Not sure what I am doing wrong, lots of rainoutq

ready2sleep · Post by **ready2sleep** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 4:35 pm

I tried the vinegar on my mask and it worked good, the seal is good now. Thanks for all your help. However, I have been having rainout problems lately. In the beginning I had no problem with rainout. Then I stopped using it completely for a few weeks, had the flu, which just continued leaving me sick. Then when I was better, I starting using cpap again i was on 2 humidifying, I got lots of rainout,dropped to 1 still wet, now I have it on zero, I woke up last night around 4am and took the mask off, it was all wet? Any help or suggestions guys?

tooly125 · Post by **tooly125** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 4:46 pm

First thing to make sure is that your machine is lower than your head.
I keep mine about a foot off the floor so rainout has a chance to run back down your hose into the humidifier rather than your face.

second thing to try is a hose cover a very inexpensive fix and as an added bonus the hose feels softer next to you.

Third thing to try is the Aussie heated hose.
I have not personally tried one but a lot of members love them

yardbird · Post by **yardbird** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 5:13 pm

ready2sleep,

What part of the country are you in?
Here near Niagara Falls, as the weather gets colder and the furnace comes on, the air in the house gets drier and the room is colder at night. Warm moist air in the tube ... cold tube.... condensation.

Previous advice is right on. Machine lower than your head. Some people use hose hangars. Depends on your setup, but I don't use one with my Swift. I keep as much of the hose down as possible and as has been said any condensation tends to flow back towards the humidifier. I also found that insulating the hose makes a big difference. For me that means laying the hose in the space at teh top of my matress between the matress and headboard. For some folks teh best thing they've done is gotten a heated hose cover. I haven't fond a need for one myself yet, but if I had persistant rainout I would definitely invest in one.

capt · Post by **capt** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 6:50 pm

You are not doing anything wrong. Tooly125 and Yardbird offer good advice. I had the same problem and I bought the heated hose to solve my problem. I have ordered three hoses for my brothers and father as gifts and it is the best solution for those that sleep in a cooler room. The heated hose comes with a soft fleecy cover and costs about $120 including shipping to your door. They are a small Australian Company that has provided me with truly great service with all my orders. Their address is at; http://www.sleepzone.com.au/index.html

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rested gal · Post by **rested gal** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:06 pm

LINKS to discussions about the Aussie heated hose - to prevent rainout
viewtopic.php?t=5305

There's at least one online store in the U.S. that now carries the Sleepzone heated hose: cpapusa.com

I bought mine (and later a backup one that I haven't had to turn to yet) from the Australian site. Fast service and very nice people to deal with.

Offerocker · Post by **Offerocker** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:20 pm

OK, so here's my link: http://www.ComfortSleeve.com

The ComfortSleeve is a fleece 'sleeve' that is made to cover any hose, including the "Aussie" (keeps it clean). I have been told that the ComfortSleeve has helped reduce 'rainout'. It can be removed and laundered. It also helps the hose not get caught up on things, as it covers the ridges, etc. Of course I could go on.

Most important advice has already been provided: keep the humidifier lower than your head, and the hose downhill between mask and humidifier seems to work best. After all, it never rains 'up'! - Not that I've seen, anyway, .

I keep my covered hose under the covers with me, and have no problems - it's always handy if I want to turn from one side to another.

Good luck!

ready2sleep · Post by **ready2sleep** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 2:08 pm

Thanks for all the tips. I keep the machine on the floor next to the bed. I live in the northeast where it is getting colder. I put the hose underneath my covers but I guess its not keeping it warm enough. I like the cool air coming from the machine. A question, will the Aussie make the air coming our much warmer?

Offerocker · Post by **Offerocker** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:50 am

ready2sleep wrote: <snip> I like the cool air coming from the machine. A question, will the Aussie make the air coming our much warmer?

The pictures of the heated hose show a thermostat control, so I'd "assume" that you may control the amount of heat it produces to heat the air that passes through the hose.

laurie2025 · Post by **laurie2025** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:02 am

I have the heated hose and if it has a temperature control I don't know where it is, I haven't seen one.
The ideas that I've received are the heated hose and the comfort sleeve, both of which I have. I also moved the cpap unit to about 6-10" off the floor. I do have the hose on a swivel plant holder on the wall, but only about 1' is coming downward to the mask.
Laurie

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Offerocker · Post by **Offerocker** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:59 am

Laurie,

This is what I was looking at when I mentioned the temperature control:

http://www.sleepzone.com.au/

I don't know if it is 'standard' equipment or not...?
I got the link from one of RG's posts.

laurie2025 · Post by **laurie2025** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:08 pm

I have that hose here at home. I'll have to check it over more thoroughly, I don't see a temperature control in the picture or on my hose.
What I see in the pic is the hose connected to the cpap and then at the other end connected to the mask. Please tell me what I am missing?
Laurie

Snoredog · Post by **Snoredog** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:13 pm

[quote="laurie2025"]I have that hose here at home. I'll have to check it over more thoroughly, I don't see a temperature control in the picture or on my hose.
What I see in the pic is the hose connected to the cpap and then at the other end connected to the mask. Please tell me what I am missing?
Laurie

rested gal · Post by **rested gal** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 3:38 pm

Offerocker wrote:The pictures of the heated hose show a thermostat control, so I'd "assume" that you may control the amount of heat it produces to heat the air that passes through the hose.

No, there's no heat adjustment control for the user on the Aussie heated hose -- never has been. Perhaps you were mistaking the big square adapter in the picture (after you click "Sleepzone heated cpap tube" in the lefthand menu) with having some kind of adjustment dial on it? That big square thing is the power plug. There's no adjustment with it.

As Snoredog said, the only way to regulate the amount of heat would be this way: "Temp can be controlled using a different voltage power supply, you can get one from Radio Shack that will allow you to adjust the voltage from 3VDC to up to 24VDC, I however wouldn't go over 12VDC."

laurie2025 · Post by **laurie2025** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:53 pm

Whew. Glad I wasn't missing something. My hose temp is pleasantly warm, not cool, not hot. Which is good because I don't think I could change out the power supply! I am going to try running it with the humidifier off, and if that doesn't work, I'm going to have to try putting the hose under the covers with me, which I really didn't want to do, but I'd rather do that than get wet.

Thank you.
Laurie

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Offerocker · Post by **Offerocker** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 6:09 am

rested gal wrote:
Offerocker wrote:The pictures of the heated hose show a thermostat control, so I'd "assume" that you may control the amount of heat it produces to heat the air that passes through the hose.
No, there's no heat adjustment control for the user on the Aussie heated hose -- never has been. Perhaps you were mistaking the big square adapter in the picture (after you click "Sleepzone heated cpap tube" in the lefthand menu) with having some kind of adjustment dial on it? That big square thing is the power plug. There's no adjustment with it.

As Snoredog said, the only way to regulate the amount of heat would be this way: "Temp can be controlled using a different voltage power supply, you can get one from Radio Shack that will allow you to adjust the voltage from 3VDC to up to 24VDC, I however wouldn't go over 12VDC."

...Could have fooled me...and I guess it certainly DID!!

...And yet another example of what happens when one (me) makes "assumptions", based solely on "appearances"!!

HOWEVER, I am VERY surprised that it does NOT have a temperature control! Doesn't the 'purpose' go hand-in-hand with temp control?

Thank you RestedGal, Snoredog, and Laurie, for correcting my big OOPS.

I guess I'll go back to the practice of finding and reading the "fine print" .

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