Variable Breathing always 60%+ - Concerned

[-SWS]

With all due respect -SWS I have not rejected ideas or people in this thread have I ?

Well, Browser. It's not hard to pick through this thread and spot explicit words about not only who you don't like, but also which traits you explicitly don't like in others whom you supposedly respect and seek assistance.

I think a repetitive a counter-productive pattern may occur for you both here and in past posts: 1) ask for help, 2) reject the mannerisms of those from whom you seek help (words like "annoy" and "don't like" constitute rejection), 3) become frustrated when the exchange inevitably becomes short-circuited, and finally 4) you feel as if you are driven away.

Have you rejected ideas? You seemed to have rejected the very simple solution of simply forging ahead as I have already suggested twice. As long as this thread concentrates on your perceived flaws of others, the discussion will likely not concentrate on your much more important medical and health issues.


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Can I suggest that we simply quit talking about who said what---and in a way we didn't like-----and continue focusing on Browser's health?



Browser, I'd hope to see you next posts in this thread to be about apnea, variable breathing, PAP therapy. Set a good example for us.

[jules]

Can I suggest that we simply quit talking about who said what---and in a way we didn't like-----and continue focusing on Browser's health?

As I have said before, I have no technical knowledge of Variable Breathing, however I feel that Mike's mental as well as physical health is a major concern.

Again, I wish him well in finding the appropriate help he so desperately needs.

[MrSandman]

LAST NIGHT:

[-SWS]

The above charts don't look dissimilar from previous charts. I'm thinking difficulty with leaks may even contribute to post-arousal H or A----as a possible response to sensory stimuli. Browser, how inclined do you think you might be to suffer poor sleep at night from sensory stimuli in general?

Also, this symptom is perplexing:

The diagnostic portion of my PSG I stayed on my right side which from my own experience is my worst position and especially causes me to fill with air. I do better on my left side except for rib pains and knots I feel under the skin which my Dr. doesn't seem too concerned about. These are under the skin on or between ribs usually and are palpable knots about 2 inches long and kind of feel firm. I noticed one just below my left rib cage yesterday.They kind of move around when I try to find them. Cigar shaped to oval shaped about 2 inches long and feel like limps under the skin. I can't see them in a mirror. I also feel like there is one in my left breast muscle due to feeling the same kind of ache there.

I have no clue if the above is indirectly related to your myterious SDB variability.

Autoimune lumps? I think fibro can entail knots---as well as disrupted sleep via alpha-wave intrusions. Alternately could those lumps be a side effect to a prescription?

[MrSandman]

I got back from fishing for Humuhumunukunukuapua’a at Lake Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamogg with my old buddy Bob the Antitransubstantiationalist and I logged on to my favorite site. Imagine my Incomprehensibilities at the Disproportionableness over such a Floccinaucinihilipilification by so many persons of Honorificabilitudinitatibus. It made my Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanokoniosis flair up and I had to go to bed and lie down for a nap. But I used my CPAP so it all came out right in the end.

Good google search batman...

http://www.knightspage.com/11_4/11_4_Ka ... hwords.htm

[MrSandman]

before mth712 had this avatar



he had one similar to the one below - with this post - see viewtopic.php?p=310536#p310536

I don't have a static IP and I know enough to post ANON if I want to Jules and see my Avatar ...

guess that one of his "3" outbursts huh?

3 threads I made outbursts in...Better... Really you need to get over yourself Jules.

[MrSandman]

With all due respect -SWS I have not rejected ideas or people in this thread have I ?

Well, Browser. It's not hard to pick through this thread and spot explicit words about not only who you don't like, but also which traits you explicitly don't like in others whom you supposedly respect and seek assistance.

I think a repetitive a counter-productive pattern may occur for you both here and in past posts: 1) ask for help, 2) reject the mannerisms of those from whom you seek help (words like "annoy" and "don't like" constitute rejection), 3) become frustrated when the exchange inevitably becomes short-circuited, and finally 4) you feel as if you are driven away.

Have you rejected ideas? You seemed to have rejected the very simple solution of simply forging ahead as I have already suggested twice. As long as this thread concentrates on your perceived flaws of others, the discussion will likely not concentrate on your much more important medical and health issues.


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Can I suggest that we simply quit talking about who said what---and in a way we didn't like-----and continue focusing on Browser's health?


Browser, I'd hope to see you next posts in this thread to be about apnea, variable breathing, PAP therapy. Set a good example for us.

-SWS - I am trying to get past this but I have to answer. I reread this entire thread and I was very nice and gracious throughout all the mudslinging and I did not do as you say above
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I think a repetitive a counter-productive pattern may occur for you both here and in past posts: 1) ask for help, 2) reject the mannerisms of those from whom you seek help (words like "annoy" and "don't like" constitute rejection), 3) become frustrated when the exchange inevitably becomes short-circuited, and finally 4) you feel as if you are driven away.

While rereading this entire post I did find it humorous that Snoredog has been editing out any useful suggestions he gave me among other stuff. So once again I must say,don't throw stones from glass houses...

[-SWS]

I may not have administrative privileges around here---thank God! But I sure can implement the mother of all long words to force people around here to behave:

s u p e r c a l i f r a g i l i s t i c e x p i a l i d o c i o u s


There... I'm glad I did it!!!

[echo]

Browser,

I think you still have some people on your side, more so than you realize. If you take -SWS's advice and 'let it go' , and get back on track on the discussion, then I think everyone will be happier, you included....

I know that you feel you have been wronged, and maybe you're right and maybe you're wrong.. but in the end no one is gaining from this discussion. I know that it may seem important to divide out exactly who said what and who did what, but sometimes it's also possilbe to take the higher road and Let It Go. Please. Even if you are the wronged party. Even if you are right. Silence will speak more than any argument.

(And believe me, I am one of the most stubborn jackasses in the world, I HAVE to indicate exactly where I was right and everyone was wrong. But sometimes, that just gets in the way of the real discussion. AND I've learned that it's usually only me who cares about placing the blame, other people don't really care, they just want to get to the bottom of the issue/problem/discussion. I'm not saying that's what you're doing, but this thread does sound familiar in that sense. Just my 2 cents).

I suggest you even create a new thread and summarize the facts and charts from this thread as the starting post. Then think of it as starting a-fresh. But of course that is just a suggestion.

[Snoredog]

I may not have administrative privileges around here---thank God! But I sure can implement the mother of all long words to force people around here to behave:

s u p e r c a l i f r a g i l i s t i c e x p i a l i d o c i o u s


There... I'm glad I did it!!!

Boy I bet you feel like you just hiked your leg on a fire hydrant don't ya?

[echo]

I may not have administrative privileges around here---thank God! But I sure can implement the mother of all long words to force people around here to behave:

s u p e r c a l i f r a g i l i s t i c e x p i a l i d o c i o u s


There... I'm glad I did it!!!

Yeah, am having trouble picturing you with a nice sunday hat and a summer umbrella. ow, that hurts my brain. Even in my feverish state I just cannot bring up such a picture in my mind's eye.

[-SWS]

Snoredog, aye! It felt like a Palabration Celebration with that sweet fire station Dalmation!

Echo, you can't picture me being practically perfect in every way?

[MrSandman]

The above charts don't look dissimilar from previous charts. I'm thinking difficulty with leaks may even contribute to post-arousal H or A----as a possible response to sensory stimuli. Browser, how inclined do you think you might be to suffer poor sleep at night from sensory stimuli in general?

Also, this symptom is perplexing:

The diagnostic portion of my PSG I stayed on my right side which from my own experience is my worst position and especially causes me to fill with air. I do better on my left side except for rib pains and knots I feel under the skin which my Dr. doesn't seem too concerned about. These are under the skin on or between ribs usually and are palpable knots about 2 inches long and kind of feel firm. I noticed one just below my left rib cage yesterday.They kind of move around when I try to find them. Cigar shaped to oval shaped about 2 inches long and feel like limps under the skin. I can't see them in a mirror. I also feel like there is one in my left breast muscle due to feeling the same kind of ache there.

I have no clue if the above is indirectly related to your myterious SDB variability.

Autoimune lumps? I think fibro can entail knots---as well as disrupted sleep via alpha-wave intrusions. Alternately could those lumps be a side effect to a prescription?

-SWS - I thank you for continuing to try and help me out. You above all others here have gained my admiration for you truly are a forgiving soul. I am humbled by your presence.I don't know what the lumps are and I don't know of sensory stimuli disrupting my sleep. If it does I don't notice. It has always been my experience in the past that something has had to get much worse before I ever get any Dr. to take a serious look at a complaint like tender lumps I mention. My sister has been given 5 years to live due to stage 4 breast cancer and 3 years have passed. My mom has had bladder cancer and lymphoma and is in remission. Most of my family and extended family have died of cancer. So I do worry that the lumps could be a lymphoma but am afraid I will not know till something bad occurs. I pray I do not leave my 5 kids without a father anytime soon.

Echo - I thank you for the kind words and am also grateful for your presence. One doesn't like to feel totally alone. Sometimes I am just not as verbose as say SAG and do not present myself properly.

BTW -SWS - For the past three days I have gone cold turkey from a tobacco habit (Skoal) so that may show up in my reports or not... My head is sure feeling it...

[ozij]

Snoredog, aye! It felt like a Palabration Celebration with that sweet fire station Dalmation!

Echo, you can't picture me being practically perfect in every way?

She was having a problem picturing as a diamond in the rough, and you want her picturing you practically perfect in every way???? I mean, do you want her hallucinating???


O.

[echo]

Boy I bet you feel like you just hiked your leg on a fire hydrant don't ya?

Echo, you can't picture me being practically perfect in every way?

Again, You could NEVER be Julie Andrews perfect, my love.