Good Morning Sleep Solution

[JaneAsimov]

Hola! I just ordered this product to give it a go. I just got my CPAP about a month ago, and got a mask that mostly works, along with a heated tube, one and a half weeks ago. I woke up 4 days last week with terrible migraines, which made me mad because that's when I started using it consistently. What I realized is that I've been under a lot of stress and I was clenching terribly at night. A dentist made me a mouth guard to wear last year for this problem but it doesn't seem to help much because I still clench a lot.

So, after some thought and research, I came across this device:

https://goodmorningsnoresolution.com/bl ... p-machines

http://helptostopsnoring.com/good-morni ... outhpiece/

It seems that it treats sleep apnea, and you're unable to clench while wearing it because your tongue is between your front teeth.

I know everyone says to stick it out with the CPAP for a month or two before giving up, and I'm trying, but I still feel so tired and my headaches are still killing me. Has anyone had any experience with this product?

[Arlene1963]

Hi Jane,

I was considering this device when I was first diagnosed in 2015 and decided to do some research on it, starting here on the forum. I searched the archives and there are several threads that discuss it, and based on what I read here I decided not to spend the money on this product.

I also came across a video review done by someone who mentioned that excess saliva is one of the biggest issues, and quite honestly, that is such a gross idea that I decided to pass on the device.

[Julie]

Even curing snoring does not address OSA - does not address airway blockage by e.g. the tongue or an anatomically narrow passage. And other conditions that accompany and/or affect plain obstructive apnea, like UARS, restless legs syndrome, central apnea, etc. etc. are not addressed at all, let alone diagnosed unless a proper sleep study is done. Snoring or not snoring is not the point.

And I HATE that site because it lists all the problems people have been known to have when beginning Cpap (to convince you to buy their product and dump Cpap), but does NOT also explain that 99% of those problems can be dealt with - as they are on the forum every day.

If you want to fool yourself that some gadget will cure your apnea, you're free to do so, but remember that it's what you're choosing...to fool yourself, to expose yourself tp the many and quite serious problems that go with untreated apnea.. not just untreated snoring!

[Marillion]

I tried it myself initially when I was first trying to cure my snoring. It didn't work at all for me but I did generate a TON of saliva over the course of 2 weeks in using it. I was tested for sleep apnea and my results came back as severe. I have used other oral devices and none of them actually prevented my snoring. My Resmed Autoset 10 did.

My wife tried the Good Morning Snore Solution and it stopped her snoring. She seems to sleep much more deeply and comfortably with it, moving less over the course of the night. The drooling stopped after a couple of weeks for her. She has been officially tested for Sleep Apnea and does not have it.

They do send it with a (can't remember now...) 30 day money back guarantee? But if you have already been diagnosed with Sleep Apnea, my advice to you would be to get used to your machine instead. I don't believe this device will effectively prevent Sleep Apnea. It is more of a snoring solution which works for some people, but clearly not all.

[Goofproof]

He probably needed those tires you bought him, next guy buys the tune up.

Lead Treatment instead of Gold! Around here we go for the Gold. Jim

Snoring isn't Sleep Apnea, it one of the minor symptoms.

[JaneAsimov]

Hi Jane,

I was considering this device when I was first diagnosed in 2015 and decided to do some research on it, starting here on the forum. I searched the archives and there are several threads that discuss it, and based on what I read here I decided not to spend the money on this product.

I also came across a video review done by someone who mentioned that excess saliva is one of the biggest issues, and quite honestly, that is such a gross idea that I decided to pass on the device.

Hi Arlene,
I wore it last night and had a little bit of excess saliva, but really not much. All in all, I kind of like it. It's way more comfortable then my full CPAP mask. thanks for the suggestion!

[JaneAsimov]

Even curing snoring does not address OSA - does not address airway blockage by e.g. the tongue or an anatomically narrow passage. And other conditions that accompany and/or affect plain obstructive apnea, like UARS, restless legs syndrome, central apnea, etc. etc. are not addressed at all, let alone diagnosed unless a proper sleep study is done. Snoring or not snoring is not the point.

And I HATE that site because it lists all the problems people have been known to have when beginning Cpap (to convince you to buy their product and dump Cpap), but does NOT also explain that 99% of those problems can be dealt with - as they are on the forum every day.

If you want to fool yourself that some gadget will cure your apnea, you're free to do so, but remember that it's what you're choosing...to fool yourself, to expose yourself tp the many and quite serious problems that go with untreated apnea.. not just untreated snoring!

I am not fooling myself. It is listed as a Class I device in Canada and Europe for the treatment of mild to moderate sleep apnea.

[JaneAsimov]

I tried it myself initially when I was first trying to cure my snoring. It didn't work at all for me but I did generate a TON of saliva over the course of 2 weeks in using it. I was tested for sleep apnea and my results came back as severe. I have used other oral devices and none of them actually prevented my snoring. My Resmed Autoset 10 did.

My wife tried the Good Morning Snore Solution and it stopped her snoring. She seems to sleep much more deeply and comfortably with it, moving less over the course of the night. The drooling stopped after a couple of weeks for her. She has been officially tested for Sleep Apnea and does not have it.

They do send it with a (can't remember now...) 30 day money back guarantee? But if you have already been diagnosed with Sleep Apnea, my advice to you would be to get used to your machine instead. I don't believe this device will effectively prevent Sleep Apnea. It is more of a snoring solution which works for some people, but clearly not all.

Hi Marillion,
I tried it out last night, and it was much more enjoyable to wear then my CPAP. I only woke up once where it had slipped off, but that's because I had loosened it when I went to the bathroom. PLUS, I didn't clench while I was wearing it (win!) and I breathed through my nose the whole night (I'm a mouth breather, double win!). I'm worried that I'm going to loose my CPAP machine though if I continue only using the GMSS because I have to use the CPAP at least 4 hours a night to keep it : ( We'll see, I'm going to call my rep today. thanks for your feedback!

[JaneAsimov]

He probably needed those tires you bought him, next guy buys the tune up.

Lead Treatment instead of Gold! Around here we go for the Gold. Jim

Snoring isn't Sleep Apnea, it one of the minor symptoms.

The GMSS is listed as a Class I treatment for mild-moderate sleep apnea in Canada and Europe, so I wouldn't necessarily deem it lead. It prevented me from clenching my teeth last night, and I woke up feeling just as rested as I do from my CPAP (which isn't saying much really). My frenulum hurts today but I'm hoping that will pass.

[Marillion]

I tried it myself initially when I was first trying to cure my snoring. It didn't work at all for me but I did generate a TON of saliva over the course of 2 weeks in using it. I was tested for sleep apnea and my results came back as severe. I have used other oral devices and none of them actually prevented my snoring. My Resmed Autoset 10 did.

My wife tried the Good Morning Snore Solution and it stopped her snoring. She seems to sleep much more deeply and comfortably with it, moving less over the course of the night. The drooling stopped after a couple of weeks for her. She has been officially tested for Sleep Apnea and does not have it.

They do send it with a (can't remember now...) 30 day money back guarantee? But if you have already been diagnosed with Sleep Apnea, my advice to you would be to get used to your machine instead. I don't believe this device will effectively prevent Sleep Apnea. It is more of a snoring solution which works for some people, but clearly not all.

Hi Marillion,
I tried it out last night, and it was much more enjoyable to wear then my CPAP. I only woke up once where it had slipped off, but that's because I had loosened it when I went to the bathroom. PLUS, I didn't clench while I was wearing it (win!) and I breathed through my nose the whole night (I'm a mouth breather, double win!). I'm worried that I'm going to loose my CPAP machine though if I continue only using the GMSS because I have to use the CPAP at least 4 hours a night to keep it : ( We'll see, I'm going to call my rep today. thanks for your feedback!

If I was you, I would use an app on your phone SnoreLab. It's free and can tell you at least if you are still snoring, like I was with the GMSS. Though snoring doesn't in itself tell the whole story since you may be experiencing apneas outside of snoring events, ie. due to flow restrictions. Also, keep in mind the device is said to last for about 3 months, though some people have made them last longer. Depending on the anatomy of your tongue (more than 3/4 of our tongue is of course deep inside our mouth and how it is shaped, the GMSS may or may not be preventing some or most of your apneas from occurring. I look at this device as more of a stop snoring device rather than an apnea solution, even if it is rated to help the occurrences of sleep apnea in some individuals.

We've found with time, it loosens up and holds the tongue less effectively, thus lessening it's effectiveness. Buying new ones every few months could prove to be just as costly as a machine, much more costly in my case since medical insurance is fully paying for my machine. I would have to pay out of pocket for the GMSS.

[JaneAsimov]

First night report on the Good Morning Sleep Solution:

"Man, this things feels weird! I can feel my front teeth pushing into my tongue, I hope I don't bite my tongue off in my sleep. The directions say to relax my tongue. How in the hell am I supposed to do that while it's suctioned into this plastic orffice? Hmm...I know, I can pretend that I'm sticking my tongue out at the world."

"Ha ha Universe! Screw you for making me feel sick and in pain all the time! Thy tongue thy flickth in thou general direction. Pfff!!!"

Surprisingly this worked, as humor is the greatest relaxation tool known to man, and I slowly drifted off to sleep.

Some time later, around 4 am, I went to the bathroom, and I took the GMSS off. "Wow, that's a lot of spit hanging out in my lower lip, whatever." (Wipes spit onto t-shirt) "My tongue is sore, I'm going to try putting this on looser. I can't believe I've slept this long and I didn't even eat the tip of my tongue off yet!"

Fast forward to 6 am, I must have put the GMSS back on too loose, because now it's just sitting behind my lips and my tongue is happily floating around in my mouth.

"What the what?! Back on you go."

***ALARM*** 7 am, "I did it! I slept a whole night with it on, and I'm still able to speak! Ouch, my frenulum hurts, and my front lower teeth feel like I had braces applied to them at some point in the night. That's ok, I didn't clench either!!! All is now right in the world!!""

OR so I would like it to be, but I am still really tired. The GMSS was WAYYYYYYY more comfortable to sleep with then my CPAP though, so I'm going to try it for the next week (as long as my insurance company doesn't repossess my CPAP machine for not using it for a while).

For those who keep commenting that it's meant for snoring, yes I am aware of that! however, it is frequently used in Canada and Europe as a go to device to treat mild to moderate sleep apnea. In fact, it's listed as a Class I sleep apnea in these countries.

Questions? Thoughts? Comments?

[chunkyfrog]

Official government listings are meaningless as long as government officials TAKE BRIBES
And Jane, if your "advice" encourages anyone to stop using their cpap, and DIES,
HOW WILL YOU LIVE WITH YOUR CONSCIENCE?

[nanwilson]

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I am not fooling myself. It is listed as a Class I device in Canada and Europe for the treatment of mild to moderate sleep apnea.

Will you please point us out to the data where they state its a class one device in Canada and Europe..... and anyone affiliated with this company does NOT count as accurate data, that would be advertising hype, not reality

[chunkyfrog]

Jane is no doubt well-compensated for helping sell thisQUACK GADGET
EDIT-- when I posted this, I was not aware of Jane's past troubles, as her post looked exactly like a lot of the spam we get.

[Goofproof]

De-Nile is deep, get a copy of your XPAP script, so you can buy a new one out of pocket, if you ever reach the shore, and are still breathing. Amazing what people will do to not do what's best for them, good luck with your choices. Jim

That device needs a data port.