Cool Moist Air Need Info

[Perchas]

Two months enjoying the fresh air that gives me the water tank previously frozen.

If it were not for this home remedy, could not withstand the hot or warm air that accentuate the cpap.

[Goofproof]

All these years I've been doing it wrong, who would have thought there could be a easier way than lowering the room air temp, by using a window a/c unit, mine even comes with a remote control, so I don't have to get out of bed to change modes and temps. I am however developing a callous on my finger pushing the button. In the winter I turn off the heat to the bedroom and keep the door closed, I even run the a/c in the winter. It good to find new ways to do simple things. Jim

I no longer use the HH, I have found if the air is cooled I don't need it, maybe never did.

[Grace~~~]

I am definitely making a batch of distilled water ice cubes right now!

I set my autoset up with the air intake just a foot or so from a window unit A/C in one of the places I sleep.
I keep that room really cold.

I also have always been good with fantasy mind games so I set a fan to blow hard on me mainly in my face and so the air going up my nose is almost imperceptible as I have "such strong ocean breezes out here on the deck of my yacht blowing in my face".
(Ok ... it's just a fan in the bedroom and a good imagination)

Tonight though we are going in to icy waters!
.. and is that a touch of spruce and mint in the air ... mmmmm smells so fresh and cool! ...

My life is so GREAT!

I bet when I open my eyes I may see whales or seals at play?
...and some beautiful boy serving me fresh squeezed juice?

[Sir NoddinOff]

I am definitely making a batch of distilled water ice cubes right now!

I set my autoset up with the air intake just a foot or so from a window unit A/C in one of the places I sleep.
I keep that room really cold.

I also have always been good with fantasy mind games so I set a fan to blow hard on me mainly in my face and so the air going up my nose is almost imperceptible as I have "such strong ocean breezes out here on the deck of my yacht blowing in my face".
(Ok ... it's just a fan in the bedroom and a good imagination)

Tonight though we are going in to icy waters!
.. and is that a touch of spruce and mint in the air ... mmmmm smells so fresh and cool! ...

My life is so GREAT!

I bet when I open my eyes I may see whales or seals at play?
...and some beautiful boy serving me fresh squeezed juice?

To grace, perchas and others. For years I was at the other end of the spectrum and thought I needed hot tropical temps and balmy seashore breezes from my CPAP. After a few years I realized it was just mind games I was playing on myself (nothing wrong with that). Now I simply use normal humidifier settings... 4 on my PR 960 ASV. By your use of exaggerated metaphors, I predict you'll eventually get over the 'mountain air' phase and putting the tank in the freezer... if not, that's cool too. Do what makes you happy.

[Grace~~~]

For years I was at the other end of the spectrum and thought I needed hot tropical temps and balmy seashore breezes from my CPAP. After a few years I realized it was just mind games I was just playing on myself (nothing wrong with that) and now I simply use normal humidifier settings... 4 on my PR ASV. By your use of exaggerated metaphors, I predict you'll get over the 'mountain air' phase eventually... if not, that's cool too.[/quote]

I sure hope so, Sir

I have better uses for that skill-set.

...but for now they are all assigned to helping me feel great about cpap.

[yaconsult]

If you search the forum, you can find threads where people have built "coolers" for their cpap system. One that I remember used a second cpap hose coiled around inside a big covered bucket that was filled with ice every night.

Me? I'm perfectly comfortable with the moist air coming out of my humidifier when set to "auto" and have no reason to mess with it.

[Perchas]

For years I was at the other end of the spectrum and thought I needed hot tropical temps and balmy seashore breezes from my CPAP. After a few years I realized it was just mind games I was just playing on myself (nothing wrong with that) and now I simply use normal humidifier settings... 4 on my PR ASV. By your use of exaggerated metaphors, I predict you'll get over the 'mountain air' phase eventually... if not, that's cool too.

If you search the forum, you can find threads where people have built "coolers" for their cpap system. One that I remember used a second cpap hose coiled around inside a big covered bucket that was filled with ice every night.

Me? I'm perfectly comfortable with the moist air coming out of my humidifier when set to "auto" and have no reason to mess with it.

The humidity of the air flow should be 35% at most, I have measured humidity of 70% when to operate the humidifier. this is very harmful to the lungs.
Imitate as possible to nature, the purest air is breathed in the mountain, not a machine, I have never understood those who buy heated hoses, it is unnatural.

There is too much economic interest in things convince us that only benefit the companies that sell and manufacture the CPAP.

Today is very hot in Madrid (Spain), will try to do tonight several measurements of temperature, humidity outside and inside. Features airflow recently put the deposit with Ice, awake at 04:00 hours before the ice melts and will make the measurements.

Sorry for my English, "Sain Google translator," is the culprit.

[Sheffey]

The humidity of the air flow should be 35% at most, I have measured humidity of 70% when to operate the humidifier. this is very harmful to the lungs.

Where do you get this information? How are you measuring this?

Ambient relative humidity is about 70% where I live. Due to air conditioning, my room humidity is about 50%.

At 35%, I think I would parch.

The average outdoor daily high (blue) and low (brown) relative humidity with percentile bands (inner bands from 25th to 75th percentile, outer bands from 10th to 90th percentile) near my home.

[palerider]

The humidity of the air flow should be 35% at most, I have measured humidity of 70% when to operate the humidifier. this is very harmful to the lungs.
Imitate as possible to nature, the purest air is breathed in the mountain, not a machine, I have never understood those who buy heated hoses, it is unnatural.

There is too much economic interest in things convince us that only benefit the companies that sell and manufacture the CPAP.

note to the reader: the above is pretty much all wrong.

[Perchas]

note to the reader: the above is pretty much all wrong.

Which would be ideal humidity and temperature in your opinion?

[palerider]

note to the reader: the above is pretty much all wrong.

Which would be ideal humidity and temperature in your opinion?

that is a stupid question, there is no "ideal" temperature and humidity.

people live in blazing, people live in the arctic, huge differences in temperature.

people live in dry deserts, people live in rainforests, huge difference in humidity.

[Sheffey]

Perchas

Will you answer at least one of my questions?

Perchas wrote:
The humidity of the air flow should be 35% at most, I have measured humidity of 70% when to operate the humidifier. this is very harmful to the lungs.

Where do you get this information?

[Perchas]

Perchas

Will you answer at least one of my questions?

Perchas wrote:
The humidity of the air flow should be 35% at most, I have measured humidity of 70% when to operate the humidifier. this is very harmful to the lungs.

Where do you get this information?

Percentage proper indoor humidity

According to the Environmental Protection Agency US (EPA), the correct indoor humidity level is in the range of 30 to 50 percent. The humidity inside a home should be properly adjusted so that it stays within these percentage levels. If the humidity level inside the house is high, but the level of external moisture is not, it opens a window for fresh air. Increases the humidity inside the house, if necessary, using a humidifier or vaporizer.

The normal activities of life in homes usually add enough moisture in the air to keep indoor humidity at the right level. These activities include cooking and washing clothes and dishes, or human respiration and perspiration, which should allow moisture is maintained at an appropriate level. If the percentage of humidity inside is too high, it is likely to notice it through condensation on the inside of the windows, or the growth of mold on the walls. If the humidity is too low, you could see a lot of static electricity in your clothes or carpet.
Effects of moisture unbalanced

If the percentage of humidity inside is not at the right level, you may also suffer the physical effects, and the house itself can have effects. If the level is too low, less than 30 percent, you may nosebleed, you have persistent respiratory problems or an infection that is caused by dryness of mucous membranes. While a high percentage of humidity above 50 percent, encourages mold growth and develops pests such as termites and cockroaches, too low a percentage generates cracks in the plaster and plasterboard, as well as the contraction of the floor wood and other wooden objects.

References

US Environmental Protection Agency: Watch your air: A Guide for previous air quality http://www.epa.gov/iaq/pubs/careforyourair.html
USA Today; The wrong moisture turns your house a nuisance; Feb. 2004 http://www.ehowenespanol.com/porcentaje ... fo_181159/

[Perchas]

that is a stupid question, there is no "ideal" temperature and humidity.

people live in blazing, people live in the arctic, huge differences in temperature.

people live in dry deserts, people live in rainforests, huge difference in humidity.

There are naive questions, tedious questions, ill-phrased questions, questions with inadequate self-criticism. But every question is a cry for understanding the world. There are no stupid questions.

I will not waste a second of my time to prove his theory wrong.

[palerider]

According to the Environmental Protection Agency US (EPA), the correct indoor humidity level is in the range of 30 to 50 percent.

thus making your earlier comment "The humidity of the air flow should be 35% at most, " wrong.

and you'll note, if you actually have a brain to do so with, the reasoning for not having more than 50% RH indoors: "encourages mold growth and develops pests such as termites and cockroaches" now, a reasonable and even remotely intelligent person would *NOT* take that to mean "this is very harmful to the lungs." as you said.

I've yet to hear *ONE* report of a person using a cpap humidifier developing termites and cockroaches in their lungs. if you know of any verified reports of cpap causing lung termites, please do let us know, perhaps things are different in your native country.