Inhaling much faster with VAUTO. Why?

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Re: Inhaling much faster with VAUTO. Why?

Post by slowriter » Wed Jul 29, 2020 12:49 pm

What does a two-minute close up of the flow rate graph look like?
Like this.

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Re: Inhaling much faster with VAUTO. Why?

Post by Lightweaver » Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:44 am

palerider seems to be right, it must be just a difference in reporting b/w two machines. I compared flow rate graphs and they look similar

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Re: Inhaling much faster with VAUTO. Why?

Post by palerider » Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:05 am

Lightweaver wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:44 am
palerider seems to be right, it must be just a difference in reporting b/w two machines. I compared flow rate graphs and they look similar
Sometimes I get lucky ;)

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Re: Inhaling much faster with VAUTO. Why?

Post by Miss Emerita » Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:57 am

This is interesting to me. I switched from a ResMed Airsense 10 Autoset to a ResMed VAuto Aircurve and got very different numbers for inhalation and exhalation times, with the VAuto showing shorter inhalations and longer exhalations. I have cardioballistic artifacts in my flow rate, meaning that my heart beat telegraphs to my airway and produces small oscillations around the zero line when I'm between breaths. (See attached.)

I always assumed that the machines differed in the way they identified the beginnings and ends of inhalations and exhalations by using algorithms that treat those little oscillations differently. But Lightweaver, your flow rate doesn't show cardioballistic oscillations at all. So the difference between the algorithms for the two machines isn't what I thought it was.

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Re: Inhaling much faster with VAUTO. Why?

Post by Pugsy » Tue Aug 11, 2020 12:27 pm

Miss Emerita wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:57 am
So the difference between the algorithms for the two machines isn't what I thought it was.
You are just special. :D
I also use the VAuto and I don't have the cardiac echo thing either.

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Re: Inhaling much faster with VAUTO. Why?

Post by Miss Emerita » Tue Aug 11, 2020 12:30 pm

Pugsy wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 12:27 pm
You are just special. :D
Why, I believe you've put your finger right on it!
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Re: Inhaling much faster with VAUTO. Why?

Post by Lightweaver » Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:28 am

Miss Emerita wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:57 am
This is interesting to me. I switched from a ResMed Airsense 10 Autoset to a ResMed VAuto Aircurve and got very different numbers for inhalation and exhalation times, with the VAuto showing shorter inhalations and longer exhalations. I have cardioballistic artifacts in my flow rate, meaning that my heart beat telegraphs to my airway and produces small oscillations around the zero line when I'm between breaths. (See attached.)

I always assumed that the machines differed in the way they identified the beginnings and ends of inhalations and exhalations by using algorithms that treat those little oscillations differently. But Lightweaver, your flow rate doesn't show cardioballistic oscillations at all. So the difference between the algorithms for the two machines isn't what I thought it was.


Cardioballistic artifacts on Vauto.png
The graph above isn't mine:) I do have oscillations as you describe, so this explains the difference!
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Re: Inhaling much faster with VAUTO. Why?

Post by Miss Emerita » Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:47 am

Lightweaver wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:28 am
Miss Emerita wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:57 am
This is interesting to me. I switched from a ResMed Airsense 10 Autoset to a ResMed VAuto Aircurve and got very different numbers for inhalation and exhalation times, with the VAuto showing shorter inhalations and longer exhalations. I have cardioballistic artifacts in my flow rate, meaning that my heart beat telegraphs to my airway and produces small oscillations around the zero line when I'm between breaths. (See attached.)

I always assumed that the machines differed in the way they identified the beginnings and ends of inhalations and exhalations by using algorithms that treat those little oscillations differently. But Lightweaver, your flow rate doesn't show cardioballistic oscillations at all. So the difference between the algorithms for the two machines isn't what I thought it was.


Cardioballistic artifacts on Vauto.png


The graph above isn't mine:) I do have oscillations as you describe, so this explains the difference!
Aha! So maybe after all its a cardioballistic thing!
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