a suggestion to eliminate rainout

[Mrs. Tatis]

Has anyone tried the Fisher & Paykel HC-604 to eliminate rainout?

[MeToo]

That isn't a suggestion, that is a question.

[rested gal]

I haven't tried the F&P machine with its own heated hose.

https://www.cpap.com/cpap-machine/fishe ... -cpap.html

I've never been interested in an F&P machine at all, since they don't give any info other than hours of use. I've read that they are developing software, but how useful it would be remains to be seen.

Even if I were not concerned about lack of informative data, I wouldn't be interested in a machine that has a proprietary heated hose... a hose that can be used with only that one manufacturer's machine.

I don't doubt that the F&P machine's heated hose controls rainout.

However, if a person is going to go a heated hose route, much better (imho) is to buy a separate "Aussie heated hose" (I have that...works great) which can be used with any brand/type of machine:
LINKS to discussions about the Aussie heated hose - to prevent rainout
viewtopic.php?t=5305

[kopoloff]

I suspect Mrs. Tatis would have more credibility if we could see a profile

K

[dieselgal]

Never tried that machine, but with my machines the thing that works is a hose cover and/or lowering the humidifier setting.

[Mrs. Tatis]

I suspect Mrs. Tatis would have more credibility if we could see a profile

K

Yeah, I'm sure if I put a cartoon picture up for an avatar, and filled in a couple lines that people would take me SO much more seriously. The problem is that the majority of you people think you know everything, and look forward to lynching anyone with a suggestion. You don't want help, you want to criticize the medical field. The same field that saved all your sorry asses. After reading many posts on this site, I will no longer be visiting here. After reading the advice you give new users, the fact you hand out clinical manuals leads me to believe that you are a group of people who is going to hurt somone very soon. You scrutinize logic, and are fascinated with your disullisioned ideas of what works. You think if you buy a couple hundred dollars worth of machinery that you can screen you own OSA. You have to be the dumbest group of people, the most self serving, ignorant, obnoxious people I know. I am to baffled by your sheer ignorance to even read anymore posts. I just hope your advice does not kill someone.

[rested gal]

I suspect Mrs. Tatis would have more credibility if we could see a profile

K

Yeah, I'm sure if I put a cartoon picture up for an avatar, and filled in a couple lines that people would take me SO much more seriously. The problem is that the majority of you people think you know everything, and look forward to lynching anyone with a suggestion. You don't want help, you want to criticize the medical field. The same field that saved all your sorry asses. After reading many posts on this site, I will no longer be visiting here. After reading the advice you give new users, the fact you hand out clinical manuals leads me to believe that you are a group of people who is going to hurt somone very soon. You scrutinize logic, and are fascinated with your disullisioned ideas of what works. You think if you buy a couple hundred dollars worth of machinery that you can screen you own OSA. You have to be the dumbest group of people, the most self serving, ignorant, obnoxious people I know. I am to baffled by your sheer ignorance to even read anymore posts. I just hope your advice does not kill someone.

I'm sorry you feel that way, Mrs. Tatis/Mimi. And I'm sorry about the reception some have given you. I've been interested in reading your posts. I thought some of what you posted was very helpful ... like your advice to be sure to call and cancel if a person isn't going to keep a sleep study appointment.

Your post right here in this thread mentioning the F&P machine with heated hose was helpful, too. I wasn't knocking that you brought up that machine. Just giving my opinion about why I'd personally rather use a standalone heated hose. Your post and mine were giving people several options to think about.

Some of your other posts have been ugly, though...

viewtopic/t38745/Link-C-is-troubl.html


I hope everything goes well for you.

[reefdreamer]

Geez...Mrs Tatis...who pissed in your post toasties? I am new to cpap...just was diagnosed in sept 2008. I am a RN and have been a RN for 11years and I can tell you that this group of people one this site are no way intending to hurt anyone. Everyone has there own opinions and suggestions. This is a great group of people that helps each other out with a disorder that is not the easiest thing to treat. You can't just slap a mask on and do what the doctor says and be cured. My doctor actually is so clueless he even forgot he ordered the cpap for me. Luckily I work closely with a knowledgeable person at the dme and she calls the doctor and he does whatever I want. Don't be so quick to point fingers. Rested gal has helped alot of people out. You obviously have issues Mrs Tatis.

[kopoloff]

Sorry everybody. I think i just upset somebody!

The other side of me thinks that that somebody wanted to be upset but not identified. There was a lot of anger in those posts.

Or is this just a metaphor for the whole DME, sleep tech, insurance company industry problem i keep hearing about in your country?

Or is it just me?

K

[Mike081376]

Mrs Tatis ( I say Mrs loosely),

Since ive been on this board, people like Rested Gal, Carbonman, Wulfman and others have helped me make it through this rough time and help me with a lot of confusion. Your rank language and negativity in your previous posts is not welcome here by me, and honestly my life will not change if you decide to leave...what will happen is, I wont have to read your filthy wording in your posts...your post only produce negativity and do NOTHING to help me and others...I can't speak for others but it sounds like its time for you to sit down and have a come to Jesus with yourself!! WE are all here to learn more about our condition, ask questions and possibly answer some. I think if you read most people's post, they are not ANYTHING like yours...grow up and save your nasty language for another board!

Have a great day!!!!

[hose head]

I didn't read through the whole post. But yes I used F-P 604 and I still got rainout. When I stopped using it (mid-Dec.) and started with ResMed AutoSet II I found that an auto really works well for me. Some nights I need more pressure, and some nights less. I have dealt with rainout by making my own hosewrap and making a PVC hose lift. The big thing that has really helped me(besides this group) has been being able to see my data everyday. I use the data to tweak the headgear, and reinforce my other health practices.

[Gerryk]

I haven't had much problem with rain out, but the little bit I did has been almost eliminated. I would say that maybe a couple times a week is all but I get a drop or two of moisture in my mask. I eliminated rain out by using a tubing wrap from ResMed. It even has a zipper on it that makes it easy to change hoses, which is great if you clean yours often. I have two hoses and clean each one once a week, so having a zipper on it makes it a breeze. I paid 14 bucks for it which is about what the other ones cost too.

Good luck.

[NeurosurgeryNP]

I suspect Mrs. Tatis would have more credibility if we could see a profile

K

Yeah, I'm sure if I put a cartoon picture up for an avatar, and filled in a couple lines that people would take me SO much more seriously. The problem is that the majority of you people think you know everything, and look forward to lynching anyone with a suggestion. You don't want help, you want to criticize the medical field. The same field that saved all your sorry asses. After reading many posts on this site, I will no longer be visiting here. After reading the advice you give new users, the fact you hand out clinical manuals leads me to believe that you are a group of people who is going to hurt somone very soon. You scrutinize logic, and are fascinated with your disullisioned ideas of what works. You think if you buy a couple hundred dollars worth of machinery that you can screen you own OSA. You have to be the dumbest group of people, the most self serving, ignorant, obnoxious people I know. I am to baffled by your sheer ignorance to even read anymore posts. I just hope your advice does not kill someone.

Why such the nastiness? I resent being called ignorant and dumb. As a member of the medical profession, who also has sleep apnea, I have gained invaluable information from this site. I think you may be the ignorant one.

As for the heated humidifier and cpap system - I use the Aussie heated hose and I have NEVER incurred any rainout with my HH at the highest setting using the heated hose. The Aussie hose runs about $100 - would never change to the that CPAP with HH and hose that only can be replaced by the OEM.

[Debjax]

As a member of the medical profession, who also has sleep apnea, I have gained invaluable information from this site. I think you may be the ignorant one.

By the way, just as a side note, Neurosurgeons and their Nurse Practitioners are one of my favorite medical groups. My son had a TBI 3 years ago after Jeep met tree and he lost. 2.5 weeks before he woke up, was told to expect persistent vegetative state IF he woke up. Crainectomy and some VERY high ICP's. Went home from the hospital 3 weeks and 3 days after the accident, wearing helmet of course since still had massive swelling and that hole in his head. His baby is the granddaughter I went to Michigan to see last month.

99.9% recovery, still has a few rancho 10 characteristics, but our neuorosurgeion and his NP ROCKED! Kudos to your profession.