was a skinny waif, due to another health problem which was fixed when I was about 10. And after that I became chubby, probably for a combination of reasons. Probably at the point when "chubby" became "fat", Boom! Sleep apnea. And then the vicious cycle where I couldn't lose weight at all, which has been referenced elsewhere in this forum.

Mathurine · Post by **Mathurine** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:42 am

this article is directly about this. i like this guy's stuff becuase he is a doc and has OSA...

http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa ... age68.html

cpaplady · Post by **cpaplady** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:59 am

Most sleep apnea patients are just to tired from lack of sleep to feel up to exercising.
After CPAP therapy (usually during the first six weeks) is established you will start feeling better. Feeling better usually leads to increased activity etc.........
Good luck!
Just for the record a good portion of the patients that we set-up that are compliant with therapy usually drop around 20 lbs during the first 8 months.
There are sometimes medical reasons for the lack of weight loss but don't be discouraged.

littlebaddow · Post by **littlebaddow** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 12:10 pm

cpaplady wrote:Just for the record a good portion of the patients that we set-up that are compliant with therapy usually drop around 20 lbs during the first 8 months.

Thanks cpaplady, that's encouraging news to us overweight newcomers to the world of cpap treatment. Just one question, where can I donate my 20lbs now so I don't have to wait 8 months

SleepyGuy · Post by **SleepyGuy** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 12:59 pm

The technician for my sleep study has sleep apnea and uses a CPAP machine. She had lost 100 lbs. My guess is that the CPAP removes a significant obstacle to losing weight, but it is not magic. People without sleep apnea have a lot of trouble losing weight too.

chrisp · Post by **chrisp** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 3:31 pm

hello everyone,
I guess this article is saying GET OFF YOUR BUTT AND MOVE

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/200 ... clude=Juno

Cheers,

Chris

G00fy217 · Post by **G00fy217** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 11:17 am

I am a newbie as well.... but I am hoping for weight loss!! I am about 60 pounds overweight and about 75 pounds over my desired weight! Yikes, that does make me sound fat... I don't really feel to fat until I go to try on new clothes. I have gone from a size 12 a year ago to size 16 now and some of these damn clothes don't even fit me. I am finding myself buy stretchy cloths.... something I always hated.... but here I go!

Anyways, I hope you are all right! I am looking forward to MORE ENERGY so that I can EXCERSIZE!! I probably spelled that wrong... oh, well.. you get what I am trying to say! I thought I was putting on the weight because of having an underactive Thyroid, which also controls your metabolism by the way.... But now reading what you all wrote... this is beginning to make more sense to me. I hope and pray that once I start getting better sleep, I will have the energy to excersize and loose the weight!

Good luck to all of you! I know I need it!!

G00fy217

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 11:39 am

Exercise.....Physical Activity

ExerSIZE....What you get when you don't do any physical activity.

SleepyGuy · Post by **SleepyGuy** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 12:30 pm

No lectures on diet and exercise please. Until two years ago I was in the gym four times per week and I had been on diets of as little as 1500 calories. (I'm 6'2". My goal weight would be about 210 lbs. I'm 60 lbs over that.) Not only did I not lose weight, I gained a considerable amount.

I was also dead tired. I still am as I work on my nasal problems so I can use my CPAP machine all night.

I gave up the gym only because I realized it did not help and generally made me feel worse. I still watch what I eat.

I hope that when I get my CPAP problems straightened out, my energy returns to allow me to exercise and lose weight. As I said above, I don't believe the CPAP is magic, but that sleep apnea can cause weight gain. No one should expect to automatically lose weight due to treating sleep apnea, but I certainly hope that it will finally make it possible to lose weight if I eat right and exercise. Those things did not work before.

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