MyAir is really useless isn't it

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MyAir is really useless isn't it

Post by tisket » Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:04 am

I really miss the ability from my PR System 1 to look at the machine in the morning and see the percent large leaks. Oscar is great but it would be nice to just be able to see large leak percentage without having to do the whole SD card thing and sitting at the computer every time. (And the rumors about Airsense 11 having no SD card are very disturbing.) So I decided to set up MyAir yesterday. It gave me a score of 81%, Excellent Results.

Oscar reported 41% large leak time. No wonder I feel like crap.

Obviously MyAir is useless. Its mask fit stat is a simple 50 l/min which doesn't tell me how much of the night I was basically getting no therapy.

I am wondering if the DreamStation shows % large leaks on the machine interface or in their app (assuming they have something like MyAir). I feel like this is a real downside to the Airsense 10, without Oscar there is no way to tell what is going on.
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Re: MyAir is really useless isn't it

Post by chunkyfrog » Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:08 am

I thought MyAir was only compatible with Resmed machines . . .
SMH.
But I do agree--useless.

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Re: MyAir is really useless isn't it

Post by tisket » Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:13 am

chunkyfrog wrote:
Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:08 am
I thought MyAir was only compatible with Resmed machines . . .
SMH.
Yes, I am using AirSense 10 now, and I really miss using the PR System 1, which would show me large leak % on the machine interface itself. AirSense 10 display, and MyAir, do not give this information.
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Re: MyAir is really useless isn't it

Post by Pugsy » Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:18 am

The DreamStation will give you a backwards large leak number on the LCD screen.
Backwards meaning it shows how much time was spent with no large leak so you can do the math and figure how much time in large leak.

If it shows 100% for mask fit....that means 100% of the time NOT in large leak.
If it shows 90% for mask fit that means 90 % of the time NOT in large leak which then in turn means 10% of the time in large leak.
You have to do the math....but it is easy math to do.

You can go to the apneaboard and request the clinical manual for the DreamStation and see its explanation as to what is shown on the LCD screen report.

https://www.apneaboard.com/adjust-cpap- ... tup-manual

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Re: MyAir is really useless isn't it

Post by Dog Slobber » Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:25 am

tisket wrote:
Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:04 am
Obviously MyAir is useless. Its mask fit stat is a simple 50 l/min which doesn't tell me how much of the night I was basically getting no therapy.
Although MyAir is useless, you don't seem to understand what ResMed's leak value represented in LPM or Respironics Leak, measured as a percentage is telling you.

And neither is telling you what percentage of time you weren't getting proper therapy.
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Re: MyAir is really useless isn't it

Post by tisket » Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:40 am

Dog Slobber wrote:
Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:25 am
tisket wrote:
Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:04 am
Obviously MyAir is useless. Its mask fit stat is a simple 50 l/min which doesn't tell me how much of the night I was basically getting no therapy.
Although MyAir is useless, you don't seem to understand what ResMed's leak value represented in LPM or Respironics Leak, measured as a percentage is telling you.

And neither is telling you what percentage of time you weren't getting proper therapy.
Thanks for all the great information.
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Re: MyAir is really useless isn't it

Post by tisket » Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:42 am

Pugsy wrote:
Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:18 am
The DreamStation will give you a backwards large leak number on the LCD screen.
Backwards meaning it shows how much time was spent with no large leak so you can do the math and figure how much time in large leak.

If it shows 100% for mask fit....that means 100% of the time NOT in large leak.
If it shows 90% for mask fit that means 90 % of the time NOT in large leak which then in turn means 10% of the time in large leak.
You have to do the math....but it is easy math to do.

You can go to the apneaboard and request the clinical manual for the DreamStation and see its explanation as to what is shown on the LCD screen report.

https://www.apneaboard.com/adjust-cpap- ... tup-manual
Thanks Pugsy, that is good to know. At this point I am wishing I had gone with a DreamStation instead of an AirSense 10.
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Re: MyAir is really useless isn't it

Post by loggerhead12 » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:01 am

I don't get it. If the leak line is non-zero you break out Oscar and see what's going on. How is that useless?

It's like the check engine light on your car. You don't hook up the computer and read the codes every day, you only do it when there is a problem.

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Re: MyAir is really useless isn't it

Post by djont57 » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:22 am

I'm probably a little lax but as long as Myair is less than 30 l/min & I feel good, I don't worry about leaks.

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Re: MyAir is really useless isn't it

Post by ChicagoGranny » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:35 am

tisket wrote:
Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:13 am

Yes, I am using AirSense 10 now, and I really miss using the PR System 1, which would show me large leak % on the machine interface itself. AirSense 10 display, and MyAir, do not give this information.
You must not know how to access the AirSense 10 reports on the display. It shows 95% leak level. I make a quick check each morning upon arising. Mine is almost always zero. If it is a high number, you might need OSCAR to dig into what went wrong.

If you don't know how to access the clinical menu and reports, ask here.

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Re: MyAir is really useless isn't it

Post by chunkyfrog » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:42 am

tisket wrote:
Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:13 am
chunkyfrog wrote:
Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:08 am
I thought MyAir was only compatible with Resmed machines . . .
SMH.
Yes, I am using AirSense 10 now, and I really miss using the PR System 1, which would show me large leak % on the machine interface itself. AirSense 10 display, and MyAir, do not give this information.
Which model Airsense 10 are you using?
On my Autoset for her, I set the report to plus, and all kinds of
data are visible on the screen.

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Re: MyAir is really useless isn't it

Post by tisket » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:44 am

loggerhead12 wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:01 am
I don't get it. If the leak line is non-zero you break out Oscar and see what's going on. How is that useless?
I haven't had a zero leak line in a year, more or less.

I used to have them. Not anymore.
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Re: MyAir is really useless isn't it

Post by tisket » Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:48 am

I am using the Airsense 10 Autoset. I know how to go into the clinical menu and use it to tweak pressures. I also turned on the additional report details. In the morning I scroll down the report to see what it shows. For leak all it shows is a number of l/m.

If there is a way to see what percent of the night has large leaks, I'd love to know it.
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Re: MyAir is really useless isn't it

Post by Janknitz » Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:18 pm

I will tell you that if you saw large leaks on the PRS1 screen they were HUGE leaks because the PRS1 only reported 7 or 30 day averages. That information is mostly useless on a day to day basis. And only giant, persistent leaks even register on that machine. You might have other leaks that will never trigger the Large Leak on the PRS1 screen.

But you can get into the clinical menu on your ResMed and see what your leak rate was over the course of just one night (or a week, month, three months, or six months). You don't need My Air or even Oscar or Sleepyhead for that.

If you do use Oscar or Sleepyhead, you can get detailed, minute by minute reports from either machine.
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Re: MyAir is really useless isn't it

Post by Greenpepper » Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:13 pm

That chart blows my mind. I had no idea that was even possible. My leak has improved with a recent mask change, but before that I was putting along at around at around 8L/m thinking that was fine and there was no need to do anything about it.