For Sale: Brand New Resmed AirSense 10 Autoset for Her $650

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For Sale: Brand New Resmed AirSense 10 Autoset for Her $650

Post by jawzz » Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:02 pm

I am selling a brand new Resmed AirSense 10 Autoset for Her apap machine. It comes in original Resmed box.

FAQ

Why am I selling? I always order supplies and machines once I'm eligible even if I don't need them. Thus, I have a couple machines and don't need this one.

Have I sold anything else on this board? Yes, I sold an ASV machine. If you scroll through my profile you can see.

Does the price include shipping? Yes, if you are in the US. I can ship international, but you cover shipping.

How will the transaction be handled? Paypal, it's safe and efficient.

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Post by Air Jordan » Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:08 pm

jawzz wrote:FAQ

Why am I selling? I always order supplies and machines once I'm eligible even if I don't need them. Thus, I have a couple machines and don't need this one.
Are you committing Medicare fraud or private insurance fraud?
Jordan

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Re: For Sale: Brand New Resmed AirSense 10 Autoset for Her $650

Post by jawzz » Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:36 pm

Air Jordan wrote:
jawzz wrote:FAQ

Why am I selling? I always order supplies and machines once I'm eligible even if I don't need them. Thus, I have a couple machines and don't need this one.
Are you committing Medicare fraud or private insurance fraud?
No.

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Re: For Sale: Brand New Resmed AirSense 10 Autoset for Her $650

Post by Gasper62 » Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:56 pm

Are question talkers mildly annoying ? Most definitely, yes.

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Post by BookemDano » Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:30 pm

Air Jordan wrote:
jawzz wrote:FAQ

Why am I selling? I always order supplies and machines once I'm eligible even if I don't need them. Thus, I have a couple machines and don't need this one.
Are you committing Medicare fraud or private insurance fraud?
Makes one wonder doesn't it!

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Post by dvejr » Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:52 pm

Air Jordan wrote: Are you committing Medicare fraud or private insurance fraud?
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Post by Cardsfan » Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:16 am

How is it fraud? If my insurance rules allow me to get a machine, and I pay my copay- I own it. I am allowed to sell my own property.

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Post by Thatgirl » Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:58 am

This would fall into the billing for unnecessary services realm of healthcare fraud. If you didn't use the CPAP at all, obviously you didn't need it, thus it was an unneccessary service that your insurance was billed for. Insurance companies have time spans when new equipment is covered, but almost all, if not all, also say that it be medically necessary as well.

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Post by Susie Kay » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:26 am

Thatgirl wrote:This would fall into the billing for unnecessary services realm of healthcare fraud. If you didn't use the CPAP at all, obviously you didn't need it, thus it was an unneccessary service that your insurance was billed for. Insurance companies have time spans when new equipment is covered, but almost all, if not all, also say that it be medically necessary as well.
+1

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Post by cathyf » Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:42 am

Thatgirl wrote:This would fall into the billing for unnecessary services realm of healthcare fraud. If you didn't use the CPAP at all, obviously you didn't need it, thus it was an unneccessary service that your insurance was billed for. Insurance companies have time spans when new equipment is covered, but almost all, if not all, also say that it be medically necessary as well.
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Post by Cardsfan » Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:50 am

If the OP has apnea, it is medically necessary. There is a big diff between insurance fraud, and going against your moral values.

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Post by jawzz » Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:49 pm

Thatgirl wrote:This would fall into the billing for unnecessary services realm of healthcare fraud. If you didn't use the CPAP at all, obviously you didn't need it, thus it was an unneccessary service that your insurance was billed for. Insurance companies have time spans when new equipment is covered, but almost all, if not all, also say that it be medically necessary as well.
It's virtually impossible to be eligible - as stated in my original post - for a cpap machine if it's medically unnecessary.

To become eligible my insurance company had to receive a recent sleep study, doctors notes and compliance data. Then, they had their doctors review everything and approve it. This took 6 months.

Insurance companies have set resupply schedules which give patients a buffer of extra equipment for safety reasons. Not following these schedules is dangerous and inefficient. I had a machine break once before and if I didn't have a spare I would have been in deep trouble.

Furthermore, it's recommended that machines be replaced as soon as the resupply schedule permits because they lose accuracy over time even if it's not visibly apparent.

Shortly after receiving this machine, regrettably, we found out that my epiglottis is covering 75% of my airway which means I can't use cpap until I have surgery.

Sadly, your post and the posts of others may dissuade someone who can't afford the full retail price of a cpap machine from considering this offer.

I hope this clarifies things.

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Post by dvejr » Tue Mar 29, 2016 2:06 pm

I'm unpersuaded. There's no provision in most insurance plans for an apnea sufferer to be provided 2 machines "in case one breaks". Anyway, the issue is not "they let me have one, so it's mine, so I can sell it."
My insurance company doesn't "let me" buy CPAP machines. With a prescription, and with no intent to divert the machines to others, I can buy as many CPAP machines as I wish, whenever I wish. What my insurance company limits is: who pays?
To induce your insurance company to pay part of the cost of a machine that you'll then divert to someone else is fraud. You can't do it with your pills, or your Doctor's visits either.
My insurance will pay for a sleep study, too, but that doesn't permit me to then send YOU to the clinic instead, and get a study paid for, all or in part, by my insurance.

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Post by dvejr » Tue Mar 29, 2016 2:09 pm

Cardsfan wrote:How is it fraud? If my insurance rules allow me to get a machine, and I pay my copay- I own it. I am allowed to sell my own property.
Got any leftover pain meds? You paid for that oxycontin; surely you can sell it on a street corner, right?

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Post by Cardsfan » Tue Mar 29, 2016 2:37 pm

Are you going to need the machine after your surgery? Or does that surgery cure your obstruction?

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