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Post by roster » Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:07 am

OK skeptics, for one day, manmade gobble warming is a fact!

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Post by KatieW » Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:44 am

Gobble warming!

Happy Thanksgiving to you too, Rooster. I am grateful for everything I learn from you, and this wonderful forum.

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Post by fischdream » Thu Nov 26, 2009 8:20 am

Thanks for the laugh! Happy Thanksgiving all!

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Post by GaryG » Thu Nov 26, 2009 8:43 am

rooster wrote:OK skeptics, for one day, manmade gobble warming is a fact!

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Happy Thanksgiving!
Stuffed Rooster. Yum yum. My favorite. And a Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family today.

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Post by Wulfman » Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:11 am

Happy Thanksgiving, all.

Here's some "Gobble Warming" facts.


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Top 5 surprising turkey facts
Since Lincoln made Thanksgiving a holiday, turkeys have changed a lot
By Robert Roy Britt
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updated 2:49 p.m. MT, Wed., Nov . 25, 2009

The average American eats 17.6 pounds of turkey per year, more than double the figure for 1970, according to the National Turkey Federation. To feed the growing appetite, some 273 million turkeys will be raised in the United States in 2009, and a good number of them will be consumed on Thanksgiving, after which many Americans will loll about, overstuffed, sleepy and in many cases intoxicated.

This is not what the Pilgrims had in mind.

The first Thanksgiving was a moment for the Pilgrims to thank God for allowing them to kill enough game and grow sufficient crops to get through the winter, says Anne Blue Wills, assistant professor of religion at Davidson College. Those Pilgrims would have spent much of their day in church contemplating the mercies of God's covenantal love, Wills argues.

Not until Sarah Hale, editor of Godey's Lady's Book and Magazine promoted for 50 years the idea of a regular Thanksgiving holiday did President Abraham Lincoln make it one in 1863. In the years since, the turkeys we eat have changed dramatically, and so has scientific knowledge of them. Among the things you might not know:

1. Turkeys can fly
Wild turkeys feed on the ground, which might explain the myth of their flightlessness. They can in fact soar for short bursts at up to 55 mph. But their tendency to stay on or near the ground contributed to successful hunting that brought the wild population of turkeys down to about 30,000 in the 1930s. There are now 7 million of them.

2. Dark meat is rare because ...
Meat is muscle. And muscle is fed by blood. In the blood is myoglobin, which binds with oxygen and stores it in muscles for when it's needed. Myoglobin also makes meat dark. Muscles that are used most, like those in drumsticks (legs), have more myoglobin. Domestic turkeys are too fat to fly, so they don't use their breast muscles much, which is why breast meat is white. The breast of a wild turkey is entirely different, darker (and far tastier for those who are game).

3. Turkey eggs wouldn't sell
Chickens are champion egg-producers. Turkeys, not so good. Turkey eggs are bigger, so their nests tie up coop space. And farmers have learned that they make more raising turkeys for meat rather than eggs. Oh, and some turkeys are protective of their eggs, making the gathering more challenging.

4. It's not the turkey that makes you sleepy
Turkey contains a natural chemical called tryptophan, which we need to build proteins for our bodies. Indeed, tryptophan is also related to the production of serotonin, which helps us sleep. But all meat has about the same amount of tryptophan. Cheddar cheese has a lot more. What really makes you sleepier after a Thanksgiving meal compared to other meals is eating too many carbohydrates, from potatoes to pies. Alcohol can contribute, too.

5. Dinosaurs had wishbones, too
The wishbone, called a furcula, is the fusion of two collarbones at the sternum. It's where a bird’s flying muscles hook up. It's elastic and great for flapping. Turns out T. Rex and the Velociraptor had wishbones, too. While they didn't fly, this fairly recent discovery is one of the many bits of evidence that shows birds evolved from dinosaurs.

Sarah Hale probably never thought about any of this back in the mid-1800s. She just wanted the nation to celebrate a pious, patriotic holiday, said Wills, the Davidson College researcher. Hale used columns and stories in her magazine to portray Thanksgiving as a triumph of domesticity and rural simplicity over urban sophistication. She urged President Lincoln to create a single day on which all states would mark the holiday as a national event.

"The message is that the simple, pure, honest rural life, away from the temptations of the city, puts you in touch with true values," Wills said. "If we can just travel back to the old home place once a year we'll be protected from temptations and evil."

While some of that spirit might remain in the holiday, much indeed has changed about American culture in general and in how people view and partake in the holiday.

"For instance," Wills said, "I don't think football games and making the day after Thanksgiving the biggest shopping day of the year ever crossed her mind."
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Re: OK skeptics, for one day, ....

Post by -SWS » Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:30 am

"Man Made Gobble Warming" is probably an apropos play on words for today's national meal, Rooster.

Our meal-consuming nation will probably contribute more to the greenhouse effect after today's en masse gluttonous meal than just about any other collective digestive undertaking.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING ALL!



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Post by Turkey » Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:09 am

Yummmmm!

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Post by JohnBFisher » Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:26 am

-SWS wrote:... Our meal-consuming nation will probably contribute more to the greenhouse effect after today's en masse gluttonous meal than just about any other collective digestive undertaking. ...
Ever the optomist, I see the potential in this dire caution. Just think of this as an untapped alternate energy source! We can celebrate and supply power at the same time. The only downside is the process. Just how would we "tap into" this alternate power source?

Perhaps as I'm lulled into a post Thanksgiving meal food coma, I will give it some more thought ..

Happy Thanksgiving!

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Post by LinkC » Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:36 am

More Turkey trivia:

Which country is the largest consumer of turkey?













Israel !!! (US is second...) Turkeys require fewer innoculations/growth hormones than any other poultry. Thus, they are the easiest to raise and keep kosher.

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Post by plr66 » Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:41 am

Wulfman wrote:Happy Thanksgiving, all.

Here's some "Gobble Warming" facts.
Top 5 surprising turkey facts
1. Turkeys can fly
Wild turkeys feed on the ground, which might explain the myth of their flightlessness. They can in fact soar for short bursts at up to 55 mph.
I live in the woods in the mountains, and have become now become accustomed (but still stop to watch) when a "herd" of 30-50 wild turkeys wander across my driveway and property. However, a couple of months ago I nearly freaked out when leaving my house for work early in the morning and for the first time seeing a turkey zoom through the air across the road 10 feet in front of my car and then landing on a high tree branch beside my house!! Thought I was surely driving while dreaming. Looked like a flying cow, actually! Never knew they could do that.
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Post by rosiefrosie » Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:01 am

Happy Thanksgiving & thanks rooster. Would a turkey be a relative to roosters?

Wild turkeys are able to fly. The turkeys that are raised commercially are raised to weigh more and have lost the ability to fly because of the weight.

Have a safe & happy holiday.

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Post by DreamOn » Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:16 am

plr66 wrote:I live in the woods in the mountains, and have become now become accustomed (but still stop to watch) when a "herd" of 30-50 wild turkeys wander across my driveway and property. However, a couple of months ago I nearly freaked out when leaving my house for work early in the morning and for the first time seeing a turkey zoom through the air across the road 10 feet in front of my car and then landing on a high tree branch beside my house!! Thought I was surely driving while dreaming. Looked like a flying cow, actually! Never knew they could do that.
Wishing everyone a blessed and restful holiday.
My husband and I often went hiking in an area where there were wild turkeys. They are very intimidating birds! They used to chase us all the time.

Happy Thanksgiving to you, Rooster! You're such an important contributor to this forum. And best wishes to everyone else too, as we give thanks for our many blessings today. I am thankful for all the support here -- and grateful to be alive!

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Post by LinkC » Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:25 pm

-SWS wrote:
Our meal-consuming nation will probably contribute more to the greenhouse effect after today's en masse gluttonous meal than just about any other collective digestive undertaking.
That's a lot of "hot air"... and aromatic, as well!

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Post by roster » Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:43 pm

plr66 wrote:
I live in the woods in the mountains, and have become now become accustomed (but still stop to watch) when a "herd" of 30-50 wild turkeys wander across my driveway and property. However, a couple of months ago I nearly freaked out when leaving my house for work early in the morning and for the first time seeing a turkey zoom through the air across the road 10 feet in front of my car and then landing on a high tree branch beside my house!! Thought I was surely driving while dreaming. Looked like a flying cow, actually! Never knew they could do that.
Wishing everyone a blessed and restful holiday.
I was hiking in the mountains early this fall while the leaves were still on the trees and it was a very quite morning. I had just walked past a big oak tree in which, unbeknowst to me, two hens were perched. Suddenly they took flight and I heard a tremendous racket at my back. For a few seconds, I was totally discombobulated, gaining my composure only after I glimpsed the rear end of the two birds disappearing into the woods.
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