I have a couple questions for you guys that track data

[Kiralynx]

LOL 80% of my pt's are 65-100+ I hope I didn't make anyone mad I wasn't talking down on them there are people here I am sure that are in that age group that wanted to learn about there data. Those people I am willing to bet are comfortable with using computers though. So a card download isn't complicated to them.

Hah... my husband is 64, and uses computers all day long at work. And a card download isn't complicated... if a person is shown how! (And that's either by someone else, in a video, or in a properly written instruction book.)

[Kiralynx]

And yet you're doing so much better than this guy...

Yes, well! I'm typing on a full ergonomic keyboard, not a phone!

[papaart]

Well, after reading this whole thread, I can see I have a LOT to learn. I have been one of those who has just been floating along, putting my mask on every night and thinking that's all I need to do! Just because my wife is not complaining about my snoring (although she has had to close my mouth at times, but that seems to have stopped being necessary) and I don't wake up every 5 to 15 minutes, looking at the clock, doesn't mean I've got this thing under control!
Here's looking forward to good things to come! Have a great Day all!

[DreamStalker]

It's hard to take you seriously when you use English so poorly.

Why does it take the use of proper english to be taken seriously ... sometimes I use proper english in jest and at other times I use it poorly in all seriousness. Your real name isn't Lou Dobbs is it?

[DreamStalker]

our goal is to be the size of lincare. praxair for example within a couple years. last year we grew 60% and spread local offices to a few mid east states. we're on our way

cha ching!! cha ching!!

Joining this forum is like a bunny rabbit jumping into a cage full of hungry pit bulls huh?

LOL 80% of my pt's are 65-100+ I hope I didn't make anyone mad I wasn't talking down on them there are people here I am sure that are in that age group that wanted to learn about there data. Those people I am willing to bet are comfortable with using computers though. So a card download isn't complicated to them.

Again ... the problem always comes back to "EDUCATION". Just because they are seniors doesn't mean they are old dogs who can't be taught new tricks. Why not make the attempt to educate them about monitoring their therapy or at least educate them about the importance of monitoring their therapy? What if those seniors had diabetes? Would you just think oh well, they are seniors so there is no hope in even trying to teach them how to use a glucometer. Laughing it off because they are 65-100+ is inexcusable!

EDUCATION dude!

[nobody]

And yet you're doing so much better than this guy...

Yes, well! I'm typing on a full ergonomic keyboard, not a phone!

It's not just his one phone post in which he's having such trouble. He's made a couple of spam posts since and can't even be bothered to use capital letters at the beginning of sentences. Yeah, that's gonna make me want to use that DME...not! If the people working for it aren't smart enough, or just can't be bothered, to use correct English then how good will their service actually be? Probably not much better than the one I have here, where they think these machines work by magic

[nobody]

It's hard to take you seriously when you use English so poorly.

Why does it take the use of proper english to be taken seriously ... sometimes I use proper english in jest and at other times I use it poorly in all seriousness. Your real name isn't Lou Dobbs is it?

Because he's putting himself out there as someone who has special knowledge. If he can't chose the correct word (their, they're or there, etc) or use capital letters at the beginning of sentences (this is pretty simple stuff!), then it's hard to take him seriously on his supposed knowledge of more complicated things.

[jnk]

It's hard to take you seriously when you use English so poorly.

Why does it take the use of proper english to be taken seriously ... sometimes I use proper english in jest and at other times I use it poorly in all seriousness. Your real name isn't Lou Dobbs is it?

Because he's putting himself out there as someone who has special knowledge. If he can't chose the correct word (their, they're or there, etc) or use capital letters at the beginning of sentences (this is pretty simple stuff!), then it's hard to take him seriously on his supposed knowledge of more complicated things.

Yeah, but sometimes it's hard to chose/choose the correct word.

Some of the best posts I've read on this forum have been in broken English. Ain't none of us speaks this language rightly nohow anyways.

It must be a slow Saturday, though, if we're down to grammar flames.

(I don't mean to pick on nobody. )

[carbonman]

(I don't mean to pick on nobody. )

There is trickery going on here.

Odysseus used this same trickery when he was imprisoned by
Polyphemus, the cyclops.
He told him his name was Nobody, then when he shoved a stake
in his one eye, Polyphemus cried out, "Nobody is hurting me!"

When his cyclops buddies heard him yelling, they thought he
was crazy and didn't come to help.

Nobody is concerned w/grammar or typos,
why should we be concerned??

[Mike@TibroMedical]

I am not trying to sell anyone on this site anything, I am here to discuss PAP's and by discussing them with other people I learn. the insane thing is that having this group of people that are knowledge hungry is amazing to me, you guys are 180* from my pt's I get calls with people yelling at me to send a tech to there house and change there filter cause they don't want to, I don't think you guys know the kind of people we have to deal with. for me to find out that there are people out there that would be happy doing on there own is crazy to me.

Example: friday 4:00 I get a call pt's M series is flashing and beeping. he tells me that theres a arrow and a box on the screen in the corner that he's never seen(his SC was pushed in to far I am sure you guys know that) I asked him to simply pull the card out 1/4 of an inch and it would stop flashing and beeping. REALLY simple fix. He refused screamed at me about how he needs someone out to his house before he goes to bed tonight or he could die then his family would be my new boss... That is what I deal with all day so to meet you group of people is awesome and exciting. but I am not going to come on here and blow sunshine up your ass and try and sound all Professional to you whats the point? you want to judge the company i work for because I don't talk how you think I should? good that means I'll never have to put up with you as a pt cause something tells me your not pleasant to work with.

[momadams]

I'm with Nobody on this one.
It's been fun following this thread, but the grammar, spelling, apostrophe-sprinkling and now "sunshine blowing" have really pushed me beyond my limits of tolerance.
Bye.
Shari

[DreamStalker]

What about Australian english? ... lot them blokes runnin bout this place.

How about we just allow Shakespeare english as the forum standard? ... that way "nobody" will be taken seriously.

To be, or not to be a nobody: that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The fatigue and death of outrageous apnea,
Or to take arms against a sea of DMEs,
And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep;
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
That air is deprived, 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be breathe'd. To die, to sleep;
To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the hose;
For in that sleep of aflex what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off this mortal breath,
Must give us pause: there's the cpap
That makes health of so long life;
For who would bear the whips and scorns of RTs,
The oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely,
The pangs of despised pressure changes, the law's they say,
The insolence of white coats and the spurns
That patient merit of the unworthy requests,
When he himself might his quietus make
With a bare machine? what data would be bear,
To grunt and sweat under a weary therapy,
But that the dread of something after death,
The undiscover'd forum from whose advice
No reader fails, puzzles the will
And makes us rather bear those ills we have
Than fly to others that we know not of?
Thus conscience does make cowards of them all;
And thus the native hue of resolution
Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought,
And enterprises of great pith and moment
With this regard their currents are turned awry,
And lose the name of action. - Soft you now!
The fair members! and Johnny, in thy orisons
Be all my posts remember'd.

[DoriC]

Awesome! I am starting to think that due to my patient base being all old people that this is why I've never run into pt's that are eager to learn. We have a much younger generation on this site, all of which are comfortable with using a computer. LOL my grandparents hate their computer, they only use it when they HAVE to.

Excuse Me Young Man!! You just lost points with me! My husband and I are both active and involved seniors and although we are not computer geeks by any means, we do use our computer daily for all sorts of business and pleasure, and were very "eager" to learn how to adapt to cpap therapy. In fact, I found this forum before we even received the DX or equipment. I now try to pay back here in whatever small way I can. We live in a 55+ adult community, pop.1500,avg age is 65-85, and almost everyone I know has a computer, some have laptops as well so they're not fighting over who gets to use it. BTW, our teenage granddaughters(see photo) would never refer to us or anyone else as "old people who don't want to learn". They know differently and have better manners than that. Apology accepted!

[carbonman]

so to meet you group of people is awesome and exciting.

but I'll never have to put up with you as a pt cause something tells me your not pleasant to work with.

....ah, BUT, the great dis-qualifier of all that precedes it.....

Did you think is was a new, untapped market, ripe for the pick'n???

We may just be Yahoo's that fell off the turnip truck at night,
BUT, it wasn't last night.

[DoriC]

Thank you Carbonman and Dreamstalker for lowering my blood pressure. Laughter is good medicine!!